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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...

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Mascot

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Really happy for all you photographers - I know the compression thing has a big issue with you guys. Nice that you got your wishes. Rejoice!
 
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AMUSIX

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eek5 said:
  • Stevio pass ?
  • White Garage from demo (autovista)
  • Topgear Studio
  • Warehouse
  • ?
  • ?

way more than 6 here:

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Seems we're not getting some of those...probably getting one of the deserts and one of the forests, which is a bummer, because both forests look really promising. Or maybe there was an issue with making trees look good enough, and both forests are out and we're getting the city location....



As for the other stuff in the UTH, damn happy....true wheelstands in drag racing just shows off more physics :)

And, it's probably been covered before, but what exactly does this mean?
In World Tour, the player’s car is limited to specific classes in all events and the AI cars are upgraded (using Quick Upgrade) to the top of the events class limits
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Will the AI take a D class car and upgrade it to the top of C class? Or will it be based on the car you're driving? In Forza 3, my primary A class car was an upgraded C class, and always looked funny showing up to the track in a sports coupe against a field of super cars.
 
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Minimaul

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AMUSIX said:
Will the AI take a D class car and upgrade it to the top of C class? Or will it be based on the car you're driving? In Forza 3, my primary A class car was an upgraded C class, and always looked funny showing up to the track in a sports coupe against a field of super cars.
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If you're doing an A class event the AI will/can use cars at or up to A600, instead of being 'stock'.

So now you're not against you in an A600 car and the AI in stock A531, A501, A513 etc. cars.
 
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eek5

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AMUSIX said:
Seems we're not getting some of those...probably getting one of the deserts and one of the forests, which is a bummer, because both forests look really promising. Or maybe there was an issue with making trees look good enough, and both forests are out and we're getting the city location....
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Yeah both do look good from the screen. It's weird that we're getting the autovista warehouse and another "warehouse". Seems a bit redundant but we'll see if there is a big difference. Too many confirmed indoor areas though!

AMUSIX said:
Will the AI take a D class car and upgrade it to the top of C class? Or will it be based on the car you're driving? In Forza 3, my primary A class car was an upgraded C class, and always looked funny showing up to the track in a sports coupe against a field of super cars.
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I'm guessing it'll be just like F3 except they'll upgrade to the top of the class. It'd be cool to have some lower class cars get upgraded up multiple classes though. I guess it might depend on what race you're doing but I don't think that has been talked about in-depth yet.
 
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rocksteady1983

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eek5 said:
I'm guessing it'll be just like F3 except they'll upgrade to the top of the class. It'd be cool to have some lower class cars get upgraded up multiple classes though. I guess it might depend on what race you're doing but I don't think that has been talked about in-depth yet.
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I'm wondering this as well. Me and my brother usually just race us against a bunch of computer opponents but it sucks cause you can only pick the cars that are stock in their class. Id love to be able to just have my own upgraded car to say an "A" class and then just go through picking any other cars and just have them "upgraded" to the same class. Would provide a ton more variety.
 
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CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
So nuggets I noticed:
Finally, if you play the game with “simulation damage” setting on, we’ve disabled the “auto-rollback” feature—so if you manage to roll your ride after a pretty nasty crash, you’ll be pretty much out of luck.
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so there is no auto-rollover but he doesn't say you can't manually rollover using the steering like in FM3. Hopefully you can't rollover in sim mode so it really is game over.

Also nice they are adding drag tyres. I know a few people in this thread were after those.
the racing slicks, but has extremely poor cornering characteristics. Frankly, this compound is horrible to drive on a road course, but launches like a rocket. This compound also wears much faster and reacts to heat differently than the other tires in the Pirelli dataset. Because Forza is an automotive sandbox, we allow you to use this tire in regular road racing--however, you’re probably going to want to change the “damage and wear” difficulty settings to cosmetic. With the proper tuning setup, we’ve been able to use these tires to get wheelstands, but it also requires strong clutch control and car with the “right” center of mass. 
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Wheel stands... The Forza 3 intro is a reality... In Forza 4! :p
 
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AMUSIX

Member
Minimaul said:
If you're doing an A class event the AI will/can use cars at or up to A600, instead of being 'stock'.

So now you're not against you in an A600 car and the AI in stock A531, A501, A513 etc. cars.
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Hmmm, so they AI won't boost cars up through classes? Oh well....

Guess this is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, it makes the pack in every race that much closer. On the other hand, it makes it so it doesn't matter what car the AI shows up in. I used to like seeing the car field and understanding which cars would be able to handle turns better, which were stronger in the straights. Now it's homogenized the entire field, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.

