Watched the 2nd episode and I'm still liking what I'm seeing. The pacing is surprisingly fast but I'm not complaining.
Cloudy said:
This seems like a cash-grab to me. The art/animation looks lame compared to the original (or maybe I'm just being nostalgic) and the BG music is nowhere close. I like that some scenes are being fleshed out but this is still a huge MEH so far IMO..
Imo the quality of the art and animation is definitely a lot better this time around. The music is also good but since the original had such an exceptional OST it's pretty hard to top.
I liked the second episode much more than the first. Music was great, dunno why people are ragging on it. Nothing as good as that really sad tune that repeated in the original though
I don't mind that it's going so fast, but I'm starting to think that the definitive experience might be watching the first half of the first series and then switching into this once you get to the point it branches off =P I assume they won't go this fast through the later chapters.
Watched the 2nd episode and I'm still liking what I'm seeing. The pacing is surprisingly fast but I'm not complaining.
Imo the quality of the art and animation is definitely a lot better this time around. The music is also good but since the original had such an exceptional OST it's pretty hard to top.
No, it definitely is a cash grab. There is no other reason for it to exist. (Not that I disapprove, more money to Bones the better)
The difference is, they put a fresh new team at work on it and are treating it like something new for the most part, so it avoids feeling like a cynical, cheap and re-heated version of the first series.
Yeah Brothers was the tune that pretty much defined the original series. Still don't have anything like that for this one but its still early and what I've heard so far is good.
I don't mind that it's going so fast, but I'm starting to think that the definitive experience might be watching the first half of the first series and then switching into this once you get to the point it branches off
Yeah Brothers was the tune that pretty much defined the original series. Still don't have anything like that for this one but its still early and what I've heard so far is good.
compared to the first, the human transmutation was less violent.
Where is my dark skinned Rose?
(just being nostalgic :S then again it creates diversity in the culture of FMA universe)
No, it definitely is a cash grab. There is no other reason for it to exist. (Not that I disapprove, more money to Bones the better)
The difference is, they put a fresh new team at work on it and are treating it like something new for the most part, so it avoids feeling like a cynical, cheap and re-heated version of the first series.
But they are doing it right this time, which means they are doing it for the money, and doing it right for the fans, which they didn't really have to do.
compared to the first, the human transmutation was less violent.
Where is my dark skinned Rose?
(just being nostalgic :S then again it creates diversity in the culture of FMA universe)
Less violent? In the first series all that happened was Al went glowy and disappeared while parts of Ed's leg went kind of glowy (and you didn't even see the point when it actually came off, it was just gone). Here you got to see them
quite literally ripped to shreds. In Ed's case multiple times. And the aftermath was also decidedly more macabre, between Ed's bandaged bleeding stump and his sort of broken depressed look in that wheelchair.
As for "diversity," uhhh, I'm pretty sure they're going to take care of that. Plus it actually makes sense for Rose to not really be dark-skinned. The first series portrayed Lior as a conquered desert territory, but in truth it really is part of Amestris, which is a predominantly white nation (as established by the fact that dark-skinned Ishbalans are immediately recognizable as such due largely to their skin tone). It stands to reason for Amestrians to be portrayed as such.
Anyway, this second episode, especially the first half of it, seemed to complement the first anime's take on the backstory. Basically saying
ok, we already went really in-depth about their mother and the boys' feelings for her, everyone knows and understands that, so instead we can focus on the transmutation, what Ed sees, and all the aftermath of that
. Personally I think that's definitely the best way to handle it this time around. It not only covers the same ground without feeling terribly redundant, but it goes well out of its way to highlight the ways in which this series is different. Which is probably extra important to do now because it looks like the next episode or two are going to be very very very familiar, indeed.
Didn't know it was really moving that quickly! :O That said, the scene is alluded to / partially shown in the intro, but I would really like to see a full version with this absolutely gorgeous and fluid animation that the series is already flaunting.
Yeah I felt the same really. I stated earlier in the thread that it will be weird to watch it without Oshima's music, but reflecting back on it I realised that outside of a few key moment songs such as Brothers or Tsuioku
(think younger brothers at mother's grave in ep 2 of FMA)
or the countless songs played on the original Brothers theme song, Oshima didn't necessarily create an outstanding soundtrack.
