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[SouthernDragon]

I, for one, like the pacing. I have little patience for anime these days, and if doesn't move quickly, I'm gone.

 

[Error]

honestly I think the pacing is because they want to blow through all this stuff quickly, and catch up to the point where the original series diverged from the manga a lot sooner.

is this gonna be 51 episodes long?

 

[Masked Man]

Word on the street is 51 episodes. I'm new to anime, though, so I dunno if that is set in stone or not.

 

[GaimeGuy]

honestly I think the pacing is because they want to blow through all this stuff quickly, and catch up to the point where the original series diverged from the manga a lot sooner.

is this gonna be 51 episodes long?

yes.

 

[duckroll]

Guys, I have a theory about Edward Elric, I don't know if it's true, so sorry in advance if it's a spoiler. I think that Ed is lying to everyone that he lost his arm to bring Al back. Why? Because it's obvious he still has his arm and that the "automail" hand is just a metal glove he's wearing. I think Winry is in on it too.

I have proof too...

 

[Tathanen]

:O :O :O :O :O

 

[Zoe]

Took me a few times to get it :lol

 

[Talamius]

 

[SouthernDragon]

oops
:lol

 

[Masked Man]

Well done, duckroll. :lol :lol

 

[flintstryker]

I read that Shisen Sub has gotten a C&D here :

Dear Shinsen Subs,

FUNimation has acquired extensive production and distribution rights for Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

Any unauthorized production, reproduction or distribution of this series, is a violation of our rights. Such violations include the creation of derivative works (translations, subtitles (.ssa, .ass, .srt, etc.) and fansubs) and ANY unauthorized reproduction or distribution of translations, subtitles, fansubs OR the RAW media, via direct downloading, uploading, file serving/swapping, IRC, streaming, stream embedding (from YouTube, Megavideo, Veoh, etc.), torrent seeding, torrent tracking, torrent linking, other linking, link aggregating or any similar activities. Basically you can’t post the fansub because that is a violation to the rights granted to FUNimation.

What this means is that you do not have permission to fansub or distribute, and I regret to inform you that you are violating copyright.


Your group was not singled out. We are sending every fansub group this notice at the same time.

FUNimation has English subtitled episodes to view online at FUNimation.com/video and we will be offering Download to Own digital episodes very soon.


Please let me know if you have any questions.

The following is a standard DMCA notification.

April 21, 2009

-Email here-

Shinsen-subs.org

Shinsen Subs


RE: Copyright Infringement

In compliance with relevant federal copyright law, I submit the following:

I hereby certify, under penalty of perjury, that the following information is accurate to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I am an employee of FUNimation Entertainment. I am authorized to act on behalf of FUNimation Entertainment with respect to the matters discussed herein.

FUNimation is a company engaged in the production and distribution of animated motion pictures. We own or control various exclusive copyrights and trademarks related to the animated motion pictures known as Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (collectively referred to as the "Properties"). FUNimation is the owner of certain exclusive rights in and to the Properties throughout the United States. Specifically, FUNimation is the exclusive licensee for production and distribution of home videos, DVDs, and other home video formats and devices.

Our investigations have led us to have a good faith belief that the above referenced site is being used for the unauthorized copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving/swapping, streaming, stream embedding, torrent seeding, torrent tracking, torrent linking, other linking, link aggregating or any similar activities) of digital files embodying the Properties. The use of the Properties in this manner is NOT authorized by FUNimation Entertainment and is a violation of FUNimation's intellectual property rights, including its rights under the Copyright Act. Infringing materials can be found at the following URLs:*edit out link to torrents*


FUNimation Entertainment hereby demands that you expeditiously disable all access to said infringing materials.


If you should require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me by email at Legal2@funimation.com<mailto:Legal2@funimation.com>. The physical and mailing address of FUNimation Entertainment is 1200 Lakeside Parkway, Bldg 1, Flower Mound, TX, 75028. Please contact me immediately if this notification is not in substantial compliance with the requirements of the DMCA, or if some other problem arises with respect to our request. I would also request notification of your compliance with our request.