Also, really wish they had set certain races to be something along the lines of "D to B Class" where you had to take a D class car and upgrade it to B, and the AI would do so as well. Those upgrade points can get used in so many different directions, it'd make for an interesting field.


Of course, then there's liveries :)....maybe for F5, the AI can start 'borrowing' liveries from a stable that you'd provide. Would definitely increase the auction sales of paint jobs since you'd be buying not only for your garage, but also for the AI's.
 
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eek5

Member
They missed an opportunity to give VIP members multiple bigshot slots! Also no talk about video editing must mean there have been no changes. :/

cjelly said:
So nuggets I noticed:

so there is no auto-rollover but he doesn't say you can't manually rollover using the steering like in FM3. Hopefully you can't rollover in sim mode so it really is game over.
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Out of luck sounds like the race is over unless you don't have rewind enabled :lol
 
Slayer-33

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
cjelly said:
So nuggets I noticed:

so there is no auto-rollover but he doesn't say you can't manually rollover using the steering like in FM3. Hopefully you can't rollover in sim mode so it really is game over.

Also nice they are adding drag tyres. I know a few people in this thread were after those.
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What they mean by auto roll over is car roll over I bet.

You can't roll the car over upright regardless is what I'm getting from it, which I don't mind tbh.

Rewind ^_^
 
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eek5

Member
rocksteady1983 said:
I'm wondering this as well. Me and my brother usually just race us against a bunch of computer opponents but it sucks cause you can only pick the cars that are stock in their class. Id love to be able to just have my own upgraded car to say an "A" class and then just go through picking any other cars and just have them "upgraded" to the same class. Would provide a ton more variety.
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There are like 250 races on that grid now. I bet some of them include things like "tuner challenge" where the requirement is, say, an originally B class car but the race is an A class race or something. It'll be cool if it goes further than that (i.e. ferrari races with the older ferraris swapped/upgraded to compete in A/S classes) but I won't hold my breath..


ShapeGSX said:
3840x2160 = 8.2 megapixel
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Wait until sky finch stitches 5x4 bigshots! 19200x8640 :D
 
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rocksteady1983

Member
eek5 said:
There are like 250 races on that grid now. I bet some of them include things like "tuner challenge" where the requirement is, say, an originally B class car but the race is an A class race or something. It'll be cool if it goes further than that (i.e. ferrari races with the older ferraris swapped/upgraded to compete in A/S classes) but I won't hold my breath..
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I'm talking over Xbox live, private race. The car variety for opponents is really low cause you can only choose cars that are a specific class based on being stock.
 
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G Rom

Member
Damn, I was hoping for compressed 1080p. Lossless 3840x2160 ? Thank you bearded god !
Now, I just hope they've bought new servers for My Forza so that it always works... :lol
Fuck, I know I'm in the minority but this announcement hyped me more than anything released previously !

Ok, I'm off to read the rest of the article as I just ran to the photo question ! :lol
 
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saladine1

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mCkG7.jpg

Paintable headcovers

Time period cosmetics
No auto roll back
restrictions on race cars
drag tyre slicks
removable spoilers and bumpers
potential wheel stands

..yummy
 
U n i o n 0015

U n i o n 0015

Member
You know, even if I can only export a limited amount of photos via Big Shot, it STILL kicks ass that they offered it. I don't even mind the hassle of retrieving them from the web, I'm just glad that I can finally get great shots onto my PC!
 
Slayer-33

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
U n i o n 0015 said:
You know, even if I can only export a limited amount of photos via Big Shot, it STILL kicks ass that they offered it. I don't even mind the hassle of retrieving them from the web, I'm just glad that I can finally get great shots onto my PC!
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We can do A LOT with that sort of quality/resolution.

Loots of original material to be had now. I can make infinite amounts of FM 4 covers lol! I'm so happy.
 
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G Rom

Member
Same here, I'll only do Big Shots.

The other bits on customization, assists and AI are just fantastic.
Still a little over one month before tasting all that new stuff ourselves !
 
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flyinpiranha

Member
U n i o n 0015 said:
You know, even if I can only export a limited amount of photos via Big Shot, it STILL kicks ass that they offered it. I don't even mind the hassle of retrieving them from the web, I'm just glad that I can finally get great shots onto my PC!
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EXACTLY! It was one of the main reasons I avoided the F3 stuff. Can't wait now! I wonder if you can "buy" more space or if VIP (LCE Owners) will get more. That would be awesome.