So far I'd say that Akira Senju is doing a fine job. There have been some brilliant songs on first listen and I'd certainly enjoy going back and listening to them once again. I never watched Red Garden, which by all accounts sounds like his "opus" of sorts, but it'll be interesting to see how he takes the series from now on till the end. Call me mad, but I've always come from a background where music is as an important medium as visuals in terms of a final product. Most of my favourite anime have always had brilliant music backing them.
Music: I didn't notice the music in the original get really good until late in the series. Around the time Envy and Pride show up is when the music starts getting really dramatic. That's if I remember it correctly. The new soundtrack sounds fitting for the pacing and content IMO. It's still an introduction phase, so there's no tension really that needs the really dramatic pieces yet.
Animation: I thought it was better. The original wasn't bad, but I like the animation better. Maybe not animation so much as cinematography, actually. I just remember I don't like the new hand-clapping animation. It looks a bit less convincing than in the original series, which had "impact". But the scene cuts are great IMO.
There's a lot of story left. It may be a cash grab, but with the way the manga is going, I think a lot of us will be extremely pleased by the way this series wraps up compared to the way the original did. There is just so much more meat in the manga that the original anime missed. I especially hope we get the more cerebral, fleshed-out Scar and not the angry brute we got in the first series.
The Xing and Xerxes stuff should also add way more to explaining the FMA universe than the original series bothered to explore.
I think the manga touches on the "science" of alchemy more, whereas the original series focused heavily on ethics more than anything. I disagreed with the idea of a reboot, at first, but after reading the manga and seeing the effort being put into the reboot, I'm all for it. PEACE.
Yeah Brothers was the tune that pretty much defined the original series. Still don't have anything like that for this one but its still early and what I've heard so far is good.
. =/ Truly one of the greatest themes I have heard in all of music.
MetatronM said:
Anyway, this second episode, especially the first half of it, seemed to complement the first anime's take on the backstory. Basically saying
ok, we already went really in-depth about their mother and the boys' feelings for her, everyone knows and understands that, so instead we can focus on the transmutation, what Ed sees, and all the aftermath of that
. Personally I think that's definitely the best way to handle it this time around. It not only covers the same ground without feeling terribly redundant, but it goes well out of its way to highlight the ways in which this series is different. Which is probably extra important to do now because it looks like the next episode or two are going to be very very very familiar, indeed.
That's true. The power of flashback! Wow, that could be a really powerful scene.
speedpop said:
Yeah I felt the same really. I stated earlier in the thread that it will be weird to watch it without Oshima's music, but reflecting back on it I realised that outside of a few key moment songs such as Brothers or Tsuioku
(think younger brothers at mother's grave in ep 2 of FMA)
or the countless songs played on the original Brothers theme song, Oshima didn't necessarily create an outstanding soundtrack.
So far I'd say that Akira Senju is doing a fine job. There have been some brilliant songs on first listen and I'd certainly enjoy going back and listening to them once again. I never watched Red Garden, which by all accounts sounds like his "opus" of sorts, but it'll be interesting to see how he takes the series from now on till the end. Call me mad, but I've always come from a background where music is as an important medium as visuals in terms of a final product. Most of my favourite anime have always had brilliant music backing them.
Just had to quote this because you mentioned the absolutely gorgeous "Tsuioku" <3 Honestly, I remember so much of the music: "Kiro," "Toukakoukan," "Gairo," "Fukai Mori / Dante," "Aishou," and--of course--"Brothers."
I agree with you about the importance of music, and I liked what Senju did with the first episode for the most part (so much clarinet!). Maybe it's just my orchestral bias. ;P
This seems like a cash-grab to me. The art/animation looks lame compared to the original (or maybe I'm just being nostalgic) and the BG music is nowhere close. I like that some scenes are being fleshed out but this is still a huge MEH so far IMO..
Art and animation is a big improvement from the original series, and there's no way in hell the human transformation scenes are less violent/explicit here. Pure nostalgia talking. Go rewatch the original and see for yourself if necessary.
Ep 2 was very well done, I thought, despite just having rewatched the original series the other day. Initially I was surprised that they weren't skimming through this section of the story, but if it continues on like this I'm more than fine with it (as long as they have enough space to cover everything...).
I watched both episodes last night. and I really like it so far. When I read about Isaac, I thought his filler would take up a few episodes. It seems to be moving along at a good pace. I think the animation is a step up so far, and it feels like a slightly darker atmoshpere this time.
