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Forza Motorsport 3 - October 2009 release (ignore the OP at your peril)

Drastic

Member
Diablohead said:
If you want to play on a forza 2 save which was started up with DLC installed, remember you will need to download it all again before you can play your save.

For the career, right?
 
Drastic said:
For the career, right?
For it all, the game will try to load and give a message. I found this out the hard way at uni a while ago and it's one of the reasons why I had to start the game again.
 
Have been following the game religiously and I am pretty sure if the answer to my query but want to check. So is the Fanatec Wheel my only option if I want the full clutch/gearstick experience or is there some ghetto option I am unaware of?
 

G Rom

Member
So what's up with all the big sites having copies but almost doing no (HD) videos ?
Even though I've played the final game three weeks ago, I'm still starving for more videos !:lol
Seriously, if I had the game right now, I'd do tons of videos !


I guess the game is so awesome that they don't have time to do videos anymore ! :lol
 

Brakara

Member
sionyboy said:
Very true, just so used to playing the demo now I can't imagine the full game being different! :lol

Demos on the 360 can't save, which is why it's that way. It's the same issue with the Shift demo.
 

FrankT

Member
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html

Disc 2 is broken up into four packs that act like downloadable content. If it's installed on your hard drive, then the game reads it and adds in the content seamlessly. If not, then you won't see these cars or tracks in your game and can't use them in online multiplayer.

So, this is the first instance that I know of MS has allowed this to work like this. All games with multiple discs going forward should work this way imo. I hope this is exactly what they start allowing for both first party and third party.

I should rephrase this to say that for example SO4 should work this way. If you can install all 4 discs then you should be able to play everything off the first discs. I hope they allow this going forward for games like FFXIII as well as many others.


Anyhow, none too worried about the install size as I install everything and hopefully it helps the load times out some.
 

Yoritomo

Member
I'm really confused about the LCE now. The list of vehicles in the American Car pack lists the Corvette ZR-1. Is this the 1990 ZR1?

I'm more than willing to buy the LCE if it's the only way to get the ZR1 in game. I'm just trying to figure out if I need to buy the LCE to get the 2009 C6 ZR1.
 

Yoritomo

Member
Nevermind it is the 1990 as the Corvette GS is on disc 2, since they're both a C4 I'd imagine it's the 1990 ZR1.

That still makes me wonder if the only way to get the C6 ZR1 is by buying the LCE.
 

blanky

Member
Yoritomo said:
I'm really confused about the LCE now. The list of vehicles in the American Car pack lists the Corvette ZR-1. Is this the 1990 ZR1?

I'm more than willing to buy the LCE if it's the only way to get the ZR1 in game. I'm just trying to figure out if I need to buy the LCE to get the 2009 C6 ZR1.

It probably is the '90 since officially the '09 ZR1 is in the LCE pack which can only be obtained through a code available in the LCE. Had me wondering for a while but I'm not taking my chances, it's not that expensive and I really really like the current gen of Corvette's.

Also the presence of Fuji, Positano and Nür don't really surprise me. All those courses are four times as big as the normal ones and I think the tracks are most visibly updated compared to FM2. Doesn't really matter to me anyway tbh since I got the 120 for christmas last year.

All I hope is that my rennsport arrives in time.
 

DuckRacer

Member
Jtyettis said:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html



So, this is the first instance that I know of MS has allowed this to work like this. All games with multiple discs going forward should work this way imo. I hope this is exactly what they start allowing for both first party and third party.

Anyhow, none too worried about the install size as I install everything and hopefully it helps the load times out some.
Actually, this isn't any different than how the second disc of the platinum hits version of Mass Effect lets you install Bringing Down the Sky, an NXE theme and gamerpics.
 

Yoritomo

Member
blanky said:
It probably is the '90 since officially the '09 ZR1 is in the LCE pack which can only be obtained through a code available in the LCE. Had me wondering for a while but I'm not taking my chances, it's not that expensive and I really really like the current gen of Corvette's.

Also the presence of Fuji, Positano and Nür don't really surprise me. All those courses are four times as big as the normal ones and I think the tracks are most visibly updated compared to FM2. Doesn't really matter to me anyway tbh since I got the 120 for christmas last year.

