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Free Retro Studios (i.e., Screw Metroid Prime 3)

In my honest opinion, Retro Studios has the capability of delivering a first-person shooter to Nintendo that could fill in the void left by Rare. Instead, their skills are being handicapped severely by the physics dictated by fucking Metroid. The first Metroid Prime was good – it resurrected and revolutionized the franchise – but that should have been a one-time deal. No one gives a hoot about Samus these days. In fact, Metroid should either be buried altogether or reserved for the handheld arena.

The Retro guys are CAPABLE of making a great FPS. If they can convert a niche 2D game like Metroid into a fabulous 3D experience, just imagine what they can do with a new FPS franchise that isn’t established on any 2D fundamental.

I’m not buying a Revolution until I hear about a new game from these underrated guys.
 
free metroid (i.e. screw retro studios). we're coming from very different places, but we want the same thing, don't we?
 
No. Metroid Prime is one best game series around. Keep making Metroid games Retro!

Fuck, your run-a-the-mill FPS. There are already like 10 million of them.
 
Fuck it, free them both. If they really love each other, they'll come back. Otherwise, it just wasn't meant to be.

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In my honest opinion, Bungie Studios has the capability of delivering a great first-person shooter. Instead, their skills are being handicapped severely by the physics dictated by fucking Halo. The first Halo was good – it resurrected and revolutionized the franchise – but that should have been a one-time deal. No one gives a hoot about Master Chief these days. In fact, Halo should either be buried altogether or reserved for the PC arena.

The Bungie guys are CAPABLE of making a great FPS. If they can convert a niche 2D game like Marathon into a fabulous 3D experience, just imagine what they can do with a new FPS franchise that isn’t established on any 2D fundamental.

I’m not buying a 360 until I hear about a new game from these guys.
 
I don´t think anyone underrates them... I mean, does anyone think these guys are anything but fucking brilliant? I don´t like that much Metroid games, but they are all about art in gaming, specially first Metroid Prime.

Anyway, I agree, I´d like to see something new instead another Metroid Prime.
 
Matlock said:
In my honest opinion, Bungee has the capability of delivering a great first-person shooter. Instead, their skills are being handicapped severely by the physics dictated by fucking Halo. The first Halo was good – it resurrected and revolutionized the franchise – but that should have been a one-time deal. No one gives a hoot about Master Chief these days. In fact, Halo should either be buried altogether or reserved for the PC arena.

The Bungee guys are CAPABLE of making a great FPS. If they can convert a niche 2D game like Marathon into a fabulous 3D experience, just imagine what they can do with a new FPS franchise that isn’t established on any 2D fundamental.

I’m not buying a 360 until I hear about a new game from these underrated guys.

:lol

Free Bungie! (i.e., Screw Halo 3)
 
Matlock said:
The Bungie guys are CAPABLE of making a great FPS. If they can convert a niche 2D game like Marathon into a fabulous 3D experience, just imagine what they can do with a new FPS franchise that isn’t established on any 2D fundamental.

Marathon was 2D? o_O
 
i don't think anyone underrates them either. but only because i don't think it's possible to underrate developers who've done nothing but defile a classic franchise. this really is the thread where retro fans and sensible people can come to various agreements!
 
Matlock said:
In my honest opinion, Bungie Studios has the capability of delivering a great first-person shooter. Instead, their skills are being handicapped severely by the physics dictated by fucking Halo. The first Halo was good – it resurrected and revolutionized the franchise – but that should have been a one-time deal. No one gives a hoot about Master Chief these days. In fact, Halo should either be buried altogether or reserved for the PC arena.

The Bungie guys are CAPABLE of making a great FPS. If they can convert a niche 2D game like Marathon into a fabulous 3D experience, just imagine what they can do with a new FPS franchise that isn’t established on any 2D fundamental.

I’m not buying a 360 until I hear about a new game from these guys.

There was a Halo before the one that launched for XBox?
 
I, for one, am excited about Prime 3. Especially since this one will almost definitly have free look with the remote. And, hopefully have some online deathmatch action. I mean, the multiplayer in Echoes was decent, and as shown by the Hunters demo, would be even better with free look.
 
VerTiGo said:
No. Metroid Prime is one best game series around. Keep making Metroid games Retro!

Fuck, your run-a-the-mill FPS. There are already like 10 million of them.


So you're saying Perfect Dark is going to be a run-a-the-mill FPS? Black, too? Retro can create an answer to all these games, except they have to waste their time creating morph ball designs and characters with stiff movements.
 
NintendosBooger said:
So you're saying Perfect Dark is going to be a run-a-the-mill FPS? Black, too? Retro can create an answer to all these games, except they have to waste their time creating morph ball designs and characters with stiff movements.

