Dictator93
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I think the monitor is defective in someway. In all theimpressions of Gsync monitors I have read I never heard of that being a systemic side effect of using Gsync.
G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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Razzorn34
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Yeah... This fact is killing me. I don't think it has anything to do with G-Sync itself though. I was checking out the Acer XB270HU with the recommendations here, but my god the complaints. I decided to check out the ASUS PG278Q ROG Swift instead. Which apparently has even more complaints. The amount of RMAs on these is staggering. They may be amazing monitors, but you might as well be rolling dice. I can accept that for a cheap ass monitor, but not $800 bucks. Hopefully someone else jumps in scene soon that actually has quality standards.
Dries
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You're probably right about high-end monitor owners caring more about visual fidelity. I see my friends, who aren't really big on the "technical" side of gaming, play videogames with tearing, sub 30 fps, and framerates all over the place.
And they don't notice a thing. Ah, such bliss though...
Finally got my Acer today. Was very excited to check it out. Had a couple dust particles behind the screen, but in the lower-right. Acceptable, but annoying. One stuck red pixel in the middle of the screen. Again, probably won't ever notice it. However, a huge defect is that after about 30 minutes of use, the lower-right backlight basically went out. WTF. 
For eight bills, the quality of this monitor leaves a lot to be desired. Guess I'm sticking with my U2711 for now. When it *was* working, GTA5, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc. all looked great. Too bad QC on this thing sucks so hard. Congrats to those who haven't had problems. I'm going to wait until there are more options on the market.
For eight bills, the quality of this monitor leaves a lot to be desired. Guess I'm sticking with my U2711 for now. When it *was* working, GTA5, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, etc. all looked great. Too bad QC on this thing sucks so hard. Congrats to those who haven't had problems. I'm going to wait until there are more options on the market.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So, I remember hearing a while back that there's a G-Sync VA monitor that's on the way. Has there been any news on that lately, or any indication as to when we can expect it?
I wanted either an IPS or a VA, as even the ROG Swift just looked too goddamn terrible to justify keeping. The Acer sounds great, except that I don't want to deal with the QC lottery.
It just can't be easy, can it?
I wanted either an IPS or a VA, as even the ROG Swift just looked too goddamn terrible to justify keeping. The Acer sounds great, except that I don't want to deal with the QC lottery.
It just can't be easy, can it?
Takamura-San
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Ended up buying an Acer XB280HK bprz factory refurbished. It should come home this week. After debating internally for a while I decided I rather have the extra pixels instead of the Hz. Hopefully I didn't make a huge mistake. The G-Sync is a good cherry on top.
Not many mentions of the BenQ XL2420G, probably because it's 1080p and TN.
Like to mention it though with the talk of QA issues since it seems to be the most solid Gsync monitor right now. Got mine, no major issues so far for about a month now. No stuck pixels, uniformity is above average, LED bleed is excellently low, no banding, no major crosshatching, colors look fine to me, performance seems great.
There's only two issues I have, which is the black level/contrast is a little below average. It's alright if you like an overall darker picture, you can get the black levels down to an acceptable level by using specific image modes (fast gaming) and brightness below 10. The other issue is the monitor OS is kinda buggy. If you set brightness to 0, it rolls over to 100 (and blinds you) when you turn it on next time. Solution is to set brightness to 1 which is where I keep mine for the best black levels.
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Overall, it's a nice monitor, but I'd say over a period of a month, I'm now used to gsync and 120hz. Because of that, the novelty and wow factor has worn off and really even when I load up minecraft, get a solid 120hz, then switch it down in the game to 60hz, it's definitely visibly slower and more choppy but not enough I can really honestly say "I care" about. I'd rather take a high quality VA monitor for the ultra high contrast ratio/black levels. And I was actually going to pick that one 120hz VA (that I can't think of the name of) but a lot of reviews complained about, you guessed it, bad QA issues again so I passed. I'm happy though with the purchase, I just think they can focus it in by giving us a VA panel with 144hz/gsync too that isn't some dumb resolution like the curved one coming out.
Like to mention it though with the talk of QA issues since it seems to be the most solid Gsync monitor right now. Got mine, no major issues so far for about a month now. No stuck pixels, uniformity is above average, LED bleed is excellently low, no banding, no major crosshatching, colors look fine to me, performance seems great.
