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TUROK · Oct 9, 2011

Can someone replicate this in Forza?

rvy · Oct 9, 2011

Ah, FFS! It's back! Kill it with fire.

They won't fix it with Spec II. Feels bad, man.

iceatcs · Oct 9, 2011

Angst said:
Same here. No 360 though and I would buy one if I could use the wheel I have, but I can't so that's MS' loss.

Same, I have played F4 demo with pad only. It's a good game but I won't buy it because I rather play it further with wheel.
My g25 wheel is enough, I suppose I'm out until whenever they are going to support these missing support wheels.

Sydle · Oct 9, 2011

^^^ That looks awful. Why would you want someone to replicate it?

shinnn · Oct 9, 2011

Dibbz said:
Soft shadows are not the same as low res shadows.

ops... shame that my GT5 version is broken. Shame I can't buy the "GT5 special GAF gif edition".

anyone wanna discuss hood reflections? pretty sure someone will say that it's not bad in GT5 lol

Xanadu · Oct 9, 2011

Paco said:
^^^ That looks awful. Why would you want someone to replicate it?

lol

soundscream · Oct 9, 2011

TUROK said:
Can someone replicate this in Forza?

Ill need to find my T-Square

Eiscafe · Oct 9, 2011

That looks very good, besides the jaggies around the car. That is one of GT5's negative parts.

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

I can't wait for October 11th. Once someones find a glaring visual defect in Forza, it's all over.

In the mean time the Flopza fans can have fun with their Micromachines models and saturday morning cartoon graphics.

Eiscafe · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
I can't wait for October 11th. Once someones find a glaring visual defect in Forza, it's all over.

Europeans have to wait for October 14th. -.-

Wazzim said:
Why do you keep typing 'booth' instead of 'both'. Is it some kind of joke?

I don't know, browser lag? xD

Wazzim · Oct 9, 2011

Eiscafe said:
I have the same feeling but i will spend my time with booth games. I am a photographer and spend hours only in the photo mode.

Why do you keep typing 'booth' instead of 'both'. Is it some kind of joke?

The Stealth Fox said:
I can't wait for October 11th. Once someones find a glaring visual defect in Forza, it's all over.

In the mean time the Flopza fans can have fun with their Micromachines models and saturday morning cartoon graphics.

You might be a Stealth Fox but you sure ain't a Stealth Troll.

Metalmurphy · Oct 9, 2011

shinnn said:
[]http://www.abload.de/img/201110091548015097fy.jpg[/IMG]
[]http://www.abload.de/img/2011100915474948q7ww.jpg[/IMG]
[]http://www.abload.de/img/2011100915473045f7mw.jpg[/IMG]

ops... shame that my GT5 version is broken. Shame I can't buy the "GT5 special GAF gif edition".
[]http://www.abload.de/img/2011100915444237v72b.jpg[/IMG]
[]http://www.abload.de/img/201110091534543437mb.jpg[/IMG]

anyone wanna discuss hood reflections? pretty sure someone will say that it's not bad in GT5 lol

Wait... u actually think those shadows look bad? oO

rvy · Oct 9, 2011

Wazzim said:
Why do you keep typing 'booth' instead of 'both'. Is it some kind of joke?

Booths are cool. Booth babes are cooler.

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

Metalmurphy said:
Wait... u actually think those shadows look bad? oO

He's blind. He knows he's wrong so he has to pick on the awful alpha effects.

shinnn · Oct 9, 2011

Eiscafe said:
I have the same feeling but i will spend my time with booth games. I am a photographer and spend hours only in the photo mode.

At least in one game you don't need to watch replays to access photomode, neither dodge cubic shadows, smoke, rain and avoid 80% of car list and some tracks =p

CouchMaster · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
"NIGHT RACING DOES NOT ADD ANYTHING"

I knew you were being sarcastic, but I just needed a reason to post that gif again.

soundscream · Oct 9, 2011

shinnn said:

iceatcs · Oct 9, 2011

I love sharp shadow, hate so much the hazy shadow (aka GTA4) is worse lighting method of all.

I wish GT5 should have upper the shadow resolution more and fix the alpha effects.

Windom Earle · Oct 9, 2011

soundscream said:

Well played. Yeah, this effect is quite pathetic and shouldn't be in the game.

Eiscafe · Oct 9, 2011

shinnn said:
At least in one game you don't need to watch replays to access photomode, neither dodge cubic shadows, smoke, rain and avoid 80% of car list and some tracks =p

Haha, i know this problem very well.

Theonik · Oct 9, 2011

shinnn said:
real sound bitches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CSYSXiDa1Y

dreamland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqwbcIY96Vo

edit:

low res trees can't reproduce high res shadows. lol.

The GT5 video you posted is dubbed with real sound by the uploader btw.

Xanadu · Oct 9, 2011

Theonik said:
The GT5 video you posted is dubbed with real sound by the uploader btw.

that was the point

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

The idea that you have to avoid 80% of the cars to show off GT5's great visuals is a load of horse shit.

i nerini del buio · Oct 9, 2011

Paco said:
^^^ That looks awful. Why would you want someone to replicate it?

in gif it looks good though!

phosphor112 · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
The idea that you have to avoid 80% of the cars to show off GT5's great visuals is a load of horse shit.

The game still has 200+ cars that exceed the quality of what Forza has. It's people like you that like to dwell on the whole "80%" thing.

Eiscafe · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
The idea that you have to avoid 80% of the cars to show off GT5's great visuals is a load of horse shit.

Some standard cars looking great:

and some......not so good:

Theonik · Oct 9, 2011

Xanadu said:
that was the point

Which is what? That Forza doesn't sound real either? Or that you'll find people dubbing Forza as well.

iceatcs · Oct 9, 2011

I wish Polyphony allow these outsources for model-work like Turn 10 done lot of them.

