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[billy beane]

What isn't an "attack" on conservative America these days? Also if everyone is "attacking" you, maybe it's for a reason.

 

[Version 3.0]

I realize it's been said, but they're literally siding with comic book villains.

I know I've heard them jokingly described that way, and now it's no longer a joke. There's just no basement with these loonies.

 

[Afrodium]

I will say, having read the issue, that it's not like there just happens to be a group of racists in the issue and conservatives are recognizing themselves in them. The issue is very obviously taking aim at recent conservative talking points and the extremely partisan nature of the United States at the moment. Theres pretty much no way to read the issue and not acknowledge that it's taking aim at conservatives.

That said, there is a serious problem with the Republican Party if their ideology can handily be applied to comic book villains.

 

[mreddie]

Anthony Mackie is a Hydra plant.

Confirmed he was joking...

Uh huh, lame joke.

 

[SamuelSupreme]

I must have misinterpreted the comic. I could have sworn during their training session Wilson in his internal thoughts basically alluded to an attraction between Knight and himself but that it was complicated due to their work situation.......and Didn't they share a kiss shortly after Sam donned the Captain America mantle?

I guess I'm just looking for my new Black Power Couple since everyone and marvel (but me) hated T'Challa and Storm (Which I'll never understand)

 

[Dalek]

I must have misinterpreted the comic. I could have sworn during their training session Wilson in his internal thoughts basically alluded to an attraction between Knight and himself but that it was complicated due to their work situation.......and Didn't they share a kiss shortly after Sam donned the Captain America mantle?

I guess I'm just looking for my new Black Power Couple since everyone and marvel (but me) hated T'Challa and Storm (Which I'll never understand)

I don't believe they ever did. The first encounter of theirs in recent memory that I recall is when he met up with her while she was undercover in that HYDRA city in Remender's run.

 

[Scirrocco]

Just pray no one ever tells Fox News about his 'Snap' Wilson days.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/01/14/retconning-the-snap-wilson-retcon-in-all-new-captain-america/

 

[Romez]

"Keep politics out of comic books" right after he told her Cap punched Hitler in the face hahahhahaa

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Mackie, what are you doing?

 

[SamuelSupreme]

I don't believe they ever did. The first encounter of theirs in recent memory that I recall is when he met up with her while she was undercover in that HYDRA city in Remender's run.

Yeah Bruh they kissed in All New Captain America #1


https://www.google.ca/search?q=Sam+...Bpk5g_95M:&usg=__5SZLnBouXqzufVwMLd8IKFw7Blg=

 

[Frozenprince]

Oh god I'm dying.

 

[Manmademan]

This is easily the best comic I've read all year. no bullshit. every page was fucking gold

 

[Stallion Dan]

I've never liked when comics replace a hero/villain character with another one, but keep the identity.

If gonna kill someone or depower them, let the character be, don't rehash it.

 

[Lashley]

This whole situation is hilarious

 

[Frozenprince]

I've never liked when comics replace a hero/villain character with another one, but keep the identity.

If gonna kill someone or depower them, let the character be, don't rehash it.

Why? Captain America should be a title, just like Batman, and Superman (well maybe not Superman), and every masked hero. That's kind of the point of wearing the mask.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Why? Captain America should be a title, just like Batman, and Superman (well maybe not Superman), and every masked hero. That's kind of the point of wearing the mask.

I don't think every hero is worth being turned into a mantle, but I do agree that it's an amazing aspect of cape comics.

Plus Sam is more popular as Cap than he was as Falcon

 

[Slayven]

I've never liked when comics replace a hero/villain character with another one, but keep the identity.

If gonna kill someone or depower them, let the character be, don't rehash it.

Well you picked the worse character to use as a point. Cap is an official title that has been handed down numerous times.

But I dislike them sharing names when the original character is around see Thor and Spiderman.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Well you picked the worse character to use as a point. Cap is an official title that has been handed down numerous times.

But I dislike them sharing names when the original character is around see Thor and Spiderman.

I can agree with this. Even if Jane Thor is sick. More ways than one

 

[Kaiterra]

I was reading 2008's The Last Defenders a couple months ago and guess who was operating out of Trump Plaza in that comic?

 

[Dalek]

This is easily the best comic I've read all year. no bullshit. every page was fucking gold

I too, loved it. It exceeded my expectations in every way.

 

[akira28]

hey they rented that ballroom fair and square. The Serpents have great credit, and I won't have you disparaging a paying customer. You. Go now.

 

[Frozenprince]

I don't think every hero is worth being turned into a mantle, but I do agree that it's an amazing aspect of cape comics.

Plus Sam is more popular as Cap than he was as Falcon

Every hero shouldn't no, every masked hero should though. Passing of the mantle is the best. I just wish it happened more and was more permanent.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Every hero shouldn't no, every masked hero should though. Passing of the mantle is the best. I just wish it happened more and was more permanent.