Yes. I've played so many FPSes that I just don't give a fuck about them anymore.

Give me Metroid.

Exploration and kickass boss battles rule over all.
 
while i agree that retro needs to work on their own fresh property, i don't believe that Metroid should be buried or left only to handhelds.

I've always thought Retro could deliver a kickass Half-Life-esque adventure FPS game. Just imagine the possibilities with the new remote controller *swoons*
 
wobedraggled said:
Retro is working on more than MP3, that you can be assured of.

I'm hope that Car Combat gets revived for the Revolution. It looked visually promising for a GameCube game... no idea about the gameplay of course.

I'd say Raven Blade but I never liked the art design and the in-game footage that was revealed looked like utter crap. Of course, they could revamp everything.
 
MP3 is the end of the trilogy so they have plenty of time to make some more games for Rev. Hopefully one will be a FPS.
 
MP3 is the last Prime game, so don't get your panties in a knot...And screw Car Combat, I want RAVEN BLADE! :(
 
VerTiGo said:
I'm hope that Car Combat gets revived for the Revolution. It looked visually promising for a GameCube game... no idea about the gameplay of course.

I'd say Raven Blade but I never liked the art design and the in-game footage that was revealed looked like utter crap. Of course, they could revamp everything.
Akai said:
MP3 is the last Prime game, so don't get your panties in a knot...And screw Car Combat, I want RAVEN BLADE! :(
they're gone, forever. forget about them.
 
Scrow said:
while i agree that retro needs to work on their own fresh property, i don't believe that Metroid should be buried or left only to handhelds.

I've always thought Retro could deliver a kickass Half-Life-esque game. Just imagine the possibilities with the new remote controller *swoons*

I'm kinda annoyed that Nintendo is making so many Metroid games. The Metroid series is easily my favorite and I had to wait eight years before I got a sequel and prequel to it and getting a Metroid game so often these days is kinda lessening the affect of getting these great games. However, Retro and Nintendo said that'd they only create Metroid games now when there's new technology and concepts to be used to enhance gameplay. So, I thinking Metroid Prime 3 will be the last home console Metroid game we'll see for like 3 years., which is a good thing. Yearly sequels suck ballz IMO.
 
wobedraggled said:
Retro is working on more than MP3, that you can be assured of.
No they aren't. Everyone is focused on Metroid Prime 3. They are even hiring more artists and programmers. Everyone there is enthusiastic about MP3. Retro seems to like the Metroid property.
 
Why is it that whenever someone, ANYONE, talks somewhat negatively about Metroid, the inevitable Nintendrone comes along and brings up Halo?

Metroid's not that fun.

OMGZ HALO IZ STOOPID!!11!

Just be sure to leave this baggage in the current generation, kthxbye.
 
Metroid Prime 3 is definitely going to be one of the early highlight games for the Revolution. It's been announced to be in development from very early on, and since it's the Revolution game we've gotten visuals on (running on GCN hardware of course), it'd be wise to expect it at launch. I wouldn't be surprised if Retro was dedicating all its resources to it.
 
Odysseus said:
Why is it that whenever someone, ANYONE, talks somewhat negatively about Metroid, the inevitable Nintendrone comes along and brings up Halo?

Metroid's not that fun.

OMGZ HALO IZ STOOPID!!11!

Just be sure to leave this baggage in the current generation, kthxbye.
i think you missed the point of matlock's post...
 
Gamerankings dot com.

I will never, ever understand the hate for the Prime series. If you don't like it, play either Metroid Fusion or Metroid Zero Mission (both awesome games also) on a Game Boy Player. As others have said, if you want an FPS, go play one of the bajillion out there.

Super to Prime was a phenomenal transition from 2D to 3D. Yeah, it's different, but it's still fantastic.

As much as I love Metroid, I also am very interested to see what else Retro can do, so after Prime 3 I really do hope they do something like resurrect Raven Blade (doubt it though).

Also, remember Metroid Dread is 2D.
 
Ruzbeh said:
How do you guys know Metroid Prime 3 is the last Metroid Prime game?

Retro said that it will end the Prime storyline. It's a trilogy.

They'll probably create another Metroid game but it won't have "Prime" in the title.

Was Metroid Dread ever proved to be even real?

http://www.gamersmark.com/news/2005/08/1/6438

"As for details regarding the game itself, Metroid Prime 3 will end the "Prime" trilogy as it the story is "told against the backdrop of an epic struggle." It is expected that Space Pirates will play a role in the game once again, and perhaps, yet another enemy. Continuing the trademark of the previous two Prime games, the Phazon toxin is expected to play a heavy role."
 
Scrow said:
i think you missed the point of matlock's post...

I don't even care what the point is. Seeing Halo and/or Bungie in every single Metroid thread is three years too old. And the reverse is also true.
 
