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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...
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CrudeDiatribe
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Mascot said:
"Naaa naaaa naaaa" -John Riccitiello
soundscream
Member
Ballmer: No amalfi? Fix this shit!Mascot said:
dragonelite
Member
Mascot said:
we own Porsche now !!!
Metalmurphy
Member
Mascot said:
Developers of games publish by EA have. To sum it up, they're saying that MS actions towards the Ferrari license came back biting them in the ass.
Apex
Member
I doubt it, it would be a marketing failure to increase the price base of the wheel only to enable compatibility for a small fraction of the total potential buyers.watership said:
MS fees and extra hardware in order to enable XID force feedback are not cheap. Compare Fanatec previous wheels prices with and without compatibility.
The only solution would be an exclusive G for 360 with an even higher price than PC/PS3 and I doubt it happen. Is not a G series problem but a full range PC wheels hardware incompatibility.
flyinpiranha
Member
Apex said:
Why so? It's not like it's marketing to only people who own both ... but to people who own either also.
SPEEDxNASTY
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Metalmurphy said:
You reap what you sow... ... ...
flyinpiranha
Member
Metalmurphy said:
I thought they allowed Ferrari's in other games on the 360 though? Unless I'm mistaken.
skyfinch
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Found this interview (probably old news). Only watched a couple seconds of the beginning so I don't know what it's all about. Interviewer has an epic facial feature that even makes Dan nervous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vslLITzVS-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vslLITzVS-I
Apex
Member
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3766701#post3766701watership said:
Controllers do not need a XID FF hardware "decoder".
Also in the same link see what Fanatec think of a DFP wheel for 360:
Fanatec said:
Here is a better explanation of the XID-HID differences:
http://www.raceroom.net/forums/index.php?topic=228.0
Spaceman Spiff
Member
skyfinch said:
Yeah, nothing new, but Dan commenting on Stephane Sarrazin (Peugeot LMP1 driver) running two full 8-hour stints in the hydraulic simulator in the run-up to Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta was quite cool.
Apex said:
Good explanation..
The thing is, from what has been said, for a company like logitech, developing some software to decode and 'replay' XID commands shouldn't be too hard..
I believe from other Fanatec forum posts, that the XID commands are things like "Play Effect 10", where effect 10 is meant to signify a rumble strip, so the onboard processor must then control the FF/Rumble motors to achieve this effect..
It's more processor intensive then HID for sure, but microcontroller's able to handle that kind of thing are ludicrously cheap, all the money is in software development, MS Licencing and I think controllers need to authenticate with a seperate IC, but again, that must be cheap, loads of cheap peripherals exist..
(I'd love to work for a gaming peripheral company, as a software engineer, I've done loads of firmware for next gen hydraulics that in principle operates in a similar manner to XID, but the fact Logitech haven't done it, and that Fanatec buy their boards from MS tells me there could be more to it then meets the eye!)
[edit] In theory, it should be feasible to do a 'rough' HID->XID bridge, the issue would be not having direct access to both rumble/FFB over HID, meaning the XID effects might be a bit compromised, and I doubt MS would allow such a device..
soundscream
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Turn 10: Incubating a new definition for first thing in the morning.
There's an actual protocol before they head into the office. All Turn 10 employees form two lines on either side at the entrance to the studios, a guard of honour if you will. In their hands, are fine ivory combs ready and waiting as Dan Greenawalt makes his way through the procession as each employee takes turns in combing and stroking the holy beard.soundscream said:
It lasts a bit so lets be patient...
zephervack
Member
Snubbers said:
Im pretty sure that Logitech is not in this space yet for a reason, im sure they have market analysts, statisticians etc that tell them if the effort and investment of introducing a wheel for the 360 will recoup or not. The thing with making wheels for PC and PS3 is that by making one you get the other almost for free, as they are so similar, see for example the Logitech GT5 wheel, it was developed with the creators of Gt5 for Gt5 on PS3 but it still works for PC and it has great support, probably because it was very easy to make it work with PC as the structure is the same.