Not even then. Nightwing shouldn't be a mantle. Spoiler shouldn't be a mantle. There are a few others as well.

 

[Slayven]

I was reading 2008's The Last Defenders a couple months ago and guess who was operating out of Trump Plaza in that comic?

Fucking love comics

Not even then. Nightwing shouldn't be a mantle. Spoiler shouldn't be a mantle. There are a few others as well.

You mean no one can inherit the Prowler, Shroud, or The Whizzer titles?

 

[Coriolanus]

Not even then. Nightwing shouldn't be a mantle. Spoiler shouldn't be a mantle. There are a few others as well.

Course it should. Can even establish a progression:
First the new recruit will become Robin. Should one prove resistant to crowbars to the head, then one is promoted to Nightwing. Eventually, once the current bearer of the cowl dies from acute lead poisoning or whatever, whoever's currently Nightwing gets the promotion.

Otherwise you got people trying to have a go at it by becoming Azrael, and that never works out.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Fucking love comics


You mean no one can inherit the Prowler, Shroud, or The Whizzer titles?

They can. I'm not saying that there aren't any that can't be inherited, there are just some that I think shouldn't. But if there's a good story around it, by all means go ahead.

Course it should. Can even establish a progression:
First the new recruit will become Robin. Should one prove resistant to crowbars to the head, then one is promoted to Nightwing. Eventually, once the current bearer of the cowl dies from acute lead poisoning or whatever, whoever's currently Nightwing gets the promotion.

Otherwise you got people trying to have a go at it by becoming Azrael, and that never works out.

Nightwing was explicitly DIck's thing. You become Robin and then you go out on your own. You become your own hero/whatever. Or you inherit the cowl. Either way, Nightwing should remain as Dick.

 

[RoninChaos]

ITT, I learned Anthony Mackie is an idiot.

Poppa Doc needs to stay in his fucking lane.

 

[Messofanego]

Am I the only one who prefers when comics and scifi are more... subtle in their criticisms of society? I guess its been a long time since I read comics but those panels all looked really ridiculous, like Captain America is basically fighting Major Trump.

Flying coach? That's a story line?

Batman's next arch villain: Obesity! He must rescue Gotham citizens from high fructose corn syrup, which has been planted into the water supply by Monsanto.

Look at the history of superhero comics. They've always been blunt. And topical. They were used as propaganda during the world wars.

I wouldn't be surprised if there really was an anti-obesity issue.

You'd have to go back to pulp 40s and 50s sci fi adventure like Flash Gordon if you wanted sci fi divorced from reality. Sci fi usually isn't subtle. Sometimes it's allegorical or metaphorical but most people figure out the politics. Like what District 9 is about. What Stalker is about. What Night of the Dead is about. What Dawn of the Dead is about. 70s sci fi was huge into being more relevant to the real world. Soylent Green is...

 

[Coriolanus]

Nightwing was explicitly DIck's thing. You become Robin and then you go out on your own. You become your own hero/whatever. Or you inherit the cowl. Either way, Nightwing should remain as Dick.

Batman was explicitly Bruce's thing. Either way, Dick should become Batman. Damian ain't gon sidekick for nightwing.

 

[Aizu_Itsuko]

First the War on Christmas and now this.

Middle aged rich white christian men just can't catch a break.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Batman was explicitly Bruce's thing. Either way, Dick should become Batman. Damian ain't gon sidekick for nightwing.

But the idea of Batman being a mantle has existed for quite some time now, whereas Nightwing being a mantle has not, unless you count Nitewing. In which case...I mean, that changes a lot of things entirely.

Point is that Bats hasn't been explicitly Bruce's thing since Knightfall and Batman Beyond.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

The writing in that comic book is fucking atrocious, even by comic book standards.

 

[Angelus Errare]

But the idea of Batman being a mantle has existed for quite some time now, whereas Nightwing being a mantle has not, unless you count Nitewing. In which case...I mean, that changes a lot of things entirely.

Point is that Bats hasn't been explicitly Bruce's thing since Knightfall and Batman Beyond.

So basically the only differentiation is time and a story that makes it a mantle. So basically...any and all comicbook superhero personas can become mantles to include Nightwing.

 

[ebullientprism]

Kinda tangential, what happened to Steve Rodgers? Dead or retired or something else?

Also that facebook salt in the OP is amazing.

 

[Htown]

But the idea of Batman being a mantle has existed for quite some time now, whereas Nightwing being a mantle has not, unless you count Nitewing. In which case...I mean, that changes a lot of things entirely.

Point is that Bats hasn't been explicitly Bruce's thing since Knightfall and Batman Beyond.

didn't the superman comics do a Nightwing and Flamebird thing a couple years before the reboot?