All I hope is that my rennsport arrives in time.

The odd thing is that I keep getting the impression that the LCE cars are in the normal game but gifted from either winning particular races or attaining a particular level within the game.

Basically if Che says the ONLY way to get the C6 ZR1 is by buying the LCE I'll suck up my gamespot hate and preorder it.
 
Yoritomo said:
Nevermind it is the 1990 as the Corvette GS is on disc 2, since they're both a C4 I'd imagine it's the 1990 ZR1.

That still makes me wonder if the only way to get the C6 ZR1 is by buying the LCE.
If like forza 2, us EU people had a LE with 3 cars, for others without the LE including americans you had to either buy from other users on the auction house or win one from turn 10 in some way or another.
 

Yoritomo

Member
Diablohead said:
If like forza 2, us EU people had a LE with 3 cars, for others without the LE including americans you had to either buy from other users on the auction house or win one from turn 10 in some way or another.

That seems reasonable.
 
Jtyettis said:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html



So, this is the first instance that I know of MS has allowed this to work like this. All games with multiple discs going forward should work this way imo. I hope this is exactly what they start allowing for both first party and third party.

Anyhow, none too worried about the install size as I install everything and hopefully it helps the load times out some.

How can arcade owners access 2nd disc content?
 
MirageDwarf said:
How can arcade owners access 2nd disc content?
It's hard to read these few lines, isn't it?
If it's installed on your hard drive, then the game reads it and adds in the content seamlessly. If not, then you won't see these cars or tracks in your game and can't use them in online multiplayer.
 
See said:
Yay! I just bought a wheel! Waiting for it to get delivered sometime next week! Excited!

So... Top 1% with controller is something special eh? With no assists plus manual? Hmm... that makes me feel good! Actually come to think if it... I havn't raced with any assists at all in the demo :O

I reckon Che should give out gift cars for those people... since top 1% is apparently too huge :p

I always thought it was much easier to race with controller than wheel.
 

chespace

It's not actually trolling if you don't admit it
Jube3 said:
I damn near hugged my mail man today :lol

Congrats. Now let's chat about some exclusive livery ideas. You too, m0dus. :lol

One note about the 2nd disc install: You don't have to install all of it since it is broken up into packs on the disc. You can go back and install the rest of the content at any time.
 
MirageDwarf said:
How can arcade owners access 2nd disc content?

Buy a harddrive? They are $25-30 on eBay for 20gb last I see. 2nd disc are bonus DLC just like the Forza 2 Platinum Hit which also require installation to harddrive.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
I want to know how the 2 DVDs are enclosed in the case. Is it like ODST, where one DVD is on a flap thing that can be turned over to reveal the second DVD?
 

Haunted

Member
chespace said:
It's trees in the foreground.

IGN takes a look at disc 2 of FM3.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html
:lol Arcade owners am cry, luckily I don't care about those peasants. I like it, HDD installs are the best way to get around size limitations without compromising quantity or quality of the content.

Mandatory installs are getting console gaming just one step closer to PC gaming. :D



Played the demo for the first time today, very impressed with the environment and comfortable rewind function. Driving feels fine, would've liked a bit more oomph to contact, spins and crashes (coming from Shift which does all these well), but it's still fine.

By far the best part was the replay mode, though. A shitton of cameras (helicopter cam!) and the ability to choose which car the camera follows. Codemasters and EA with their shitty replay options left in the fucking dust.
 

commedieu

Banned
Haunted said:
:lol Arcade owners am cry, luckily I don't care about those peasants. I like it, HDD installs are the best way to get around size limitations without compromising quantity or quality of the content.

Mandatory installs are getting console gaming just one step closer to PC gaming. :D



Played the demo for the first time today, very impressed with the environment and comfortable rewind function. Driving feels fine, would've liked a bit more oomph to contact, spins and crashes (coming from Shift which does all these well), but it's still fine.

By far the best part was the replay mode, though. A shitton of cameras (helicopter cam!) and the ability to choose which car the camera follows. Codemasters and EA with their shitty replay options left in the fucking dust.


The install isn't mandatory, but it lets you pick & choose parts of disc2 to install. In case you only have the 512mb memory card.
 