It is a shame because i cant afford the Fanatec wheels, which means that i have 2 wheels, one Microsoft Wheel and one Logitech wheel, going back to Forza which i love is very hard after using a logitech wheel, but i eventually get used to it..
soundscream
Member
Dude nose whats up.skyfinch said:
skyfinch
Member
Good morning, folks.
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood3/
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood3/
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
We changed our compression library on standard 1280x720 photos. These are still compressed, but they feature far less artifacting than in Forza 3.
Weve added a photo option called Big Shot. In Big Shot, there is no compression and the file is output at 3840x2160 resolution. Like regular photos in Forza 3, players can take Big Shots during races from the pause menu, from within replays, as well as in the career homespace (more on those below). Obviously, these Big Shot files are huge (click the image above to see a Big Shot at full size). As a result, you can only save a very limited number of these to the server at a time. As with WMV files in Forza 3, your best workflow will be to take a shot, upload it to the server, retrieve it and then replace it with another shot. Because Xbox 360 file I/O is encrypted, there is no support for saving these files in an unencrypted fashion to a USB drive for easy PC retrieval. On the bright side, with no compression and massive resolution, Big Shot produces print quality photographs.
Weve added a new option to select vignette filters to add to the picture. These allow you to add another post effect (like sepia) to your shots without taking them into Photoshop.
Finally, photographers can take photos in more career homespace locations. In Forza 3, the career homespace was a special version of the lowest corner of Camino Viejo full. In Forza 4, players can choose from six different homespaces each featuring a distinct look. This collection of homespaces includes the white garage from the E3 2010 Autovista demo, the Top Gear Studio interior recently shown at Gamescom, as well as a new interior space we call the Warehouse, among others.
Weve added a photo option called Big Shot. In Big Shot, there is no compression and the file is output at 3840x2160 resolution. Like regular photos in Forza 3, players can take Big Shots during races from the pause menu, from within replays, as well as in the career homespace (more on those below). Obviously, these Big Shot files are huge (click the image above to see a Big Shot at full size). As a result, you can only save a very limited number of these to the server at a time. As with WMV files in Forza 3, your best workflow will be to take a shot, upload it to the server, retrieve it and then replace it with another shot. Because Xbox 360 file I/O is encrypted, there is no support for saving these files in an unencrypted fashion to a USB drive for easy PC retrieval. On the bright side, with no compression and massive resolution, Big Shot produces print quality photographs.
Weve added a new option to select vignette filters to add to the picture. These allow you to add another post effect (like sepia) to your shots without taking them into Photoshop.
Finally, photographers can take photos in more career homespace locations. In Forza 3, the career homespace was a special version of the lowest corner of Camino Viejo full. In Forza 4, players can choose from six different homespaces each featuring a distinct look. This collection of homespaces includes the white garage from the E3 2010 Autovista demo, the Top Gear Studio interior recently shown at Gamescom, as well as a new interior space we call the Warehouse, among others.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
My rody is so beady right now.
http://download.xbox.com/content/mg...in/blog/mainimage/BMW_M5_Bigshot_on_track.jpg
example of bigshot..
wut :O
example of bigshot..
wut :O
zephervack
Member
benzy said:
Me too, is the only thing that bothers me now, i used to pay for Live but never used it, but i def want to take pictures in this mode and i wont pay for live so i can do this.
flyinpiranha
Member
That's awesome news! Everything I read there I liked.
ShapeGSX said:I'm going to miss lobby tuning from Forza 2.I suspect they just didn't have the memory for it.
It would be so awesome if they could have "tuning mode" in MP even if it meant only having 2-4 players. No need for credits/scoring or anything.
BTW, that TGUS build must be ~5 months old. I saw this image posted in the forza leak thread while trying to find that gif:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27343936&postcount=643
rocksteady1983
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That photomode/bigshot info is music to my ears! Absolutely cannot wait now!!!!!!!!!!
Shortt Sirket
Member
That "Big Shot" pic is 3.5Mb, which means we will finally be able to take some decent pics.
Plus, the drag tires and the bumper/wing delete makes me beyond happy.
Plus, the drag tires and the bumper/wing delete makes me beyond happy.