There's only two issues I have, which is the black level/contrast is a little below average. It's alright if you like an overall darker picture, you can get the black levels down to an acceptable level by using specific image modes (fast gaming) and brightness below 10. The other issue is the monitor OS is kinda buggy. If you set brightness to 0, it rolls over to 100 (and blinds you) when you turn it on next time. Solution is to set brightness to 1 which is where I keep mine for the best black levels.
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Overall, it's a nice monitor, but I'd say over a period of a month, I'm now used to gsync and 120hz. Because of that, the novelty and wow factor has worn off and really even when I load up minecraft, get a solid 120hz, then switch it down in the game to 60hz, it's definitely visibly slower and more choppy but not enough I can really honestly say "I care" about. I'd rather take a high quality VA monitor for the ultra high contrast ratio/black levels. And I was actually going to pick that one 120hz VA (that I can't think of the name of) but a lot of reviews complained about, you guessed it, bad QA issues again so I passed. I'm happy though with the purchase, I just think they can focus it in by giving us a VA panel with 144hz/gsync too that isn't some dumb resolution like the curved one coming out.
d00d3n
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The option to choose between ULMB and G-Sync for each individual game in nvidia control panel is such a useful feature. With my Eizo fg2421 I had to use the annoying display button interface to switch (between the ULMB-like mode and normal), but with my Acer XB270HU everything is handled automatically. Set the mode you want for a specific game in nvidia control panel and forget, basically.
A related question: How do I set ULMB at 80Hz or 100Hz for individual games (120Hz seems to be the default setting)?
A related question: How do I set ULMB at 80Hz or 100Hz for individual games (120Hz seems to be the default setting)?
I think the problem is that these aren't high end monitors. They are consumer monitors with an expensive gsync board added. That additional cost puts them into high end price brackets but that money hasn't been spent on the panel or construction.
SeeNoWeevil
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Gaming on LCD without strobing or insanely high refresh, gsync or otherwise is garbage.
PG279Q might be available starting next week if this is anything to go by:
https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROGUK/status/623832808482582528
https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROGUK/status/623832808482582528
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Been waiting for news about this monitor for ever... I'll pre order as soon as possiblePG279Q might be available starting next week if this is anything to go by:
https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROGUK/status/623832808482582528
Felix Lighter
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I sure hope so. I've been waiting for that monitor. I hope it's released in the US at the same time.
daninthemix
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Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the Acer XB270HA? I know Acer quality control leaves something to be desired, but what about IQ?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Monitor has been sent off for testing/repair/whatever. I'm quite happy to keep it if I get a working version. I'm sure they won't be able to replicate the issue though.
I've only ever bought one monitor/display/screen in my entire life that hasn't had problems upon arrival. Don't anybody ever let me buy them one.
I've only ever bought one monitor/display/screen in my entire life that hasn't had problems upon arrival. Don't anybody ever let me buy them one.
Edit: I'm an idiot, thought you were talking about the XB270HU.
ussjtrunks
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I'm In need of a monitor upgrade atm as my current one died however I wish there was better ac on these monitors as I'd love to get one but I'm leaning towards the dell u2715h atm.
Gonna wait to hear what the asus is like first though
Gonna wait to hear what the asus is like first though
Felix Lighter
Member
I have my PC all prepped for the Asus, I'm buying as soon as I can instead of waiting for reviews. I don't want to wait months while it's sold out. If there are major issues, I'll return it.
Darryl M R
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How is the Samsung 4k freesync monitor?
I wanted to build a pc using nvidia cards but I have brand loyalty to Samsung monitors.
I wanted to build a pc using nvidia cards but I have brand loyalty to Samsung monitors.
Why would you want to get a freesync monitor and nvidia video card. They don't work together. Either go Gsync or save money with a regular 4K samsung monitor.
Darryl M R
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I know that. I said I wanted to build a pc with nvidia but I have brand loyalty to Samsung because I consider them to make high quality monitors so I am considering building a pc with AMD.
Any chance Samsung will come out with a Gsync monitor?
Not sure why you have a loyalty to Samsung. It's not like they are the gold standard for gaming monitors.
