Simon Belmont
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Fuck you, Rick Berman. Jonathan Frakes wants to direct Star Trek 3
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IISANDERII
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Insurrection was bad but still better than Into Darkness imo so I'd welcome him.
But the way things are going, I'd be surprised if there's a Trek film that'd be as good as First Contact within my lifetime.
But the way things are going, I'd be surprised if there's a Trek film that'd be as good as First Contact within my lifetime.
Avid Reading Horse
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SG-1 avatar + criticizes DS9 = Not my friend no siree bob.
Anyway, Frakes is washed up, of course he'd love to get his hands on a big budget Hollywood blockbuster. Realistically if he wants to regain some relevance he should probably ask Wil Wheaton to score him a Big Bang Theory cameo or something.
Anyway, Frakes is washed up, of course he'd love to get his hands on a big budget Hollywood blockbuster. Realistically if he wants to regain some relevance he should probably ask Wil Wheaton to score him a Big Bang Theory cameo or something.
Frakes has grown into a pretty good director over the years, but I'm still voting Edgar Wright, because Wright has the clout and talent to refuse to direct Orci's shitty screenplay if it's as terrible as every single other thing Orci's ever written. Frakes would probably have to just accept whatever he's given.
lastplayed
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Escape Goat
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Bobby Roberts
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I was gonna say something but now I don't have to. Thanks guys. 
Tal Shiar Agent
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RDM is a hack who consistently writes himself into a corner and pulls gods out of his ass to save himself.
Give him a single episode to write and he'll do great. But he can't run a show for more than a few seasons before it all goes to hell.
The only good parts of DS9 were the explorations of Klingon culture.
Give him a single episode to write and he'll do great. But he can't run a show for more than a few seasons before it all goes to hell.
The only good parts of DS9 were the explorations of Klingon culture.
googleplex
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I've never read something so wrong in my life. DS9 is the best Star trek and some of the best Sci-fi that has ever graced television.
Did we watch the same Deep Space Nine!?
PlayALLtheGames
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You are insane if you think DS9 wasn't amazing trek.
DS9, specially post season 2 was amazing. Voyager had some real stinker episodes, but there were a lot of really good story arcs too.
I'd love to see Jonathan given a chance.
He certainly can't do worse than the idiot who did the reboot (though into darkness wasn't as terrible).
It takes a brave man to double down on DS9 hate in a Star Trek thread.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Both series had a few good episodes and some arcs I enjoyed (Blink of an Eye is one of my favorite Trek episodes for example), but overall they were mediocre at best. The last season of DS9 was a complete train wreck. It didn't feel like Star Trek anymore.
I can't even recall specific DS9 episode names because it left such a bad taste in my mouth.
I can't even recall specific DS9 episode names because it left such a bad taste in my mouth.
On topic - I'd be okay with Frakes directing. Yeah Insurrection was kind of bad, but First Contact is one of the best Trek movies (and the only good TNG movie).
Slightly off topic. DS9 was amazing. Voyager was a great premise that was never utilized right. It felt like the show had 4 seasons of good writing that got stretched out to 7 seasons with a bunch of filler episodes. Voyager also has an absolutely awful final episode.
Slightly off topic. DS9 was amazing. Voyager was a great premise that was never utilized right. It felt like the show had 4 seasons of good writing that got stretched out to 7 seasons with a bunch of filler episodes. Voyager also has an absolutely awful final episode.
googleplex
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The fuck...
Pale moon light
Rock and shores
Duet
One little ship
Times children
Sons and Daughters
And the list goes on and on!
All magnificent stories without klingons.
Avid Reading Horse
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But SG-1 was a decent if uninspired TNG-ish show for 4-5 seasons, and a tired suckfest for another 5-6 with two of the worst spinoffs of all time.
This man is wise.
Succinct Verbosity
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I duno. If DS9 was made today -with it's various religious themes and exploration of terrorism- it would have been far more poignant than a lot of other post 9-11 shows.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Maybe. If Ronald D. Moore wasn't involved.
If you read Michael Pillars book about the writing of Insurrection. There was no director on earth who could have salvaged that film.
Bobby Roberts
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Seriously, they were already this close to getting Joe Cornish (Attack the Block) before Orci sabotaged that shit with his powermove.
Just call Cornish back. Get moving.
Just call Cornish back. Get moving.
davepoobond
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No thanks to Frakes.
Get nimoy to do it
And stop orci from writing it
Get nimoy to do it
And stop orci from writing it
Wasn't Insurrection originally written as a Dominion War movie or something?
There's a book about it??
I'm googling but I can't find a title or anything. Link please?
BobTheFork
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In a vacuum, it would be the best movie but as a fan of Star Trek, it really really sucked.
It's an unreleased book, the studio wouldn't allow it's release. But it's available for free online.
It's called Fade In. http://pineapples101.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/fade-in-mid-res.pdf
Warning: if you like Patrick Stewart he doesn't come across that well in it. He's not awful or anything like that but ultimately some of his ideas led to the mess.
It's a very interesting insight on how fucking impossible it is to write a big studio movie especially a franchise.
alexandros
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I'm completely on board with this, I think Frakes will do an excellent job.
alexandros
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I like you.
Insurrection was a boring - really boring - episode of TNG. Like, the kind you don't even bother keeping on as background noise while you do something else.
To be honest, I really enjoyed the JJ Abrams movies. I really think certain plot elements of Into Darkness were forced in by people above him, so I don't really fault him for that. I don't even know who else I'd want to direct it. Jon Favreau? He can probably squeeze some brilliant Kirk moments out of the movie.
To be honest, I really enjoyed the JJ Abrams movies. I really think certain plot elements of Into Darkness were forced in by people above him, so I don't really fault him for that. I don't even know who else I'd want to direct it. Jon Favreau? He can probably squeeze some brilliant Kirk moments out of the movie.
Exterminieren
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God, Orci is just the world's worst fucking person.
Thank you for this. I'm looking forward to digging into it later.
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I really want this
he was the best damn thing about that show.
Extra Sauce
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Directed First Contact and Insurrection
lol
GentlemanCrow
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Why not just a fair swap of directors?
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