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Forza Motorsport 6 |OT| Forza turns 10
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I saw it and I had to have it lol.
psychotron
Member
Patch didn't do shit for the lead car taking off. Those "server side" improvements made it worse if anything. I find this unacceptable, after shelling out money for the deluxe edition. It shouldn't have shipped with such an obvious AI issue.
I know it happens, as I've seen it. I'd say it honestly only happens like once every 10-12 races for me though.
Really annoying jumping into the new Toyota and be completely out classed by the AI because I didn't max out its PI for the class. I love the new Honda race car, sounds amazing and drives great, but I'm racing next to V8 Super Cars....this shit is really hampering my enjoyment of the game, along with the restrictive and boring career. Just give us options T10 to help us out.
BTW the GT350R sounds INCREDIBLE now, holy shit what a thing of beauty.
BTW the GT350R sounds INCREDIBLE now, holy shit what a thing of beauty.
Adding a limo to the game is appalling. It's also hilarious. I haven't had time to play with any of the new cars yet but the pack looks pretty high quality. There's only one car that I'll probably never bother using (Volvo). If the rest of the car packs are this good it'll be amazing.
Coming Soon™
But yeah i think there might be a free pack this month. Considering that out of the 3 leaked cars last month, only two of them made it into the pack. (Limo/T1) The Citroen DS3 Racing is still absent. Then our good friend BADNED has listed the 16' Focus as TBA DLC, which is slotted in between the October pack and the November pack. So hopefully we'll see that soon, along with a drivatar fix and audio sliders.
Both the W154 and limo handle way better than I expected (than they should?), so much so that I am questioning the validity of the physics model in these cars (and the game), you've got cars beating other cars that would come no where near in real life.
Something I also noticed is, the cars don't seem to feel overly different between what you'd expect to be cars that are markedly different.
Take the W154, a car from over 70 years ago, just handles like a generic A class car.
300ZX is the highlight of the pack for me.
Something I also noticed is, the cars don't seem to feel overly different between what you'd expect to be cars that are markedly different.
Take the W154, a car from over 70 years ago, just handles like a generic A class car.
300ZX is the highlight of the pack for me.
Don't be surprised - Forza has always been about fun over realism.
Not really complaining though, maybe these cars do handle like that, never driven a limo.
While I do agree, I think FM always used to have a foot, even if it was only one, firmly planted in reality, I think we've moved a (long?) way away from that with 6.
And I also think that drivatars getting damaged has just highlighted just how rubbish the system actually is, you now get two or three damage cars limping around the track that you have to lap numerous times.
Quickly going off this game.
Neither have I, but I assure you they don't.
JackAubrey
Member
Server side changes have definitely made a difference for me in career events. Not seeing cars shoot off into the distance so much now. Yes there's often one that's gained some distance out front - but that's what one might expect without the pack, but they can be caught now.
GHG
Gold Member
Well basically this highlights how incompetent the drivatars actually are.
"but its realistic" I hear them say. Its really not.
Having said that, I'm glad they have made it so that they also take damage so that they can't just smash into you and profit from it anymore.
Diablohead
Member
One of my beefs with the robotic AI is how they try to speed cap themselves for the wrong reasons, for example if you race with slower AI and try to push one to go faster with your own car, they will brake until they drop down to their canned AI speeds even on straights.
They also never oversteer, they understeer often and drive off into the grass like they have no working brakes but they never ever leave a corner with a swinging back or any kind of wheelspin 99% of the time, even in the rain unless you push or crash into them first.
They also never oversteer, they understeer often and drive off into the grass like they have no working brakes but they never ever leave a corner with a swinging back or any kind of wheelspin 99% of the time, even in the rain unless you push or crash into them first.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Disappointed in no corner cutting fixes.
Spa is a joke.
Sebring has gone back to FM2 levels.
LRP can skip the entire south chicane gaining more than 2 seconds a lap.
etc...
Spa is a joke.
Sebring has gone back to FM2 levels.
LRP can skip the entire south chicane gaining more than 2 seconds a lap.
etc...