Samsung hasn't announce any Gsync monitors and it doesn't seem likely in the future either. So, it's AMD and freesync for you.
mysocksarepink
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Just ordered the Acer predator from Amazon. Anyone know what's with their 1-4 week shipping estimate!?
Did you ordered this one XB280HK - 4K, TN With G-SYNC?
Crazymoogle
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Well, I'm onboard the NVIDIA train now. GTX970 SSC ACX2.0+ acronym hell. But it's fast.
But the idea of spending $600 on the BenQ XL2420G makes me sadface. I wish there was easy demo units with GSYNC because it would be so much easier to just throw that money at a 30" + curved panel instead...
But the idea of spending $600 on the BenQ XL2420G makes me sadface. I wish there was easy demo units with GSYNC because it would be so much easier to just throw that money at a 30" + curved panel instead...
That's a different monitor. The Acer Predator XB270HU is a GSync IPS 1440p 144hz monitor.
Maybe, watch a video of what GSync does.
Exalted Kezia
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Got a speck of dust behind the screen on my new acer XB270HU but at least it's on the very outer edge of the screen. I've found that I only notice it outside games or I just stare at the spot for long enough. The high resolution does a good job of masking it when things are in motion. Apart from that small imperfection the monitor has more than exceeded my exceptions, especially g-sync. Have only had the same feeling with upgrades when going to a mechanical keyboard from membrane or going from 30 fps to 60 and now 144. Just can't see myself ever using a monitor without it in the future.
xplicitone
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I really need the ASUS pg279q to come out already! I missed the 4th of July sale for the 10% off KB270HU, because I hesitated.
The more you care the more you notice, it's a vicious cycle until you're so neurotic you can't enjoy games anymore. I've been there. Now I've given up and it feels way better (also got way more stuff going on in my life so I could obsess over trivialities if I wanted to).
I mean, it's crazy that we still have 6bpp subpixel displays, bad viewing angles, LCDs that don't refresh every pixel, backlight bleeding, etc.
The manpower to make things change now just isn't there.
Picked up the AOC G2460PG today and either my monitor has problems or it doesn't work as I thought it would and thus I'm disappointed.
Keeping it simple: colours are fucked up with G-Sync enabled, particularly blacks, resulting in a shitty crosshair look. Here's an off screen shot of a vista in Wild Hunt taken at the same time of day, one with G-Sync the other without. The difference speaks for itself.
I tried Half-Life 2 and noticed this as well. What gives?
I've set the monitor at 120hz @ 1080p.
Damn that looks really bad, I don't have any problems like this on my XB270HU. I know you said you didn't want to but perhaps at least wait it out a bit until you can afford that or the Asus one that's about to come out. Like a few others here I'm rocking that and a GTX 970 and it works very well. The jump up from 1080p to 1440p doesn't hurt the frame rate too much with a 970. With GTA V and witcher 3 I got everything on high settings 60+fps solid... Older games I'm getting 100fps. GRID autosport and assetto corsa looks glorious.
Future PhaZe
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upgraded to a titan x but guess what yall
1080p for life
does anyone here know if you can get consoles working with a gsync monitor (obviously no gsync or 144 hz) using some kind of hdmi to display port cable? tried it once and the shit didn't work, but it was a while back
i play on a 24 inch gsync asus.
1080p for life
does anyone here know if you can get consoles working with a gsync monitor (obviously no gsync or 144 hz) using some kind of hdmi to display port cable? tried it once and the shit didn't work, but it was a while back
i play on a 24 inch gsync asus.
Smushroomed
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I had 3 rog swifts but returned one because my 980ti sli setup can't support it well. Using 2 for now
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'm thinking that once the monitor is sorted out (repair or not) I'll forgo Gsync for awhile. I do love it, but it seems I'm going to need to pay higher end (eg: XB270HU) to get the good stuff and I can't really justify that right now for a monitor alone. So I'm thinking I'm going to grab a 60hz 1440p monitor and start putting some dollars aside for a 980 or something to keep the framerate up.
daninthemix
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This is my thinking, too. The premium on the monitors is just too much - even £400 for a very low-end screen. Would rather stick with my Benq AMVA for the moment and enjoy the IQ. It helps that I can tolerate a locked 30fps if necessary.