Odysseus said:
I don't even care what the point is. Seeing Halo and/or Bungie in every single Metroid thread is three years too old. And the reverse is also true.

You really missed the point.
 
If Retro wants to continue working on the Metroid series, then that's fine with me. After all, their first two games have been nothing short of greatness, and as long as their future titles that involve the word "Metroid" don't suck, then I think Nintendo should let them continue making Metroid games as long as the content is consistently new and refreshing each installment (i.e., it introduces some new things in each title).

With that said, I would also hope that Retro becomes big enough one day (if they aren't already) to be able to do multiple projects at once... I'd like to see them make an RPG (maybe resurrect that Raven Blade "demo"?) alongside Metroid Prime 3 for the Revolution's launch, if not sometime after.
 
God's Hand said:
No they aren't. Everyone is focused on Metroid Prime 3. They are even hiring more artists and programmers. Everyone there is enthusiastic about MP3. Retro seems to like the Metroid property.


So let me guess you know someone who knows someone who works for Retro and you've been told what the Rev specs are right??? :lol
 
I think you missed my point, too.



Meh. At any rate, I agree with the original poster, Retro is obviously talented but Metroid is a total bore.

Free Retro.
 
Odysseus said:
I think you missed my point, too.



Meh. At any rate, I agree with the original poster, Retro is obviously talented but Metroid is a total bore.

Free Retro.

You didn't have a point. The only reason I brought up Halo in comparison is because it's about the only first-party FPS franchise I could think of with a lengthy history. Read the first post, then read the same logic when it comes to mine--it's all to point out how silly it is. :)
 
Bluemercury said:
So let me guess you know someone who knows someone who works for Retro and you've been told what the Rev specs are right??? :lol
i don't know shit about inside info, but I agree with God's Hand. I highly doubt Retro are working on more than MP3 at this point.

How large is their team?

if you look under the Games section at http://www.retrostudios.com/ they even mention that they're working on a new Prime game for Rev.

"We are now very excited to start work on an all new METROID PRIME for Nintendos next generation console."

certainly not concrete evidence that they are in fact only working on one game, but at this point there's no reason to suspect they're working on anything other than MP3.
 
Scrow said:
i don't know shit about inside info, but I agree with God's Hand. I highly doubt Retro are working on more than MP3 at this point.

How large is their team?

Well he's the one who keep saying that Revolution will be much worse than xbox360.....heck i even believe that rev will be inferior but he claims that will be "much" worse tech wise, which i really doubt....
 
Well he's the one who keep saying that Revolution will be much worse than xbox360.....heck i even believe that rev will be inferior but he claims that will be "much" worse tech wise, which i really doubt....

I don't think Nintendo partnered with IBM and ATI to have a console that was much inferior than the competition in terms of graphical capabilities... I'm not in the know (nor would I ever pretend that I was, unlike certain other people), so to say, but I think we'll be pleasantly surprised when Nintendo unveils the console's final specifications (at least, I hope)...
 
Bluemercury said:
Well he's the one who keep saying that Revolution will be much worse than xbox360.....heck i even believe that rev will be inferior but he claims that will be "much" worse tech wise, which i really doubt....
Ya know, who's to say? We really don't know how powerful the Revolution will be...

I know one thing, though, the DS has proven to Nintendo that the most powerful hardware is not required to deliver a unique experience with top sales. The DS is cheap hardware, yet it's doing very well for them. I don't think Nintendo wishes to compete with the other two companies on that front anymore. It seems very possible to me that the Revolution really will only represent a mild upgrade over Gamecube.

Taking the DS approach may not be a bad thing for them.
 
While I think Retro definitely should branch out and do more, I think it shouldn't be at the expense of Metroid Prime 3.

From a practical standpoint, MP3 desperately needs to come out at the Revolution launch or shortly thereafter, to really showcase the graphical capabilities of the console as well as the new control scheme's possibilities. It will also help mitigate the whole "kiddy" image associated with new Nintendo hardware.

However, after MP3 I think they should make their own FPS and build a brand new franchise.
 
VerTiGo said:
I don't see why Retro would or wouldn't be able to be working on another game aside from Metroid Prime 3.
"would or wouldn't"? huh? which one is it?

anyway, afaik (which isn't much) i don't think they're a large team. I believe they wouldn't have the human resources to work on more than one game at a time.

Tamashii said:
I don't think Nintendo partnered with IBM and ATI to have a console that was much inferior than the competition in terms of graphical capabilities... I'm not in the know (nor would I ever pretend that I was, unlike certain other people), so to say, but I think we'll be pleasantly surprised when Nintendo unveils the console's final specifications (at least, I hope)...
"You will say wow."
 
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