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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...

SPEEDxNASTY

Neo Member
I think that like a lot of people here, I WAS very excited about Autovista...
...until they announced it was ony available for a LIMITED numbers of cars.

Now that I know that, I don't really care much about Autovista anymore, its just a bonus bling feature in my opinion.....................................

(but I do understand the amount of work that would be required to include ALL cars in Autovista, 2 years of development and 2 DVD's wouldn't have been enough)
 

eso76

Member
saladine1 said:
I like tangerine, it's my favourite fruit.

great, this suggests we're getting car air freshener upgrades.

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eek5 said:
You're responding to people responding to people doing that. It's easy to come in here and shake your head at out of context replies.

Actually the post I quoted wasn't mentioning anyone in particular. It even had an "everyone" there. And the "weather simulator" comment was in no way related to the previous comments, it was just a dismissal of the weather feature. Which is absolutely nonsense. Any self proclaimed sim racer would want weather over something like Auto Vista, and for the record, I love everything about Auto Vista.

Seems that you're the one that took my post out of context.
 

eek5

Member
SPEEDxNASTY said:
I think that like a lot of people here, I WAS very excited about Autovista...
...until they announced it was ony available for a LIMITED numbers of cars.

Now that I know that, I don't really care much about Autovista anymore, its just a bonus bling feature in my opinion.....................................

(but I do understand the amount of work that would be required to include ALL cars in Autovista, 2 years of development and 2 DVD's wouldn't have been enough)
At some point you're going to have to draw the line. How much money do you think they'd have to divert to pay JC to sit in a studio voicing over 500 cars? What could that money be used for? You'd also have to remodel most of the cars in FM to that level of detail. Priorities, etc.
Metalmurphy said:
Actually the post I quoted wasn't mentioning anyone in particular. It even had an "everyone" there. And the "weather simulator" comment was in no way related to the previous comments, it was just a dismissal of the weather feature.

Seems that you're the one that took my post out of context.
Nice bait but nope.
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
SPEEDxNASTY said:
I think that like a lot of people here, I WAS very excited about Autovista...
...until they announced it was ony available for a LIMITED numbers of cars.

Now that I know that, I don't really care much about Autovista anymore, its just a bonus bling feature in my opinion.....................................

(but I do understand the amount of work that would be required to include ALL cars in Autovista, 2 years of development and 2 DVD's wouldn't have been enough)

The main reason for this is that few cars are very unique or have the history to require an autovista level type of work.
 
SPEEDxNASTY said:
I think that like a lot of people here, I WAS very excited about Autovista...
...until they announced it was ony available for a LIMITED numbers of cars.

Now that I know that, I don't really care much about Autovista anymore, its just a bonus bling feature in my opinion.....................................

(but I do understand the amount of work that would be required to include ALL cars in Autovista, 2 years of development and 2 DVD's wouldn't have been enough)

My hype definitely did go down. I wish you could at least explore the cars, not all need to have audio commentary or text info ... but I guess modeling all those cars with open doors/hoods/trunks would be pretty overwhelming.
 
OrangeOak said:
Some people were saying that damage is not important,you never know...

Visual damage is not very important actually, mechanical damage has always been very important. That has always been my stance way before we even knew what damage GT5 was gonna get (yes I know what ur getting at), and it wasn't just me.
 
I just don't understand the GT/Forza stuff. It comes across as possibly the most idiotic thing to argue about in gaming. I love both games, they are both amazing racing games. I prefer certain aspects of GT and I prefer certain parts of Forza and I would never want them to try to be like each other all the time. The differences in the games is what makes them so interesting as the people behind both games obviously have different focuses.

It just strikes me as infinitely juvenile and petty...
 

eek5

Member
Metalmurphy said:
How was that a bait? lol...

CozMick said:
No night racing, no weather....apart from brighter roads and more cars on track what exactly have T10 been doing?

Auto Vista counts for nothing

Fortinbras said:
Yeah well. No game has everything. Even the other game is missing a lot of features.

That being said: If Forza 5 doesn't feature weather, I won't buy it. It's as simple as that.



Phonomezer said:
So apparently everyone wants a weather simulator? Okay.


Metalmurphy said:
Yes, lets dismiss how important weather is on a race by calling it a weather simulator.


smh


Pretending to be innocent, baiting me into a stupid argument etc. no thanks

That's context by the way. Twist it however you want lmao
 
Metalmurphy said:
Baiting YOU? You quoted me.

How about you both just shut up and move past it and talk about, I dunno, Forza.

Jesus people, it is like watching a bunch of 12 year olds on the playground in here...
 

CozMick

Banned
I will be be buying day one, there ain't no doubt in that.

I just wanted T10 to raise the bar substantially to warrant my £40-50, fuck whatever I said about GT5 or F3.