Haunted

Member
commedieu said:
The install isn't mandatory, but it lets you pick & choose parts of disc2 to install. In case you only have the 512mb memory card.
Well, looking at the car and track (Nordschleife!) list on disc 2, I consider it pretty much mandatory in practice. Hell, I wish it was completely mandatory, it would send the better message.
 

chespace

It's not actually trolling if you don't admit it
You could think of the 2nd disc as a year's worth of DLC. If you want Nurb, then you should install it. Likewise with any of the car packs in there. We try to make it as flexible as possible for those who are tight on HDD space. But the reality is, we've got a lot of content in the box and even more (tons more) coming down the pipe via DLC. If you don't have some sort of storage solution in this age of digital distribution, Forza 3 on 10/27 won't be the last of your worries.
 
Haunted said:
(Nordschleife!)
Fuck the ring. I'm so sick of playing that track in every racing game... and sick of everyone that wants to play it online, all the time.

I hope I run into hundreds of users with no HDD. :lol
 

commedieu

Banned
chespace said:
You could think of the 2nd disc as a year's worth of DLC. If you want Nurb, then you should install it. Likewise with any of the car packs in there. We try to make it as flexible as possible for those who are tight on HDD space. But the reality is, we've got a lot of content in the box and even more (tons more) coming down the pipe via DLC. If you don't have some sort of storage solution in this age of digital distribution, Forza 3 on 10/27 won't be the last of your worries.

Do you have to install Rally di Positano, Fujimi Kaido &Nordschleife all together (730mb)? Or can you just install tracks individually?
 

shinnn

Member
so.. no HD = no nurb, no fujimi kaido and no amalfi coast?

I think that it's a terrible choice =\

some new (?) pics

fm3_22b_3.jpg

fm3_135i_5.jpg

fm3_acura_integra_typer_4.jpg

fm3_honda_rsx_1.jpg


http://www.planete-gt.com/2009/10/02/forza-motorsport-3-encore-des-images-2/
 

Senua

Member
Psychotext said:
Fuck the ring. I'm so sick of playing that track in every racing game... and sick of everyone that wants to play it online, all the time.

I hope I run into hundreds of users with no HDD. :lol
the ring is the best track ever thats why..well maybe spa is better
 

Blimblim

The Inside Track
While I'm not allowed yet to do some videos (5 more days) I've got the review build of the game since a few days. I strongly disliked both previous Forza games so I wasn't expecting too much for F3. Well, I was wrong. This game is awesome. I just had some totally crazy intense downhill duels on Fujimi Kaido with an ultra buffed up Honda NSX-R, and all I can say is wow. I have quite a few reservations about that game's graphics (mostly lighting) thay I'll go into more details when the embargo is up, but in terms of gameplay Turn 10 totally nailed it.
And with this, I'll shut up until October 8.
 

Haunted

Member
Psychotext said:
Fuck the ring. I'm so sick of playing that track in every racing game... and sick of everyone that wants to play it online, all the time.

I hope I run into hundreds of users with no HDD. :lol
Don't diss the legend, man!

chespace said:
You could think of the 2nd disc as a year's worth of DLC. If you want Nurb, then you should install it. Likewise with any of the car packs in there.
I'm pretty sure everyone without an HDD will just think of the second disc as part of the retail content they won't get to experience. :p

chespace said:
We try to make it as flexible as possible for those who are tight on HDD space. But the reality is, we've got a lot of content in the box and even more (tons more) coming down the pipe via DLC. If you don't have some sort of storage solution in this age of digital distribution, Forza 3 on 10/27 won't be the last of your worries.
Pretty much. Turn 10 is not at fault here.

Having too much content to fit on one DVD is a positive, not a negative in my book. :D
 

Jube3

Member
chespace said:
Congrats. Now let's chat about some exclusive livery ideas. You too, m0dus. :lol

One note about the 2nd disc install: You don't have to install all of it since it is broken up into packs on the disc. You can go back and install the rest of the content at any time.

Yea anytime, Ive been working with it today for a while now. Just finished my first car, nothing fancy just getting into the groove again with layers.
 