Crazymoogle
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Yeah, but the vids I've seen so far show a pretty subtle difference (probably not helped that I'm watching it on a monitor that is decidedly not GSync/144hz). Real demos would help a ton to sell this stuff, because otherwise it's contending against IQ.
Hopefully the GSYNC premium comes down a bit this year so we can see it included in a better range of panels. (I'm not in the market for Freesync but the cost difference is big there, too!)
Hamster Plugin
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I currently have a 60 fps TN LED monitor and I'm happy enough with the colors on it, so I don't feel the need to spend crazy amounts to get better colors. Are 144 fps TN panels worse than 60 fps TN panels and why?
The XB270HU is simply way too expensive for me.
The XB270HU is simply way too expensive for me.
No, the difference is monstrous. Try standing on top of a tower playing Shadow of Mordor and spin around without G-SYNC on. The amount of tearing you'll see is ridiculous. G-SYNC virtually eliminates that experience and gameplay is much smoother. I don't know if it's placebo or what, but I also suffer from much less motion sickness on FPS games. I will never go back to non-G-SYNC gaming. For reference sake, I have a XB270HU and GTX970 SLI.
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Deleted member 1159
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Consoles don't support GSync. The monitor and graphics card both need to support it, and only Nvidia cards 6xx and up support it. It's proprietary tech.
I've been rocking my ROG for almost a year and I'm wondering if I'll want to get a second 980 someday. 1440p is very demanding compared to 1080. Switching between the resolutions in Witcher 3 is something like a 35 FPS difference. But the image quality at 1440p vs my 1080p monitor is astounding as well, no way I could go back.
The elimination of stuttering when the framerate fluctuates can't be ignored either. Even games where I previously was running >60FPS constantly, sometimes they'd just hitch out of nowhere using vsync or triple buffering. GSync eliminates all of that. Try playing Lords of Shadow at 120 FPS with GSync...it's insane how smooth it is.
daninthemix
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I think it's pretty short-sighted of Nvidia to charge the premium that they do, as it'll confine G-sync to a niche within a niche market. If they priced it competitively, more people would be drawn to Nvidia GPUs.
Crazymoogle
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I don't really have motion sickness issues and played through Mordor on PS4 no problem. So like I said, the difference might not be so obvious for me. Certainly, I'd rather own a 55" LED television than a 27" Gsync panel (which are roughly the same price, at least in Canada)
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Which sadly, cannot be done without owning a Gsync display, hence why it cries out for demo units. I'm not saying Gsync is somehow bad or not worth paying for, but sight unseen for a what seems to be a premium of $300 or more? It's overwhelming.
mysocksarepink
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I agree, demo stations should be a thing. It sucks a little bit that there is quite a bunch of entertainment tech right that you can only 'experience' in person (VR, variable refresh, ...).
Personally, I definitely prefer my 27" 1440p Gsync IPS over my familys 49" UHD TV for gaming, no questions asked. But I guess that's a matter of personal preference, for me : Gsync > extra screen size.
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Deleted member 1159
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Sure, it's a very niche display tech which is only about a year old at this point. The price will come down over time. Personally, though, I've tried capping Witcher 3 at 30FPS to just see what it's like, and I can't stand it. Same with GTAV. There might be something about playing on a TV that makes it more tolerable, but there's just no way I could go back to playing some of these games on console.
But then, everyone has their own limits on what they're willing to spend. I'm not running an SLI Titan X configuration because of that
And even then, I'm sitting about 2-2.5 feet from my monitor, whereas I'm about 10 feet away from my 50" plasma. The size difference isn't huge. The resolution and framerate are.
When you see it, you'll know it. And it's completely noticeable. It's not even a comparison, especially to a console experience, which on almost all levels (fps, graphics settings/features, resolution) will be lower (except Arkham Knight).
daninthemix
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For those yet to jump on G-sync, I wrote this to help us use our fixed refresh monitors to the full: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1085179
Soodanim
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It sounds like that really scarred you, but I have a G2460PG too and I have had no problems like that at all. There was one issue where for some reason G-Sync turned itself off, but that was a GPU problem, not a monitor one. The reason I bring that up is that I loaded GTAV, and I noticed the tearing immediately. For me, it's massive. I'll only ever not use G-Sync if I'm using ULMB for games I can run at a constant 120fps. I think my point is that I don't know how you can give it up!