Would like to know your thoughts on the change since i am thinking to go 4K or 1440p.
Thanks and enjoy.
G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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Would like to know your thoughts on the change since i am thinking to go 4K or 1440p.
Thanks and enjoy.
going round in circles here and it is driving me crazy. Thinking to upgrade from my 27" 1080p monitor (even though it is a nice VA panel) because it can feel cramped in windows. So a 27" 1440p sounds like it makes sense. But really I need multiple inputs so I can use it either with my home computer or my work laptop (I work from home). Also would like to hook up my PS3 to it. Yet all 1440p gsync monitors currently have only a single DP input which is crap. There are some coming but they look to be super expensive - more than twice what I could get a nice 1440p IPS screen for.
Realistically it sounds like I should forego gsync until at least my next upgrade, by which time maybe costs have come down or standards have merged. Maybe at a stretch get a freesync one which isn't much more expensive and has multiple inputs. Then at least if I go AMD next time, or if Nvidia starts to support adaptive sync in a couple of years I can benefit from that.
Realistically it sounds like I should forego gsync until at least my next upgrade, by which time maybe costs have come down or standards have merged. Maybe at a stretch get a freesync one which isn't much more expensive and has multiple inputs. Then at least if I go AMD next time, or if Nvidia starts to support adaptive sync in a couple of years I can benefit from that.
If you were local I'd have it off you, but I'm the other end of the country
I got it today and oh my, this monitor is glorious! Do note that I come from a crappy 24" 1080p TN monitor, so the difference in size, color and pixels alone was straggering, but the smoothness that brings 144hz and G-sync finishes the job. I just tested GTA V and The WItcher 3 for half an hour each and it's soooo much better.
I probably also won the panel lottery, since mine got no dead pixels, I can't spot any pieces of dust behind the screen and almost no backlight bleed or glow.
"Veni, vidi, vici." - Acer XB270HU, july 2015
BoosterDuck
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LinusTechTips just did an input lag comparison between GSync/Freesync. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzHxhjcE0eQ
They're pretty much the same, with GSync having somewhat lower lag at 45 fps probably due to the maturity of the technology.
I really hope Freesync monitors will be able to support refresh rates below 30 so it'll make Nvidia more competitive
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They're pretty much the same, with GSync having somewhat lower lag at 45 fps probably due to the maturity of the technology.
I really hope Freesync monitors will be able to support refresh rates below 30 so it'll make Nvidia more competitive
aka drop their monitor prices
Having watched the video I wish Linus told us the settings. There is a very important settings in the Nvidia control panel called "Maximum pre-rendered frames" which is default at 3. You can feel the difference from changing it from 3 to 1.
Very cool. Mine arrives on Friday, so finger's crossed. I've been on a Dell U2711 for 5+ years now, which has been a great all-around monitor, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how the Acer performs.
SolidSnakeUS
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Any idea when the Asus PG279Q is coming out?
Hamster Plugin
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How does this work when I have multiple monitors (others do not have G-sync) plugged into my PC? Does it simply disable the other monitors while a game is running, or do the others continue working at 60 fps nicely?
Depends what mode the display is in. In G-sync mode there isn't any point unless the game in question has frame-rate related problems or you're wanting to reduce power usage or heat generation.
iirc you can still get tearing if your frame rate exceeds the display refresh rate.
They continue to work fine. My setup is: 60hz - 144hz (G-Sync) - 60hz. Everything functions as normal.
No solid date yet, just a vague "4th quarter."
SolidSnakeUS
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4th quarter? That far off? Fuck...
I just looked up the supposed specs of that thing. 4ms response time? Is that right?
SolidSnakeUS
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Yep. There's one out by Acer right now, but I really want to see Asus's offering.
But isn't the current model 1ms? Is it because it's IPS? I know very little about this stuff.
SolidSnakeUS
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4ms is the lowest so far for an IPS... I think.
d00d3n
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So in that case it would be smart to cap the frame rate at slightly below display hz (144 in my case)?
Yeah, I am talking about g-sync mode. What frame-rate related problem would be the main issue here? Frame rate going over display hz?
I see.
My 65" inch 4k curved sammy says hello too. I will take the Pepsi challenge between my TV set up and a monitor. My monitor blows away EVERY sub-1600$ monitor I've seen, and working in tech, I see a lot of them. I will say that TVs do tend to have shit settings OOtB, mainly for store-displaying. But once I lower the HDMI black output setting from console and calibrate from there, I get insanely rich colors where applicable, deep blacks, and very uniform imagery on every part of the screen. Monitors almost always skew cool on color temp and are uneven on backlighting.
To each their own, but I'll buy xplats on console because I much prefer a 30fps, more jagged image on my TV than a heavily antialiased, 60 fps, washed out (by comparison) image on my monitors (not cheap Chinese knock-offs).
