SniperHunter
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damn! I need to buy this game
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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drugstore_cowboy
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Got one of those for the Tokyo street circuit?
SniperHunter
Banned
now that's a good patch right there! take note other developers
looks they didn't do one for Tokyo street circuit
SunhiLegend
Member
The framerate still drops on occasion, especially when you add weather and 15 other cars, but for the most part it's smooth.
During time trails the game runs at a solid 60fps, I haven't run a time trail yet where I've noticed any drop in framerate.
Yeah, GT5 looks better in screen caps, but which is the better game?
Metalmurphy
Member
lol
60 seconds DIY test:
just go to arcade mode, pick that track, pick the zonda, and in the very first turn watch the framerate drop. watch that wired fence on the left side tear away with joy
this patch makes it run much better optimized, but still far from perfect.
Also, v2.03 was out like what? 2012??
day 1 I got the game (that was 2010, not 2012) and run it, it run like in the left window, not like in the right
32fp HDR + ton of work on shaders and colours of cars. Each color of car is represented as in real life. Mclaren orange is unique color and Polyphony has some awesome artists that recreate proprieties of color under several lighting conditions.
This is real difference why some of cars in forza do look like made out of plastic. This is also why pCars still has problems with how cars looks even when they use more polys and better iq where assetto corsa nailed it so early in developement.
eso76
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Tutomos
Member
The one that the pros are playing.
Metalmurphy
Member
60 seconds DIY test:
just go to arcade mode, pick that track, pick the zonda, and in the very first turn watch the framerate drop. watch that wired fence on the left side tear away with joy
this patch makes it run much better optimized, but still far from perfect.
Also, v2.03 was out like what? 2012??
day 1 I got the game (that was 2010, not 2012) and run it, it run like in the left window, not like in the right
Improvements were constant, didn't' happen just in 2.03.
Biggest one was Spec 2.0, October 2011.
Still as he said there are still problems like in his example and i can confirm it. It is mostly at start of the race when you see a lot of cars in front of you.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
Hey can forza do split screen multiplayer 3d on ONE console. Effectively rendering a scene 4 times.
Didn't think so.
Forza fans have the inferior product. Forza fills in the gaps of GT. They exist only because of GT.
Didn't think so.
Forza fans have the inferior product. Forza fills in the gaps of GT. They exist only because of GT.
day one it run like the left window and in cases worse.
still even today, do the test drugstore cowboy asks about and tell me if it still needs improving or not.
I dont have fraps installed in my eyes, but its bloody very easy to spot.
At 60fps? With no screen tearing? Wow, that IS impressive.
brotkasten
Member
While this was really well done, the cars don't really look the same, except for the AE86 Shigeno edition. But I guess GT doesn't need car mods.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Its definitely one of the better looking standard models:
Red Chocobo
Banned
GT5.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, maybe you need to manually favorite all of them
Its been quite a while since i've played GT5, i just remembered that favorited cars would show up in arcade mode. Kinda strange that they havnt added the possibility to view your garage cars in Arcade mode, i'm not sure why they havnt done that yet. I'm not programmer myself, but it doesnt sound like a hard thing to add at least.Its definitely one of the better looking standard models:
the car only needs about 4 polygons to look good, bloody jap box
long new york from forza 1 hopefully comes back in 5
brotkasten
Member
I've only played Forza 2 and 3, but if we're talking about the same NY track from those two games, then good riddance.
Diablohead
Member
Forza 2 onwards only uses the short, it's like comparing autumn ring mini to the full course in gt 1 in terms of what is missing from the full track, aka quite a bit.
Lion Heart
Banned
Nah, I think it will be tame since they are on different consoles. GT on PS4 vs Forza on 720, now that will be a blood bath.
SolidSnakex
Member
GT has basically reached a point where it's near impossible for them to bring back all the courses that fans want while also including a good variety of new courses. That's why i've pretty much given up on ever seeing Grindelwald or Red Rock Valley in the series again. :/
PS3 vs 720.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
http://www.gtplanet.net/24-new-track-logos-discovered-on-gran-turismo-5-website/
There is still hope.
Speaking of old tracks which GT5 fantasy tracks would you like to see in GT6?