Sincerely,

/s/ Lance Heiskell

FUNimation Entertainment

Sure we'll remove the torrents from the tracker. Doesn't mean we have to stop subbing it. We aren't an American based fansub group. I'm not particularly keen on giving into someone’s laws if we aren't really even on their soil. I think it’s silly we're getting C&D'ed yet again by Funimation. Anyhow, If Funimations laws and reach extends more so than the President of the United States, then we're all doomed. So, who wants to host our files on another tracker or torrent site? Let us know. Cause we aren't gonna stop subbing.

Hey, at least this isn't a death threat like ADV used to send us. Wow, weren’t they the classiest group of assholes I ever did meet?

 

[SouthernDragon]

Now that anime/manga companies are doing a decent job in this instance, subbers can go fuck themselves.

Free professionally subbed episodes mere days after their release in Japan?

Yes, please.

 

[Masked Man]

Wow, that's surprising! I'm not complaining... So long as they issue the Download-to-Own versions quickly, that is. The nice thing about torrents--in theory, of course--is the immediacy. Instead of waiting until Thursday, one could--in theory--watch the episodes on Sunday only hours after they are broadcast in Japan.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I don't wanna sound like an ingrate to FUNimation, but they really should put the episodes in their Youtube channel.

 

[Ifrit]

Guys, I have a theory about Edward Elric, I don't know if it's true, so sorry in advance if it's a spoiler. I think that Ed is lying to everyone that he lost his arm to bring Al back. Why? Because it's obvious he still has his arm and that the "automail" hand is just a metal glove he's wearing. I think Winry is in on it too.

I have proof too...

:lol :lol :lol

Also, I just realized Regulus Tera has the best avatar ever

 

[duckroll]

Wow, that's surprising! I'm not complaining... So long as they issue the Download-to-Own versions quickly, that is. The nice thing about torrents--in theory, of course--is the immediacy. Instead of waiting until Thursday, one could--in theory--watch the episodes on Sunday only hours after they are broadcast in Japan.

That same logic can be used to justify just about any sort of piracy, from games to movies. If a movie is opening in the US a week before it does here, it doesn't make it right for anyone to download a bootleg cam or screener. Anyway, let's not turn this into a piracy debate, and focus on the real issue at hand here. When will they reveal the truth behind Ed's arm? I really can't wait.

 

[Metroid Killer]

You know duckroll, maybe you should just limit each episode view to 5 times instead of 10. You are gonna end up picking this show apart :lol

 

[GaimeGuy]

You know duckroll, maybe you should just limit each episode view to 5 times instead of 10. You are gonna end up picking this show apart :lol

Trust me: It's too late for him :lol

Spoiler

And for me

 

[McLovin]

I read that Shisen Sub has gotten a C&D here :

Fullmetal Fans Flood FUNimation Video Portal
Posted Monday, April 13, 2009 | ShareThis
Thank you to all of you for your support of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood on the FUNimation video portal. Due to the overwhelming response from fans to view the first legal streaming episode of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, our bandwidth was taxed and unfortunately, may cause longer than expected buffering of the episode.

We are working on resolving this issue and expect to have the solution in place soon. In the meantime, please bear with us as we continue to work on bringing the best online video viewing experience.

Well I guess I'm SOL

 

[M.Bluth]

I read that Shisen Sub has gotten a C&D here :

Oh nooooooooooo!

There's no legal way to watch the show over here

edit: lol I didn't read the last bit

 

[GaimeGuy]

I thought thye did a good job condensing lior into one ep.

 

[Masked Man]

Just saw pictures from today's episode.

Looks AWESOME. :O

 

[Sax Russel]

Good episode was good

Heh heh.. The Alchemists.

 

[Orin GA]

Spoiler

Everytime I see Nina Chimera It still freaks me the fuck out.

 

[EviLore]

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENA



Anyway, continues to be a major improvement over the original series.

 

[Tamanon]

Spoiler

Everytime I see Nina Chimera It still freaks me the fuck out.