Either way great news today. I hope we see a demo next week!

Amazing how some simple good news can change the tone of this thread. Keep it coming T10!
 
skyfinch

skyfinch

Member
Maybe FM4 will get a photo thread that will last a couple months this time. :D

Excited to see what G rom and other good photographers will turn out.
 
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G Rom

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Jube, can we take photos in Autovista ?
I really hope so, I want my Big Shots of the SLS engine, the F1, the Enzo, etc... :eek:
 
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op_ivy

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AMUSIX said:
Guess this is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, it makes the pack in every race that much closer. On the other hand, it makes it so it doesn't matter what car the AI shows up in. I used to like seeing the car field and understanding which cars would be able to handle turns better, which were stronger in the straights. Now it's homogenized the entire field, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.
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just because cars have the same PI does not mean that they excel, or falter, in the same ways. you will definitely still see cars behaving differently, but now they will all be at their peak for that class.

its definitely an improvement to what was done before, but it would be better if the ai just auto-upgraded to your cars PI (or remained at stock PI if your car is lower) IMO.
 
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AMUSIX

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FM4 photo thread better have rules on resizing. Perhaps in the OP a quick 'tutorial' on which software to use, what format to save under, what level of compresison, and which image hosting to use?
 
eso76

eso76

Member
now i need an ipad to download pics as soon as i upload them.
i doubt you can upload more than 2 or 3 uncompressed 3xxx x 2yyy pics.
yummi :D

and you're not restricted to photo travel..errr..i mean homespace locations :D
always loved fm3 photomode interface: quick and responsive, othergame5's a nightmare in comparison.


and the upgrades ? delicious stuff.
from paintable headlight covers to full OEM packages.
Dan, i want to touch your beard...

and not to sound greedy but are we still getting a garage roundup today ?
 
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AMUSIX

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op_ivy said:
just because cars have the same PI does not mean that they excel, or falter, in the same ways. you will definitely still see cars behaving differently, but now they will all be at their peak for that class.

its definitely an improvement to what was done before, but it would be better if the ai just auto-upgraded to your cars PI (or remained at stock PI if your car is lower) IMO.
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Oh, I understand that, but it still homogenizes things a bit.
 
U n i o n 0015

U n i o n 0015

Member
flyinpiranha said:
Amazing how some simple good news can change the tone of this thread. Keep it coming T10!
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It really can. Though it almost makes the loss of Porsche and a few tracks worse--because it's clear the Forza 4 improves on all the issues that people had with parts of 3.
 
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eek5

Member
op_ivy said:
just because cars have the same PI does not mean that they excel, or falter, in the same ways. you will definitely still see cars behaving differently, but now they will all be at their peak for that class.

its definitely an improvement to what was done before, but it would be better if the ai just auto-upgraded to your cars PI (or remained at stock PI if your car is lower) IMO.
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I think dan mentioned in an interview that the AI would be upgrading based on how much you were beating them in previous races to keep it competitive for you. I'd imagine if you were racing all stock against cars in all you races they probably wouldn't max out their upgrades but who knows? Hopefully there are some options because I did enjoy some of the stock races.
 
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squared

Member
Let's hope these new drag slicks ACTUALLY BITE this time.. I mean, even the "improved" grip drag strip in FM3 was slippery like asphalt in rain :/

But the big shot-feature and the rest of it is sweet.
 
eso76

eso76

Member
Be afraid, 56k-ers, be VERY afraid. MUAHAHAHAHAHA

(nitpicking, but why no 'little compression 1080p mode' ? :) )
 
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AlanzTalon

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eek5 said:
They missed an opportunity to give VIP members multiple bigshot slots! Also no talk about video editing must mean there have been no changes. :/


Out of luck sounds like the race is over unless you don't have rewind enabled :lol
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yeah the way i read it if you roll it over with Sim damage you will A) have trashed your car to the point it won't move much anyway and B) if you come to rest on the roof you just sit there until the race ends.
 
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Mascot

Member
eek5 said:
It's weird that we're getting the autovista warehouse and another "warehouse".
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We've seen this second warehouse. I think it's in the E3 trailer. Pretty sure it's got a dark pitched roof with a skylight in it. I'm on my iPhone otherwise I'd try to dig an image out. Damn shame about those missing homespaces.
 
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AMUSIX

Member
One last photo worry I have....camera placement. Are we still confined to an 8 foot height directly over the roadway? No spectator or aerial shots?
 
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