I mean, different concept but same name so I guess it's not the same thing.

 

[Dalek]

The writing in that comic book is fucking atrocious, even by comic book standards.

 

[KenzinFive]

Kinda tangential, what happened to Steve Rodgers? Dead or retired or something else?

Also that facebook salt in the OP is amazing.

A villain neutralized his Super Soldier serum and now he's a 90+ year old man, as if he aged in real time from the end of WWII. He still mentors teams, plans missions, and sometimes jumps into the fray, but he handed off the Captain American mantle to Sam. So he's basically retired. Think old man Bruce from Batman Beyond, but not as much of an asshole.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

A villain neutralized his Super Soldier serum and now he's a 90+ year old man, as if he aged in real time from the end of WWII. He still mentors teams, plans missions, and sometimes jumps into the fray, but he handed off the Captain American mantle to Sam. So he's basically retired. Think old man Bruce from Batman Beyond, but not as much of an asshole.

He was an asshole towards the end of Avengers/New Avengers leading into Secret Wars.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

didn't the superman comics do a Nightwing and Flamebird thing a couple years before the reboot?

I mean, different concept but same name so I guess it's not the same thing.

Well Nightwing and Flamebird were originally Kryptonian myths. Who do you think came up with Dick's superhero name?

 

[KenzinFive]

He was an asshole towards the end of Avengers/New Avengers leading into Secret Wars.

Yeah, that's true, but I feel that was more in service of the plot to get to Secret Wars. I still don't understand why he had to go out fighting evil/Superior Iron Man when all of reality was being destroyed in Secret Wars #1.

I guess less of a no-fun-allowed curmudgeon like Bruce was?

 

[mckmas8808]

So, are Fox and Friends admitting that they and conservatives are racists?

The first question is the best question. Why would they even view themselves this way so openly?

 

[mckmas8808]

Yeah came here to post this....

Anthony, no, come on man, you were supposed to be cool. Not supporting Trump and blaming black people for... *sigh* god fucking damnit.

Mackie.......Come on bruh!!!!!!!!!

 

[ebullientprism]

A villain neutralized his Super Soldier serum and now he's a 90+ year old man, as if he aged in real time from the end of WWII. He still mentors teams, plans missions, and sometimes jumps into the fray, but he handed off the Captain American mantle to Sam. So he's basically retired. Think old man Bruce from Batman Beyond, but not as much of an asshole.

Ah ok. Thanks.

 

[besada]

What? That's not what I'm saying at all. Is not having political views expressed everywhere, even in writing on, say, your Starbucks coffee, being 'protected from debate'? I'm just saying there are some things where the debate shouldn't be had and people just want to kick back and enjoy something regardless of who they are and what their views might be.

Then you shouldn't be reading comics, since they've always contained considerable political content. People who believe otherwise clearly don't read comics very often. More to the point, you don't get to decide what issues get tackled in comics. As for people wanting to kick back and enjoy something, regardless of their views, they're welcome to write and create their own, entirely apolitical, comics if they'd like to. But Captain America, in particular, has always had a strong viewpoint, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing it in the comics.

 

[Slayven]

Then you shouldn't be reading comics, since they've always contained considerable political content. People who believe otherwise clearly don't read comics very often. More to the point, you don't get to decide what issues get tackled in comics. As for people wanting to kick back and enjoy something, regardless of their views, they're welcome to write and create their own, entirely apolitical, comics if they'd like to. But Captain America, in particular, has always had a strong viewpoint, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing it in the comics.

If you want Captian America without the commentary, then might i suggest The Fighting American.

Due to a settlement with Marvel, the Fighting American can't be depicted throwing his shield

 

[Dalek]

If you want Captian America without the commentary, then might i suggest The Fighting American.

Due to a settlement with Marvel, the Fighting American can't be depicted throwing his shield

10/10 Slayven post.

 

[Messofanego]

I want to hire Slayven so that everytime I think of anything I can ask, has this been in a comic and then read it.

Slayven is amazing like that. Who needs Google when you got him?

 

[PSqueak]

I was reading 2008's The Last Defenders a couple months ago and guess who was operating out of Trump Plaza in that comic?

"Defenders, Defenestrate!" Is the best battle cry since "Runaways, try not to die!"

 

[Coriolanus]

A villain neutralized his Super Soldier serum and now he's a 90+ year old man, as if he aged in real time from the end of WWII. He still mentors teams, plans missions, and sometimes jumps into the fray, but he handed off the Captain American mantle to Sam. So he's basically retired. Think old man Bruce from Batman Beyond, but not as much of an asshole.

Man, all you had to do to describe current Rogers is say "think Nick Fury, but incompetent".

 

[Dalek]

Man, all you had to do to describe current Rogers is say "think Nick Fury, but incompetent".

Sadly this is true. Hardheaded is also more like it.