It was so sad in the original series when he figured it out

 

[Fireblend]

Amazing episode. I'm starting to wish episodes were 1 hour long, though.

 

[Guled]

man, this episode was awesome

 

[TheOddOne]

ep 4 out

 

[Orin GA]

ep 4 out

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[TheOddOne]

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[Robobandit]

Still sad.. as always.


I think this represents the first major divergence from the original series

Spoiler

Scar kills Tucker and puts Nina out of her misery instead of tucker surviving and being a chimera himself later on

 

[Regulus Tera]

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENA



Anyway, continues to be a major improvement over the original series.

I didn't get as attached to

Spoiler

Nina

this time around, but when the shit hits the fan the direction makes up completely for it.

I prefer a lot to the original, and I'd say it was the best episode of the new series so far.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Still sad.. as always.


I think this represents the first major divergence from the original series

Spoiler

Scar kills Tucker and puts Nina out of her misery instead of tucker surviving and being a chimera himself later on

Yeah,

Spoiler

That's how it went in the manga, too. Scar breaks into Tucker's estate, killing the two guards, and then kills Tucker and Nina.

They used the same guy as in FMA1 to voice Tucker :O

 

[Danielsan]

I had forgotten how messed up this part in the series was.I think it was more powerful in the previous anime series but perhaps that was because I didn't know what was about to happen back then.

Btw, I hate all the typical anime silliness+shitty drawing that is randomly injected in the episodes. I don't remember that shit being in the original, though my memory may be failing me.

 

[Masked Man]

I agree: this episode was perhaps the wrong place to utilize some of that silliness, but it was overall a good episode. I think it was a little more powerful in the first one, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Haly]

Enjoyed the episode, mostly, Scar's scar looks a little too plain though, like a tan line.

The next episode would be what,

Spoiler

Ed and Al meeting Scar, and then going back to Resembool? Or can they fit the trip there and back again in one episode?

 

[GaimeGuy]

The silliness portions have been almost all directly ripped from the manga so far.

 

[Danielsan]

The silliness portions have been almost all directly ripped from the manga so far.

Never read the manga but I personally don't care for it. Some silliness every now and then is fine but this is just too much and often poorly timed as well.

 

[Kreed]

Other than

Spoiler

the Mines/Train battle/Loki

becoming a mere foot note at the beginning and a few minor differences from the manga, this episode was great and it was nice to see

Spoiler

Tucker getting killed like he was supposed to vs turning himself into a Chimera from the first series.

.

Never read the manga but I personally don't care for it. Some silliness every now and then is fine but this is just too much and often poorly timed as well.

The series is supposed to be more faithful to the manga so may as well get used to it now. Although the silly faces do stand out more thanks to them being animated, I thought they were fine for this episode since they were limited to the more "playful scenes".

 

[Blader]

Never read the manga but I personally don't care for it. Some silliness every now and then is fine but this is just too much and often poorly timed as well.

I haven't read the manga or seen Brotherhood yet, but, imo, the show could use a little more silliness. I liked the original FMA anime, but if I had one big complaint about it, it was that it became very dark and angsty as the show went on. Not that I think FMA should be played for laughs all the time, but I think it could stand to have a bit more levity infused into the show.

 

[Danielsan]

I haven't read the manga or seen Brotherhood yet, but, imo, the show could use a little more silliness. I liked the original FMA anime, but if I had one big complaint about it, it was that it became very dark and angsty as the show went on. Not that I think FMA should be played for laughs all the time, but I think it could stand to have a bit more levity infused into the show.

I actually liked how it became darker and darker as it went on, but then again I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.

I thought the story went to some very powerful places (

Spoiler

Huges

) and I wouldn't like to see such powerful scenes undermined by unnecessary comic relief.

 

[LowParry]

Is there a way to watch this in high def? Funimation seems to be at some odd resolution.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I don't understand why people are complaining: The comic relief scenes were clearly separate from the serious scenes in this ep. :/

Some of you people are being critical of the dumbest things.