I spent a good few hundred hours on GT5, loved the shit out of it, even it's flaws didn't quite diminish my enjoyment and I'm sure the lack of weather and night racing won't stop me from playing the shit out of F4.

But I do believe T10 have got there priorities mixed up, and Autovista should be right at the bottom of the pile, because lets be honest what exactly does it add to the core driving experience?
 
CozMick said:
I will be be buying day one, there ain't no doubt in that.

I just wanted T10 to raise the bar substantially to warrant my £40-50, fuck whatever I said about GT5 or F3.

I spent a good few hundred hours on GT5, loved the shit out of it, even it's flaws didn't quite diminish my enjoyment and I'm sure the lack of weather and night racing won't stop me from playing the shit out of F4.

But I do believe T10 have got there priorities mixed up, and Autovista should be right at the bottom of the pile, because lets be honest what exactly does it add to the core driving experience?

I think it is the best thing they have added. As a crazy car lover, this is like porn for me. It is more than just driving (as even GT is doing more cool stuff now with the museum cards, etc). Being able to get this intimate with these cars is a virtual dream come true to me. Remember...just because it is not something YOU enjoy, does not mean they should just ignore it.
 

CozMick

Banned
Shortt Sirket said:
I think it is the best thing they have added. As a crazy car lover, this is like porn for me. It is more than just driving (as even GT is doing more cool stuff now with the museum cards, etc). Being able to get this intimate with these cars is a virtual dream come true to me. Remember...just because it is not something YOU enjoy, does not mean they should just ignore it.

Don't ignore it sure, I'm certain a lot of players will love it. but since they announced the game it's been nothing but Autovista.
 
CozMick said:
Don't ignore it sure, I'm certain a lot of players will love it. but since they announced the game it's been nothing but Autovista.

That is a fair point. I do feel they have focused a bit too much on it considering there aren't going to be that many cars. I think they do it because it just looks so bloody amazing.
 

CozMick

Banned
Shortt Sirket said:
That is a fair point. I do feel they have focused a bit too much on it considering there aren't going to be that many cars. I think they do it because it just looks so bloody amazing.

True dat!

I want time trials with those models *drools*

Surely wouldn't be too much of a strain on the game engine with only one car on screen. :lol
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
CozMick said:
Don't ignore it sure, I'm certain a lot of players will love it. but since they announced the game it's been nothing but Autovista.

They need more visibility with the casual racing game fans market to generate the sales that will keep things running. These guys need our support if we want them to keep improving the franchise. While I know that they are completely passionate about their work this isn't a charity, it's a business and they need to sell for MS. What they have done to get taken seriously and get mentioned in the same breath as a behemoth franchise the likes of the GT series is astounding.


I bet you'll enjoy the game a ton once you get it.
 
SPEEDxNASTY said:
I think that like a lot of people here, I WAS very excited about Autovista...
...until they announced it was ony available for a LIMITED numbers of cars.

Now that I know that, I don't really care much about Autovista anymore, its just a bonus bling feature in my opinion.....................................

(but I do understand the amount of work that would be required to include ALL cars in Autovista, 2 years of development and 2 DVD's wouldn't have been enough)

I am not sure why I would need AutoVista for a Honda Accord. If I want to see one I would just go to the local dealer.

Again since this thread start, some of you guys really got your expectation blown out of the water. And I am only talking about those that really are fans of the game and not just come in here to troll.
 

SPEEDxNASTY

Neo Member
I agree it would be useless for all cars and a waste of time/ressource but at least for MORE cars.
Renault Twingo Autovista? No thanks, do not want. ;-)
 
Metalmurphy said:
Yes, lets dismiss how important weather is on a race by calling it a weather simulator.


smh

It's rain here 9 months out of the year, I can do without rain in my virtual driving game. But just as many of you decidedly to dismiss thing like AutoVista, a game that actually run at 60 fps without screen getting chop in half and with all cars having cockpit view along with fully model not shitty upscale from last gen game then I guess everyone have difference priority what they view as what important in racing game.

We all know why the three of you are in here why don't just drop the antics and just resurrect that GT vs Forza or better yet just ask mod if you can do GT5 vs Forza 4 thread and be done with it. There are many new juniors here and I want to know who I should ignore.
 
antiquegamer said:
It's rain here 9 months out of the year, I can do without rain in my virtual driving game. But just as many of you decidedly to dismiss thing like AutoVista, a game that actually run at 60 fps without screen getting chop in half and with all cars having cockpit view along with fully model not shitty upscale from last gen game then I guess everyone have difference priority what they view as what important in racing game.

We all know why the three of you are in here why don't just drop the antics and just resurrect that GT vs Forza or better yet just ask mod if you can do GT5 vs Forza 4 thread and be done with it. There are many new juniors here and I want to know who I should ignore.