Personally I want Eiger, Cape Ring and Madrid to return. If I had to pick one it would be Eiger for the drift replays.
Honestly as i love some original tracks i think it would be better if they would simply do for each new game new tracks.
Let nostalgia be nostalgia. If they would include only remakes of old tracks we would never see tracks like El Capitain.
Lion Heart
Banned
I meant they will be on different generations so its not as exciting. When both release a next gen game then shit will hit the fan. Of course Forza 720 will look better than GT6 on PS3, technically speaking.
No AO.
This is Blender's AO which is ray traced and probably a lot more advanced than what current games do, but even on current consoles AO is great to have. I hope it will be used more in the next gen, I mean look at what it does to a fucking white box on a white plane!
I used enviroment lighting in the first pic because otherwise shadows would be 100% dark.
What if GT still looks better
Forza 2 was sort of uglier than GT4. The lighting was just, odd... Cars where also horribly low res with polygonal edges on the bonnet clearly visible from roof view.
SolidSnakex
Member
I'd expect to see every track that they actually built for GT5 to return in GT6. Others could be dropped, touched up or rebuilt to look more like they belong alongside those other tracks.
I just think some of the track designs are too good to drop completely. Grindelwald and RRV both have really good designs (plus Grindelwald would look gorgeous with modern visuals). If they make some tracks that just aren't that great, like Seoul, then dropping them isn't too much of a deal. It's just sad to see great track designs go one and done with the series.
SniperHunter
Banned
they should outsource asset development like Quantic Dream does it, then polish those outsourced assets
No AO.
This is Blender's AO which is ray traced and probably a lot more advanced than what current games do, but even on current consoles AO is great to have. I hope it will be used more in the next gen, I mean look at what it does to a fucking white box on a white plane!
I used enviroment lighting in the first pic because otherwise shadows would be 100% dark.
What if GT still looks better
Forza 2 was sort of uglier than GT4. The lighting was just, odd... Cars where also horribly low res with polygonal edges on the bonnet clearly visible from roof view.
Also remember Forza 2 was Turn 10's first next gen game. Growing pains in getting a 60fps HD racer right on the first try.
Some of those tracks seemed rushed too, besides the models. New York looked the worst.
As of New York i don't get why people are excited about it. It is shitty city track in both games.
Why would they need to do that ?
This gen alone they pushed almost 20mln coppies with team of 150 people and they deliver games that have more content than any racing game.
GT6 if it is PS3 game will probably be like GT3-GT4 situation where GT4 delivered 5x content of GT3
Why would they need to do that ?
This gen alone they pushed almost 20mln coppies with team of 150 people and they deliver games that have more content than any racing game.
GT6 if it is PS3 game will probably be like GT3-GT4 situation where GT4 delivered 5x content of GT3
SunhiLegend
Member
I agree, something I've wanted since GT3.
I've been using the save editor for GT5 solely for this reason, the secret menu lets you choose what cars the ai drive during an arcade race.
AO would help but the way the light hits the mirrors doesn't match the rest of the car either.
hahahahahaha!!!
What do you think this is? Are you mental?
Theres something odd about the mountains.. they look flat? are they 2d textures?
Metalmurphy
Member
No.
Chance Hale
Member
GT5 was already massive, how will I ever get through all that content ;-; Still hope it's cross gen so PD can truly go crazy but I suppose we'll see soon enough.
SolidSnakex
Member
TGS 2010
http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-tgs-2010-breakout-session-full-details/
Lucas Ordonez (first GT Academy winner)
http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-6-rumored-to-include-large-number-of-tracks/
You need an HD capture card or a modded console to take direct-feed screenshots.
Here's a couple of direct-feed shots by wax free vanilla.
GT doesn't swap models between in-game and replay mode, so I suspect the difference would be even bigger if you compare GT in-game models to Forza's.
next-gen GT + SPA + full F1 grid = am cry T_T
Betrayer of hope
Banned
I know this has been said many a time but Polyphony car models and their lighting system just plain embarasses Turn 10. And when PD put their mind to a track like the ring or spa or special stage 7 you start to wonder how do they do it with less than 200 employees?