"Oh god how could they have nina and Alexander playing with Ed and Al? That takes away from the seriousness of everything!"


What?

 

[Koshiba]

There's something I really love about the animation and song for the Opening theme. Anyway, good episode. They're getting through stuff a bit fast but that's to be expected.

 

[GaimeGuy]

There's something I really love about the animation and song for the Opening theme. Anyway, good episode. They're getting through stuff a bit fast but that's to be expected.

Actually, they're really not moving at a super ridiculous pace.

The only major pacing change so far has been in the condensing of Lior from 2 eps to 1 ep. Everything else has been mostly done by completely cutting filler content.

Basically, they've covered in eps 2-4 of brotherhood the equivalent of eps 1-7 and ep 9 in FMA1 as folllows:

Episodes 1+2 of FMA 1 = Episode 3 of Brotherhood (Lior).

Episode 3 of FMA 1 = Episode 2 of Brotherhood (Flashback to human transmutation)

Episode 4 of FMA 1 = Majihal filler content not in the manga or Brotherhood

Episode 5 of FMA 1 = train fight. While it occurs in the manga (in a different context), it isn't important to the overall plot. Cut

Episode 6 of FMA 1 = 75% alchemy exam, 25% tucker + nina. The alchemy exam portion (mostly filler, and completely anime-original) was cut, and the manga-version of the alchemy exam shows up in Brotherhood in a few minutes at the end of Ep 2. The Tucker + Nina introduction occurs in episode 4 of Brotherhood.

Episode 7 of FMA 1 = Ep 4 of FMA Brotherhood. (Tucker's estate + scar's introduction. Interesting note: about a difference between Brotherhood and the manga:

Spoiler

We don't see the fight between Gram and Scar. In fact, Gram's death is never shown, only mentioned by Mustang and Hughes in Central, IIRC. We only see Gram in Ishval flashbacks in the manga

)

Episode 9 of FMA 1 = Youswell mines. It occurs in a different contex and earlier in the manga, but, like the train fight, isn't important to the overall plot. Cut and reduced to a footnote at the beginning of Episode 4 of Brotherhood.





In summary, we've seen:
-Lior condensed from 2 eps to 1 ep (1 ep cut overall)
-Two unnecessary episodes cut (Youswell + Train) (3 eps cut overall)
-Tucker + Nina condensed by 20% to one ep, rather than 1.25 eps. (3.25 eps cut)
-Transmuation flashback condensed by a few minutes, with those few minutes filled up with the alchemy exam.
-0.75 of an episode of filler alchemy exam content cut. (combined with the above condensation of the transmutation flashback, this makes for 4 eps cut)
-One completely filler episode cut (Majihal) (5 eps cut overall)


so, eps 1-7,9 of FMA1 become eps 2-4 of FMA2. Hooray!

 

[Masked Man]

I like the pacing, too. Also, two things when rewatching Ep. 3 and 4.

1) The whole "backwards arm" thing is because we're getting a mirror image reflected in Rose's eyes. (Y'know, barring the mistake in the subtitle later on, lol.)

2) I take back what I said about the silliness. It fit wonderfully.

 

[watervengeance]

Guys, I have a theory about Edward Elric, I don't know if it's true, so sorry in advance if it's a spoiler. I think that Ed is lying to everyone that he lost his arm to bring Al back. Why? Because it's obvious he still has his arm and that the "automail" hand is just a metal glove he's wearing. I think Winry is in on it too.

I have proof too...

Um, I feel stupid, but I don't get it.

 

[LaneDS]

Um, I feel stupid, but I don't get it.

If you look closely, he's got skin on his right arm, which should be all automail.

 

[slayn]

Haven't seen 4 yet, but the amount of silliness thus far, while I don't like it, doesn't seem any different than the first anime. I remember not liking it in that one too.

I don't think it would be better if the series was all serious all the time, but I just don't find the scenes funny... at all...

So mostly I just roll my eyes and wait for the next 'real' portion to start. And accept it as a necessary evil for the action scenes to be more high budget. Have to save money where you can.