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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Betta Lines
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A valuable contribution. Congrats.The Stealth Fox said:
SolidSnakex
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Pazuzu9 said:
To be fair, karts are really fun in GT5. I don't think anyone really imagined that it'd turn out like that.
flyinpiranha
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tusken77 said:
How so? Where is this "community" you speak of? Some guy named xxXForzaSucksXxx has a car that you have too? How do you know how they received it? Is it labeled somewhere?
It doesn't undermine shit. You're speaking hyperbole, nonsense about how owning a virtual car by putting in an hour of time somehow has more 'worth' than a person who uses money. You both race in the car, skill will be what determines the winner.
Basically all you have to say is: "Complete strangers that I will most likely never come into contact with completely affect the way I play my game" ... and then I'd agree with you.
But what the hell is it going to matter if we're in an online race and we both have the same car? Are you going to tell every person in the lobby "Hey guys, I just want you to know that I earned this car by buying with in-game credits, thought everybody should know that".
I think that's hilarious. Will be awesome playing Cat and Mouse with GAFers and that plastered on the cars. Should be some great fun and great times.OrangeOak said:
Oh, are you angry it's not plastered with advertisements or something?
Personally I think the shadows and the smoke in GT5 are more offensive than anything somebody could draw on the cars.
Betta Lines
Member
They didn't? Karts are fun in real life. With reasonably accurate physics, why would it not be fun in the game?SolidSnakex said:
As someone that thought of themselves as more a purist, all I can say since playing FM3 is
1. Liveries are awesome - especially when you are participating in more organised race series
2. Rewind is a non-issue, it does not make people devolve into noobs, that is such a fallacy
3. The whole storefront idea is brilliantly executed and even I've put stuff on my storefront and made a few milllion credits
So there..
1. Liveries are awesome - especially when you are participating in more organised race series
2. Rewind is a non-issue, it does not make people devolve into noobs, that is such a fallacy
3. The whole storefront idea is brilliantly executed and even I've put stuff on my storefront and made a few milllion credits
So there..
SolidSnakex
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Pazuzu9 said:
I think that most just thought it would be a nice feature that you'd try out a few times and then go back to racing cars.
flyinpiranha
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Snubbers said:As someone that thought of themselves as more a purist, all I can say since playing FM3 is
1. Liveries are awesome - especially when you are participating in more organised race series
2. Rewind is a non-issue, it does not make people devolve into noobs, that is such a fallacy
3. The whole storefront idea is brilliantly executed and even I've put stuff on my storefront and made a few milllion credits
So there..
1. Nope, just dicks and chicks, nothing good comes of this
2. It makes every person that ever played Forza 3 a terrible person and racer
3. The storefront is akin to a porn site, just plastered with crap that offends my sensitive eyes.
flyinpiranha said:
You don't play with regular players? You don't have any kind of community within your driving games? Fair enough. You're not grasping what I'm saying about the sense of achievement, how its rewards are devalued, and how it undermines a core component of the game. There's no way I want that system in GT. You're fine with it in Forza. The simplest thing to say is we can agree to disagree.
SPEEDxNASTY
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crazy monkey
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Niks said:
in fm3 lol
tusken77 said:
I don't brag about that stuff with the people I play with. They can't see my garage, I can't see theirs. We're friends. Nobody gives a shit. We buy cars for people that don't have the money to buy the car we are using for the race, and give them away. We create tunes with extra PI added for people so they can compete. That's the sense of community that I've found in Forza, not ridiculous bragging rights.
Nobody really cares that you spent enough time in the game to add the bytes for some "expensive" car to your game save.
SPEEDxNASTY
Neo Member
Loads of videos like this are gonna pop-up soon, trolls are gonna have a real feast...
phosphor112
Banned
Can't wait to see someone fly off the chain and get a SRS BZNIS response going.flyinpiranha said:
crazy monkey said:
in fm3 lol
That is not ok with me...
I think that putting Nascar as a Special Event with basic mechanics introduction into GT 5 was brilliant idea. I would never thought that i will be interested in Nascar and that Nascar can actually be fun. Before that it was dull motorsport for me, but playing Nascar online is really fun.SolidSnakex said:
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And about people talking about visual consistency, both games lack in that department, its all about what You cant stand more.
GT 5 has low res particles [that are awesome if You can stand jaggies, especially when lit at night], low res shadows, and some upscaled tracks and Forza has crappy particles, crappy prebaked damage system, not accurate colorgrading, medicore shaders, lack of anizo, identical trees everywhere and lack of proper shadowing system.