Diablohead
Member
I'm happy to not have sticky grass in forza but yeah some corners can be ignored and cut badly, always surprised that this kind of stuff will get through in every single forza game.
I have noticed some corners with bumps will slow you down if you try to cut them, not sure if they were made more sticky from the latest update or not because I don't remember them grabbing me last week when playing offline.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Would prefer quick sand infinitely over nothing which is what we essentially have now.
*gets in decent sized pub lobby with semi intelligent drivers*
*second race gets obscenely long load time*
*afk kid in lobby only one to load*
*everyone in lobby disappears*
T10 gonna 343...
Just a reminder
This Saturday is our first league race. We will start at 3pm Eastern, baseball playoffs be damned.
Any C class car with any tune to a max of C500. The car you pick for this race will be the car you race for all 4 races, so choose wisely.
These are the tracks we'll be doing:
Rio de Janeiro - Coast Loop Reverse
Indy - Grand Prix Circuit
Circuit America - East Route
Laguna Seca - Full Circuit
When we get everyone in the lobby we will have a 5 minute practice time. After that we will race for real. The race will take about 15 minutes. For the Rio track I'm thinking 15 - 20 laps. Points will be awarded and I'll link to them here.
If you can't make it but still want to get in the fun. We are also collecting lap times for each race. So load it up in rivals and set you best time. Post it here, I'll collect them and also award points for this. Deadline for lap times is Saturday 3:00pm.
This Saturday is our first league race. We will start at 3pm Eastern, baseball playoffs be damned.
Any C class car with any tune to a max of C500. The car you pick for this race will be the car you race for all 4 races, so choose wisely.
These are the tracks we'll be doing:
Rio de Janeiro - Coast Loop Reverse
Indy - Grand Prix Circuit
Circuit America - East Route
Laguna Seca - Full Circuit
When we get everyone in the lobby we will have a 5 minute practice time. After that we will race for real. The race will take about 15 minutes. For the Rio track I'm thinking 15 - 20 laps. Points will be awarded and I'll link to them here.
If you can't make it but still want to get in the fun. We are also collecting lap times for each race. So load it up in rivals and set you best time. Post it here, I'll collect them and also award points for this. Deadline for lap times is Saturday 3:00pm.
frontieruk
Member
.Just a reminder
This Saturday is our first league race. We will start at 3pm Eastern, baseball playoffs be damned.
Any C class car with any tune to a max of C500. The car you pick for this race will be the car you race for all 4 races, so choose wisely.
These are the tracks we'll be doing:
Rio de Janeiro - Coast Loop Reverse
Indy - Grand Prix Circuit
Circuit America - East Route
Laguna Seca - Full Circuit
When we get everyone in the lobby we will have a 5 minute practice time. After that we will race for real. The race will take about 15 minutes. For the Rio track I'm thinking 15 - 20 laps. Points will be awarded and I'll link to them here.
If you can't make it but still want to get in the fun. We are also collecting lap times for each race. So load it up in rivals and set you best time. Post it here, I'll collect them and also award points for this. Deadline for lap times is Saturday 3:00pm.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I agree with JackAubrey, the AI issue seems improved. Unbeatable AI has become a little too beatable for me though. Maybe they should add another difficulty... or just give the AI more adequate cars in free play (or better: finally rework free play, so I can pick opponents and grid position myself!)
In general cars feel very light and don't understeer enough in slow corners, but the limo didn't feel too off for me, it's only 2.5 tons, not much more than a Tesla Model S, so... not too boat'ish. The FWD grip-loss under acceleration should play less of a role in longer cars, that's a pro. And still the back wants to shove you through corners under slight deceleration, accurate. Ok, it felt easier than I expected going in, but thinking about it, it's probably not so far off, when you consider that Forza cars in general feel lighter and less understeery than in other games. Edit: The Limo is missing more chassis flex, but then again, like others have said, I haven't driven one in real life (yet
).On the W154: The setup feels too stiff and the tyres are way way way too grippy, they feel like they're from the future not from 80 years in the past. I agree there. Edit: It's also weird that both the front and the rear wheels have positive camber going. I haven't read up on it, but didn't early race cars with low-width/big-diameter wheels have positive front and negative back wheel camber? Maybe I'm wrong, but physically I wouldn't know why and like to be lectured here, so if someone knows and has the time to spare his knowledge... I'd be delighted.