I started re-reading the manga last night to get ready for the end, and there are allot of things I feel like I missed the first time. For one, I forgot how early in the series that
Huges dies
, it happened at the end of chapter 15. I still teared up when I read it again; It was a balsy choice but I still hate it
After having rewatched both episodes a couple of times, I have developed a better appreciation for the music. I'll wait to pass "final" judgment on the music until I get the chance to hear more, but it's not bad so far.
Excited for today's episode! Eagerly awaiting "The Town of Heresy" (邪教の街.
The change in artstyle to me looks as if they're trying to make it resemble the manga's art alot more, which doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm definitely in for the whole thing.
Something is REALLY bugging me about ep1 now. I wish I never noticed it.
In both ep2 and ep3, the hollow ringing sound fx that sounds whenever Ed uses his alchemy is very obvious and clear. In ep1 it's complete absent. Wtf?! I hate inconsistencies like that... -_-
Urk! I just noticed that, duckroll! o_o;;
(I guess the Pokéball-esque sound effects that abound in Episode 3 make up for the inconsistency, though.)
Also, the series is showing a LOT more humor now. For anyone who thought this series would solely be a dark and visceral counterpoint to the original anime, such is not the case.
Just saw episode 2. Not nearly as entertaining as ep1, but can't really complain since it was just backstory.
It could very well be its because I know what is going on now, but the whole scene of when ed and all due the human transmutation didn't seem as gruesome as I remember it in the first one. It was still bloody, but at the same time is seemed brighter and "cleaner." I'll have to go back and watch that part of the first anime sometime to see why it felt different.
Art and animation is a big improvement from the original series, and there's no way in hell the human transformation scenes are less violent/explicit here. Pure nostalgia talking. Go rewatch the original and see for yourself if necessary.
94 chapters so far. Based on the creator's previous comments, it looks like it'll be 24 or 25 volumes. Chapters are serialized monthly, and are 40-50 pages long each.
Let's put it this way: The original anime splits completely from the manga around the halfway point of the anime. by completely, I mean completely. Events are different in the first anime and the manga from the start, but not to the degree that they can be considered completely separate stories. The divergence is around chapter 20 of the manga, around the
5th lab infiltration
. In other words, there are going to be about 70-80 chapters worth of material to cover afterwards, and they'll have to move at a fast pace to get through everything in 51 episodes.
Expect them to reach the major divergence point of the first anime no later than ep 8-10.
In fact, here's a way I could see things play out (shouldn't be spoilers for anyone who has read the manga or seen the first anime), from the first episode through where the first anime diverged.
Episode 1:
New Ice Alchemist shit. Anime original
Episode 2: Flashback to human transmutation incident + Alchemy Exam
Episode 3: Lior
Episode 4: Nina + Tucker, ending with Scar
Episode 5: Scar fucking people and shit up, along with the aftermath
episode 6: Dr. Marcoh
Episode 7: Central Library
Episode 8: 5th Lab
Gluttony's new voice sucks. He doesn't sound like a baby anymore.
At least it's obvious the animators are having a lot of fun retreading stuff. Episode three was delightfully joyful, and I absolutely loved the music during the denouement.
Probably very lttp on this, but I just discovered an English version of "Brothers" by Vic Mignogna and I really like it. I didn't at first, because the vocals are completely different from the Russian version, but now I think I prefer this version.
So far the original anime had better music, voices and ... the story feels rushed and shallow.
Too much comic relief! This show is heading to my shit list
So far the original anime had better music, voices and ... the story feels rushed and shallow.
Too much comic relief! This show is heading to my shit list
So far the original anime had better music, voices and ... the story feels rushed and shallow.
Too much comic relief! This show is heading to my shit list
Can't believe the amount of hate this show is getting. Third episode was amazing, I also love the music this time around; some stuff made me think it was a budget episode though, lots of panning and stuff. Still the show continues to deliver.
The Lior plot was only longer in the first anime because they were establishing things to come later in the anime-only storyline that dealt with Lior and Rose.
No need to bloat it up or pad it out beyond the basic manga rendition this time around, so it fits one episode quite nicely.
Completely new stuff that wasn't in the original series at all won't show up until ep15+ at least. They're doing a good job speeding through, but it'll still take some time.