We might have more GT5 standard cars if they do.

get2sammyb · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
The idea that you have to avoid 80% of the cars to show off GT5's great visuals is a load of horse shit.

I would agree with you -- if the game only had like 100 cars in it. I almost feel like people linger on the statistics too much. Things could always be better, but would people have preferred they entirely leave the standard cars out. Would that have made it a better game?

You can still get a full experience with the premium models that are included.

Polyphony · Oct 9, 2011

Who needs racing when you can park your car under a tree and do burnouts!

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

get2sammyb said:
I would agree with you -- if the game only had like 100 cars in it. I almost feel like people linger on the statistics too much. Things could always be better, but would people have preferred they entirely leave the standard cars out. Would that have made it a better game?

You can still get a full experience with the premium models that are included.

I'm arguing that all standards were not created equal.

GTP_Daverytimes · Oct 9, 2011

Risk Breaker said:
Dat fog

The Nurburgring is also like that, the only track that i have seen so far in Forza 4 with a respectable draw distance is the Alps.

Betta Lines · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
I'm arguing that all standards were not created equal.

Nor were the Premiums, quite frankly.

statham · Oct 9, 2011

phosphor112 said:
The game still has 200+ cars that exceed the quality of what Forza has. It's people like you that like to dwell on the whole "80%" thing.

dwelling can be fun, forza 4 has 500 cars that look better then 80% of GT5 cars.

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

Pazuzu9 said:
Nor were the Premiums, quite frankly.

All the premiums though IMO are the best looking cars on consoles.

phosphor112 · Oct 9, 2011

statham said:
dwelling can be fun, forza 4 has 500 cars that look better then 80% of GT5 cars.

Forza 4 has 500 cars that look better than 100% of GT4/PSP cars. Not 80% of GT5 cars. =]

Majanew · Oct 9, 2011

GT5 looks great in a lot of places and bad in others. It's more of a mixed bag to me. While GT5 does some things better than Forza, Forza just seems more consistent. I haven't even studied FM4 demo's graphics too much...I'm frakkin' addicted to Rivals mode in the demo.

phosphor112 said:
Forza 4 has 500 cars that look better than 100% of GT4/PSP cars. Not 80% of GT5 cars. =]

80% of GT5 cars are last-gen cars.

amar212 · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
All the premiums though IMO are the best looking cars on consoles.

Not just on consoles to be honest..

Sporran · Oct 9, 2011

TUROK said:
Can someone replicate this in Forza?

We all know this is one of the warts of GT5 but what still bugs me is how PD during the dev thought this was acceptable.

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

amar212 said:
Not just on consoles to be honest..

Yeah, I just didn't want some PC gaffer jumping in with some screenshots of some WIP game I've never heard of.

The premiums are unmatched, even if some of them are more detailed than others.

Theonik · Oct 9, 2011

statham said:
dwelling can be fun, forza 4 has 500 cars that look better then 80% of GT5 cars.

Well, it's clearly a quantity vs quality question, except both games seem to lack both in different areas, for the sake of following the ridiculousness of this thread let's try this:
let's say that Forza 4 quality cars are 1. They are at least twice (100% more) as good as GT4/standard cars on Gt5 so let's say they count as 0.5. Then let's say that Gt5 premium cars are 50% better than forza cars so they count as 1.5.
Forza 4 = 500*1 = 500
GT5 = 200*1.5 + 800*0.5 = 700
In this silly experiment GT5 obviously is better. Now this shows how one could spin this argument either way with the most ridiculous excuses.

I'm obviously joking here, don't take this seriously

eso76 · Oct 9, 2011

GTP_Daverytimes said:
The Nurburgring is also like that, the only track that i have seen so far in Forza 4 with a respectable draw distance is the Alps.

Except that's not 'fog'. That's haze, and it's supposed to be there. It doesn't hide draw in or pop up, it's Leonardo da Vinci's aerial perspective.

Metalmurphy · Oct 9, 2011

Sporran said:
We all know this is one of the warts of GT5 but what still bugs me is how PD during the dev thought this was acceptable.

It's not something they could work around. It's a PS3 limitation.

phosphor112 · Oct 9, 2011

eso76 said:
Except that's not 'fog'. That's haze, and it's supposed to be there. It doesn't hide draw in or pop up, it's Leonardo da Vinci's aerial perspective.

Even in the most humid of days, IMS has NEVER been that hazy.

Fact.

SolidSnakex · Oct 9, 2011

Sporran said:
We all know this is one of the warts of GT5 but what still bugs me is how PD during the dev thought this was acceptable.

The PS3 isn't particularly good at alpha effects. They would have to heavily reduce the effect in order to avoid it. Just take look at what Codemasters had to do with F1

360

PS3

Sporran · Oct 9, 2011

Metalmurphy said:
It's not something they could work around. It's a PS3 limitation.

limitation in what, am interested now. I know burnout paradise shows it a little and i mean a little but then no rain?

GTP_Daverytimes · Oct 9, 2011

Sporran said:
limitation in what, am interested now. I know burnout paradise shows it a little and i mean a little but then no rain?

Look above you sunshine, it's called hardware limitation. If anything Turn 10 should be the ones providing better smoke effects but they choose not to.

The Stealth Fox · Oct 9, 2011

You know, I'd definitely be up for Polyphony giving us an option to tone down/remove the heavy smoke effects so the problem goes away.

Mascot · Oct 9, 2011

The Stealth Fox said:
I can't wait for October 11th. Once someones find a glaring visual defect in Forza, it's all over.

In the mean time the Flopza fans can have fun with their Micromachines models and saturday morning cartoon graphics.

Jesus Christ...

Ploid 3.0 · Oct 9, 2011

YES! He won.

Right as I lost control.

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