Haunted said:
I'm pretty sure everyone without an HDD will just think of the second disc as part of the retail content they won't get to experience. :p

Yeah. Funny thing is changing a method of delivery would change this perspective completely. Should have put as free DLC on marketplace.
 

commedieu

Banned
Haunted said:
Having too much content to fit on one DVD is a positive, not a negative in my book. :D

Does the base core content of a game being divided over 2xDVD's qualify as too much content though? Couldn't really call it a negative or a positive thing, just space.
 

bran

Member
Psychotext said:
Fuck the ring. I'm so sick of playing that track in every racing game... and sick of everyone that wants to play it online, all the time.

I hope I run into hundreds of users with no HDD. :lol

Is your name Jeremy Clarkson and/or can you not clock 10:00, thus the hate?
 

FrankT

Member
Haunted said:
:lol Arcade owners am cry, luckily I don't care about those peasants. I like it, HDD installs are the best way to get around size limitations without compromising quantity or quality of the content.

Mandatory installs are getting console gaming just one step closer to PC gaming. :D

Agreed, HDD all the way.
 
Blimblim said:
While I'm not allowed yet to do some videos (5 more days) I've got the review build of the game since a few days. I strongly disliked both previous Forza games so I wasn't expecting too much for F3. Well, I was wrong. This game is awesome. I just had some totally crazy intense downhill duels on Fujimi Kaido with an ultra buffed up Honda NSX-R, and all I can say is wow. I have quite a few reservations about that game's graphics (mostly lighting) thay I'll go into more details when the embargo is up, but in terms of gameplay Turn 10 totally nailed it.
And with this, I'll shut up until October 8.

As someone who thoroughly enjoyed the previous iterations of the franchise, this may not be good news. What didn't you like about Forza 1 and 2 (other than visuals, I assume)?
 
chespace said:
If you don't have some sort of storage solution in this age of digital distribution, Forza 3 on 10/27 won't be the last of your worries.
Pssst, tell Microsoft to lower the price on their fricken HDDs. Most of my friends are working with like 12GB :(
 

Blimblim

The Inside Track
professor_t said:
As someone who thoroughly enjoyed the previous iterations of the franchise, this may not be good news. What didn't you like about Forza 1 and 2 (other than visuals, I assume)?
Don't worry, you'll still love F3. They did the right thing by putting all the stuff that make the game good for me to be optional for hardcore racing guys like you. Stuff like quick upgrades (thank god for that!), rewinds, you name it. Also the sense of actually getting better and doing something more than just doing laps after laps is so much better.
 

NeoGIF

Member
Blimblim said:
While I'm not allowed yet to do some videos (5 more days) I've got the review build of the game since a few days. I strongly disliked both previous Forza games so I wasn't expecting too much for F3. Well, I was wrong. This game is awesome. I just had some totally crazy intense downhill duels on Fujimi Kaido with an ultra buffed up Honda NSX-R, and all I can say is wow. I have quite a few reservations about that game's graphics (mostly lighting) thay I'll go into more details when the embargo is up, but in terms of gameplay Turn 10 totally nailed it.
And with this, I'll shut up until October 8.

Oh, the agony after just reading your post. The wait just got a little harder. :lol
 

blanky

Member
m0dus said:
Yeah. Che. Check your PMs. I . . . uh . . . got a thing to send ya.



Also, seriously, folks? The demo is not the final game. It's not even remotely CLOSE. on any level. It's like comparing War and Peace to the summary on the back cover of the CLIFFS NOTES. That is all.


In what way? They said the demo was final code, and it's obvious the demo is purely a taster. Are you saying the experience as a whole is just much tighter, better, more fun, challenging etc?
 

Mobius 1

Member
shinnn said:
so.. no HD = no nurb, no fujimi kaido and no amalfi coast?

I think that it's a terrible choice =\

some new (?) pics

fm3_22b_3.jpg

Turn10 really doesn't get the Impreza 22B properly, it's been ugly in every Forza game :(
 
xenorevlis said:
Pssst, tell Microsoft to lower the price on their fricken HDDs. Most of my friends are working with like 12GB :(
I'm all for 2 disk games, one for gameplay and one for install. Developers have been bitching about DVD space for awhile now, having a optional/mandatory install is one way to solve that problem. So it's in Microsoft's best interest to make hard drives available at affordable prices.
 
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