I also agree on the 300ZX. Haven't tried the Volve yet and usually prefer production over race-cars on Forza and GT, but that car is amazing! The engine sound has the visceralness, PCARS captures so well in race cars. That the actual turbo-power is still not entirely predictable from the noise adds to the thrill. The cockpit FOV, even though the wind-shield again is not more than a slit, feels authentic and adds to the thrill as well. My favorite so far from the car-pack and maybe even in my Top5 overall.
In the past haven't you complained that modern Forza's handling was too slippery?
GHG
Gold Member
More slippery does not equal more realistic.
Diablohead
Member
Was the AI pitting for tires or from damage before the patch? if it was damage I would think that the toggle between cosmetic and sim damage was switched until they fixed it.
Speaking of damage I kind of miss the smoke fumes from the engine when damage is critical, you can thrash your car into walls like mad but no smoke, fumes or even leaks (would be cool to see oil or water leak from a damaged engine)
... do wing mirrors and spoilers fall off and lay on the track any longer? thinking about it I have yet to notice it, another thing forza 4 did back in the day removed on next gen :/
LoveCake
Member
I don't know, tires i think, the same when i did the Indy 200 the other day i overtook a fair few in the pits as i never pitted, i did see some sort of bug mentioned in the Forza forums about only two AI cars being able to pit at once., the cars also pitted when i did the Nurburgring 125 as after the second lap a AI car was a second or so behind me & i saw them on the map go into the pits.
Today on the Daytona i never saw any AI car in the pits at all.
You can knock parts off from other cars, i miss the smoke coming from damaged cars as well.
Is this a trick question?
I didn't mean it to be, lol
SkinnerSw33t
Member
The AI bug seemed gone for me as far as I could tell playing yesterday.
When the heck are these leaderboards getting wiped?
When the heck are these leaderboards getting wiped?
Diablohead
Member
10th is what the update said I think, or 11th
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Oh, OK. I missed that too. Thanks.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I just noticed this too. Maybe the boards are getting wiped now.
I was wondering if/when this would happen. I remember in Forza 2 when they cleared everything for the "rolling start .05 second lap" bug, which I was unintentionally a part of.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Am I going mad or did hiding the UI in photo mode hide the Forza logo before the patch? It's not hidden now when the UI is hidden.
Yeah it came with the content update.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
They have to ruin our fun, the logo can't even be re-positioned FFS.
Stevey
Member
Seems to be back up now
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I was just wondering why Road America and Catalunya (maybe some other tracks too, didn't pay too much attention till now) don't have pre and post race in the pits, it's just the same as it was in 5.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Catalunya has it for me.
Possibly running a no pits varient?
On a different note.
Disappointed in the lack of accuracy of the V8 super cars.
wrong gear ratios, wrong rev limiters and who told T10 that they have lift off oversteer like a 300sl gullwing?
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
TylerDurden4321
Member
Gear ratios seem mostly correct.
In my Holden from FM6:
1st: 2.57 (correct)
2nd: 2.00 (should be 1.99)
3rd: 1.61 (1.60)
4th: 1.35
5th: 1.13 (1.14)
6th: 1.07 (1.00)
Final drive: 3.27 (track dependent in real life, on Bathurst it was 3.15 in 2013)
6th gear is off, I don't know why, but the rest seem ok.
Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something, I don't watch that racing series, you probably know a lot more about it than I do(you're Australian, right?), but I found it hard to believe that they'd get something like gear ratios wrong in the game so I looked up the actual regulations and only found a document from 2013.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
I was refering to 6th gear, yes.
The rev limiters should all be set exactly at 7500rpm. Most do 7750 and the merc touchs 8000.
The Fords base handling is just outright wrong. It handles like a poorly set up MR or even a FF car...