I haven't said a single bad thing about Forza 4. Not ONE SINGLE THING.

Why don't you go check my posts in the Forza 4 reveal thread before you start spewing out bullshit.
 

Wazzim

Banned
Metalmurphy said:
I haven't said a single bad thing about Forza 4. Not ONE SINGLE THING.

Why don't you go check my posts in the Forza 4 reveal thread before you start spewing out bullshit.
I agree, Metalmurphy hasn't said anything negative. Don't put blame on people who did nothing wrong.
 
Metalmurphy said:
I haven't said a single bad thing about Forza 4. Not ONE SINGLE THING.

Why don't you go check my posts in the Forza 4 reveal thread before you start spewing out bullshit.

You know you are in Forza 4 preview thread right?

As far as spewing out bullshit, well you know I didn't exactly mention your name either, so not sure why you feel hot and bother. Then again, didn't you said something about glass floor? Kettle, pot black etc.
 
antiquegamer said:
You know you are in Forza 4 preview thread right?

As far as spewing out bullshit, well you know I didn't exactly mention you name either, so not sure why you feel hot and bother. Then again, didn't you said something about glass floor? Kettle, pot black etc.

antiquegamer said:
It's rain here 9 months out of the year, I can do without rain in my virtual driving game. But just as many of you decidedly to dismiss thing like AutoVista, a game that actually run at 60 fps without screen getting chop in half and with all cars having cockpit view along with fully model not shitty upscale from last gen game then I guess everyone have difference priority what they view as what important in racing game.

We all know why the three of you are in here why don't just drop the antics and just resurrect that GT vs Forza or better yet just ask mod if you can do GT5 vs Forza 4 thread and be done with it. There are many new juniors here and I want to know who I should ignore.

Yes you did, btw am a GT5 fan but that is not going to deter me from buying and most likely enjoying Forza 4.
 
antiquegamer said:
You know you are in Forza 4 preview thread right?
Your point?

antiquegamer said:
As far as spewing out bullshit, well you know I didn't exactly mention you name either, so not sure why you feel hot and bother. Then again, didn't you said something about glass floor? Kettle, pot black etc.
"three of you" "if you can do", while quoting me.
 

Xanadu

Banned
dont worry murphy you get used to it, if you say anything positive about the GT series over the forza series you get branded as a GT fanboy

i think autovista is a nice addition too but i guarantee if they skipped that they could have added night and whether, and maybe more tracks ffs.

and why do they say its not possible to do it? they night racing on forza 1 last gen, GT5 does it..i think t10 are just making excuses
 
Xanadu said:
dont worry murphy you get used to it, if you say anything positive about the GT series over the forza series you get branded as a GT fanboy

i think autovista is a nice addition too but i guarantee if they skipped that they could have added night and whether, and maybe more tracks ffs.

and why do they say its not possible to do it? they night racing on forza 1 last gen, GT5 does it..i think t10 are just making excuses

Jeeeze..

Please bring back the Forza v GT thread if it's gonna bring posts like this.
 
Metalmurphy said:
"three of you"

Are you one of the three? or did you change your name to "three of you"? If not then my comment shouldn't bother you.

Anyway, I just want to come here to read and discuss about Forza 4 so I am done. I will just check the official thread.
 
antiquegamer said:
Are you one of the three? or did you change your name to "three of you"? If not then my comment shouldn't bother you.

Anyway, I just want to come here to read and discuss about Forza 4 so I am done. I will just check the official thread.
oO Are you being deliberately obtuse? If you mention "three of you" while quoting me, you are mentioning me.


You say you came here to read and discuss Forza 4 but all you did was troll GT5 with this fabulous post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31101505&postcount=8233

And then have the balls to jump on me for trolling Forza 4, something I never did...

Unbelievable.
 

Yoritomo

Member
h3ro said:
Did the game have issues? Yes. But what the hell were you playing? This is pure nonsense.

I'm really sensitive to tearing. Throw all the features (1080, night, rain, shit ton of cars) and the game would drop even below 30 fps, where most normal racing has it hovering around 45-50 fps or so.

I played the crap out of the game too.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
-MikePriester- said:
Jeeeze..

Please bring back the Forza v GT thread if it's gonna bring posts like this.
It's still open, and I support the notion that people should take this bullshit there.
 

Mascot

Member
I hate to break up the bickering with something actually, you know, game related, but just a heads-up for people in the UK: Coolshop have cancelled all pre-orders of the FM4 LCE. It's GAME or nowhere, folks.

BTW, oranges FTW.
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
Kart racing would be a strange fit for FM4 imo. Karts are fun, but they don't do anything to stroke my car boner. Track editor would be nice if it was done right.
 
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