Hamster Plugin
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OK thanks! I'll have to look into buying a monitor this fall. I don't know how useful G-sync will be with an old GTX670 but I'll probably upgrade my GPU too before my big hype game comes out (Deus Ex Mankind Divided)
Indeed:
BenQ XL2420G 24" 1080p
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MUT6SLE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on this one soon. I don't want to upgrade to 1440p just yet so this one fits the bill for me.
You'll only get tearing above max refresh of you explicitly choose to. You can set sync to off in G-Sync mode. The default is sync on which means the game cannot exceed 144fps.
I was referring to the rare occasion that a game freaks out with a high frame rate. I'd been years since I've seen that though.
Isn't this test a little flawed?
The option of turning v-sync on or off in the nvidia driver is only when the framerate is higher than the monitor refresh rate. He should not turn v-sync on in-game if he intends to use g-sync.
Freesync is an open standard however only Display port is capable. Unless you have a TV with Display port and the PS4 or future PS5 having that port and not only HDMI I don't think is going to happen...
Trojita
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Why would you not have a Gaming PC connected to your TV?
The numbers manufacturers provide are totally bogus anyway.
This is the actual refresh behavior of a XB270HU (G-sync 1440p IPS):
This is the MG279Q (Freesync 1440p IPS):
For comparison, this is a good non-gaming IPS (Dell U2515H):
And here's the TN ROG Swift PG278Q:
The TN is still a bot lower than the IPS panels, but we are talking about 3-4ms here which is really negligible, even at a very high level of skill. And it's bought with annoyingly high RTC overshoot on some transitions.
IMHO. the XB270HU is the most well-configured LCD display of any type in terms of pixel response, ever.
Melhisedek
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I've decided that I'll take 1080p monitor with G-sync but still not sure about 24 or 27''
Don't have a place I can see the comparison
Don't know what to do.
My current one is 1080p and 24''
Don't have a place I can see the comparison
Don't know what to do.My current one is 1080p and 24''
I have one of these on order. Do you know of any calibrations / tweaks that could improve the display out of the box?
I'd go with 24" if you really decide to stick with 1080p. My brother owns a 27" 1080p TN and I think it looks pretty bad in terms of pixel density. I think I saw some calculations the other day that said 1440p is the sweet spot for 27" displays that are used in a desktop workstation environment.I've decided that I'll take 1080p monitor with G-sync but still not sure about 24 or 27''
Don't have a place I can see the comparison
My current one is 1080p and 24''
Might wanna check out the first post here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1549176/official-acer-predator-xb270hu-owners-club
I use the TFTcentral ICC profile and display settings and I think it looks absolutely gorgeous. Probably good enough for anyone else who doesn't even own a calibration device to begin with.
Thanks. Ill give it a butchers
I don't think so. G-Sync is for games. If you're not running a game, as far as G-Sync is concerned, you're just running "Windows". The only control you have over G-Sync behaviour when not running a game, is an on or off toggle.
You could try creating a profile for the application in question in the NVCP 3D settings, then configure Monitor Technology to fixed refresh in that profile.
Even if that works, it'll just disable G-Sync entirely whenever that application is running, which isn't quite what you asked for.
You could try adding those programs to the NVIDIA control panel in 3D settings and disabling G-Sync on that, I know it works on some non-game programs, but I dunno if it works on all.
I tried that ICC profile myself, but found it gave greys a bluish tint so I don't use it.
I'm using the TFT central calibrated screen settings for brightness, contrast, gamma etc. though, and they did make an improvement.
I've been stoked with the Acer XB270HU in the month since I've had it, G-Sync still makes my jaw drop every time. Anything from Project Cars, NBA 2K15, CS:GO to Witcher 3 all look and feel fantastic with G-Sync. The newer models from May onwards also support ULMB up to 120hz as well.
I don't see anything specifically about G-Sync in 3D settings.
With the windowed setting, G-Sync goes into effect all the time, even for non-games. For example, my refresh rate drops to 15 or 30Hz whenever iTunes is in focus. It's easy to tell because the mouse gets really sluggish. Clicking back to Windows Explorer bring the refresh rate back to 144Hz.
I suppose I could just leave the windowed option disabled until I play a game that needs it.
It doesn't seem like there's a suitable panel available. Nvidia mandate that the panels used with G-Sync have particular properties. They can and do steer the manufacturers towards the panels that work best with the technology. I believe the only G-Sync IPS display on sale so far is the Acer XB270HU, which would lend credence to that theory.
Either that, or the number of people who would pay the asking price for such a display is too small for manufacturers to bother with.
I know. Your option is still on or off though. The behaviour you see is just because some applications do not work well with Windowed G-Sync.
What we're talking about is in NVCP > 3D settings > Program Settings.
You could try adding the application you want to exclude from G-Sync and setting Monitor Technology to Fixed Refresh.
Mine was built in April and also supports 120hz ULMB, so maybe April onwards?
Boo-urns.