I havent mentioned standard cars, because i havent bought any ugly ones and shaders really covers bad textures from the distance in gameplay - anyone who thinks otherwise is just trolling, they look great ingame.
vsSPEEDxNASTY said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbwGSTmhXK4
it's pretty much summarize the actual situation of this thread =D
flyinpiranha
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tusken77 said:
No, you're missing my point. "community" is only as strong as its members. If your friend bought the car with a token and raced with you would you look down on him?
I completely understand the sense of achievement. I finally saved up and bought that awesome F1 Ferrari in GT5 only to not be able to use it.
I honestly don't fathom how this "undermines" your game. If you race with regulars and are in a community what does it matter how they acquire their cars? The fact YOU earned the car is all that matters unless you really, really care about what other people think of you.
I'm not disagreeing with your view (well sort of) ... I just don't understand it. It sounds like elitism, like your way of acquiring it through "hard work" is more valued than somebody than bought it with tokens.
Let's say we're in this community. I'm in your racing club or whatever. In 2 weeks there is an organized "Car ____ Race" ... I get called away on business, I come back a week later and realize I won't be able to race because I haven't "earned" the car. I use tokens and race with my friends, everybody is happy ... or are you mad at me for the way I received my car?
If this "community" you are in is a good one the means of receiving the car shouldn't be your focus, enjoying time with the people in the group should be your focus.
EDIT: Duping. A ton of people did this in GT5 (wish I would have known about it earlier), so I take it your GT5 experience was completely ruined because others acquired cars in a way that you believe they didn't "earn it".
SPEEDxNASTY
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YouTube = biggest troll space EVER
antiquegamer
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I think those pink and purple pony car are awesome. It get my daughter who often roll her eyes every time I set up my wheel rig to play Forza interested in driving game. She now have new found love for cars that is not vw bug.
You know what even more annoying than fanboys and console warriors, people who think that theirs way of having fun is the only correct way. This is the reason why our hobby (video game) got so stagnant, and game like driving sim are reserve just for those who are doing it right.
You know what even more annoying than fanboys and console warriors, people who think that theirs way of having fun is the only correct way. This is the reason why our hobby (video game) got so stagnant, and game like driving sim are reserve just for those who are doing it right.
flyinpiranha
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offshore said:Well, you've only got yourself to blame for not duping it...
I duped every car over 3 million and glad I did.
Tell me about it! I bought it, went into A-spec and was like ... WTF? Googled online and like the 3rd post for some other shmuck was "should have duped it"
Which brings up a good point with my other conversation, did Duping ruin GT5? That's basically the same as buying it as the person didn't "earn" it through hard work. So I can only assume GT5 has been ruined because of this.
No, Polyphony's ridiculous credit system ruined GT5, which is why everyone was duping at will.flyinpiranha said:
Even now the credit system is broken. Sure, you can get easy money from the seasonals, but I think a lot of people would like to earn their credits in online races, and the credit and XP payout online is just pathetic.
I stopped doing offline races in GT5 ages ago and started exclusively racing online. At that point I was at Level 32.
Months later, and after finishing literally hundreds and hundreds of online races, I'm still at level 32 and still have very few credits in the context of GT's UCD's car prices. The system is totally broken.
And actually, I'm kind of sad that I didn't dupe the more expensive UCD cars now that they'll be patched with cockpit view.
flyinpiranha
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shinnn said:
Well, I'm packing my bags. That pretty much is a spot on explanation of everything. Kudos to him for his well thought out explanations and reasoning.
mentalfloss
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The only real advantage GT5 had over F3 (graphically) were the car models. Forza 4's car models look a hell of a lot better, but I don't know if they would trump GT5's models yet.
AgentChris
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So... this is true?Niks said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
AgentChris said:
The Porsche thing is true (due to EA being dickish about sub-licensing the rights to use Porsche cars), dunno about the rest.
funkystudent
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Microsoft where being dicks with the 360 Ferrari licence so EA decided to be dicks back.Combichristoffersen said:
seems far enough IMO and I wouldn't be shocked if they work something out down the road.
flyinpiranha
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AgentChris said:
Yep, every single last depressing morsel. I can't believe they didn't sacrifice framerate and consistency to add a track or two with some weather. Idiots.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It's really common for regulars in the Forza community to gift cars, setups, etc to other players all the time. And yes, these are guys who are genuinely interested in racing and not just making paint jobs.tusken77 said:
flyinpiranha said:
What kind of failed logic is that? Lol.
Who says they need to sacrifice any frame rate consistency to get the said features in? All they have to do is drop some of the graphical details, texture quality or whatever. Perhaps they thought better visuals were more important than added features.
GTP_Daverytimes
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flyinpiranha said:
Forget weather, they should have atleast put one track with a wet surface.