Guys, what's your opinion on the first TN Rog Swift compared to the newer LED/LCD models? I'm itching to buy a g-sync monitor but the only one available in Brazil is the first RogSwift, and I have no idea when the other models will come. Is the benefits from LCD/LED so great that it'd be better for me to wait (even though it could take a year or so for newer models?).
G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.
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I had this monitor last week and returned it. I noticed that I needed a flat finger press to register an input; fingertips rarely worked. And even then it seemed hit or miss. I doubt your buttons are broken because I saw this complaint online while doing research before I bought it.
Thanks. In a video YT they also complained about the responsiveness of the buttons. No game breaker for me. Still shitty for such a pricey product. Not sure if I keep it. Will try it some more during the weekend.
I've bought this one some months ago and I really liked. Well, actually I've bought it from Amazon because it was out of stock at megamamute but it was this model. And after shipping and taxes I've payed more than R$ 3000,00. I recommend it, specially at R$ 2.519,10.
And yeah, I'm not really answering what you've asked, but I think you'd like to know about this one in Brazil. Like you, I couldn't wait to get a G-Sync monitor.
It's a great monitor when it works. It has the typical TN disadvantages, of course, but all its other specifications are great.
I haven't had great luck with build quality though. The first one I had died a little less than a year after I got it. The second one I got has one bright red pixel away from the edge.
Pulled the trigger on a BenQ XL2420G, and it's sitting here in a box making sexy eyes at me. Can't wait to get home and fire it up.
Interesting that the US prices are still so high; from $530 to $580 looking at Amazon and Newegg. I paid "only" $599AUD (where a direct exchange rate conversion would put it over $700). I guess it's older stock - and anyone buying from the next shipment is going to have a bad time.
Interesting that the US prices are still so high; from $530 to $580 looking at Amazon and Newegg. I paid "only" $599AUD (where a direct exchange rate conversion would put it over $700). I guess it's older stock - and anyone buying from the next shipment is going to have a bad time.
Crazymoogle
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Damn, so AUS:CDN is 1:1? :sadface
Strongly considering that model but leaning towards the 27" 1080p Acer model. No HDMI but a bigger screen sounds nice...
I was also undecided between the Acer and the Benq. Funnily enough the Acer would have been cheaper. But I went with the Benq. Think quality wise BenQ > Acer. Also have my doubts about 1080 on 27".
Still not sure if I will keep the Benq. I like it. But to be honest I expected more from an upgrade to 144Hz and G-Sync, after all the praise I read about it.
ty for the responses
Only downside is that it is a 1080p monitor. I sthe image quality still good?
Hey, I had no idea Phillips had a gsync monitor
Only downside is that it is a 1080p monitor. I sthe image quality still good?Another fear I have about this. So many reports about dead pixels and bad build quality. Getting a RMA is way harder here too...
Smushroomed
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I have 2 of them, I have no complaints other than the regular TN downsides. I believe it is worth to spend more money on a place with a good return policy.
ty for the responses
Hey, I had no idea Phillips had a gsync monitor
It's good enough for me, having the TN and 1080p only downsides in mind. Previously I had a 120Hz no G-Sync bench monitor, and I much prefer this one.
Crazymoogle
Member
I have (some) doubts too, but on the other hand since I have a GTX 970, I get the impression it will have longer legs at 1080p than 1440p. That, and a 1440p GSYNC display is ridiculously expensive ($999+)
Of course, the Acer Z35 sounds absolutely perfect for this card (2560x1080, curved, basically a wide 27" panel, VA tech) but at ~$1200 the price is insane. The 29" curved Samsungs (also VA) are going for around $600 ish here.
Yeah I keep hearing its amazing (having never used either 144hz or GSYNC) but then I sometimes hear it's not that different. I'm ready to dump my HP 24" TN though...
Shepard said:Hey, I had no idea Phillips had a gsync monitor
According to reviews its on par with the other 1080p, TN GSYNC displays. I've heard many mixed things about Philips displays in the past but that was years ago when they pushed backlighting on everything. Now I think all of the 1080p TN displays are roughly the same except for any other trinkets they bring to the table (BenQ has the HDMI port and color mode switcher)
I love it. Going from 60hz to 144hz is mind blowing enough (even on the Windows desktop). And then G-sync is fantastic. Very happy with the unit overall, from panel quality through to general design & construction. But I am a little bummed that the S switch doesn't do anything in G-sync mode.
And experts are saying we might slide another 20c before the ride is over. Next year could be a bad year to buy stuff!
Crazymoogle
Member
Yeah, you're really just buying the extra ports for flexibility as G-Sync only works through DP anyway. It's for consoles or whatever you want to retire the display to later.
We've had this discussion in the other thread, That kind of drop is not going to happen. But even hitting 70c is bad enough
SolidSnakeUS
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Curious, is it worth going for the IPS with G-Sync or should I just go to a good LED-LCD one with 144hz and 1440p?
IPS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742
LED-LCD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...405&cm_re=1440p_g-sync-_-24-236-405-_-Product
Or just go for the really good 1080p G-sync? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
IPS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742
LED-LCD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...405&cm_re=1440p_g-sync-_-24-236-405-_-Product
Or just go for the really good 1080p G-sync? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
I just ordered the Acer XB270HU and another similar Acer 27" 1440p IPS 60hz display (CB270HU) as a secondary, to replace my 3x 1080p monitors with one of them being the AOC G-Sync monitor. Set me back close to £1000 but two of these monitors are ancient and terrible. Plus I should be able to recoup some of the cost on selling the AOC G-Sync monitor as it is in good condition.
Just sent back the BenQ XL2420G. Wasn't too impressed with it. Back at my old monitor now and I miss the picture quality. But the 144Hz/G-Sync did not too much for me. Maybe I have shitty eyes. Don't know.
Still considering the BenQ XL2411Z. This one has the same display minus the G-Sync from what I've read. But maybe I'll go with a IPS panel instead.
Still considering the BenQ XL2411Z. This one has the same display minus the G-Sync from what I've read. But maybe I'll go with a IPS panel instead.
Anyone on Windows 10 noticed some oddities with Gsync regarding Borderless Windowed games (ie, all Unity games, among others)?
I first noticed it in Trails from the Sky, which had a Windows 10 bug where you have to run the game windowed to play. Doing this introduced some weird stutter when first entering areas (since it pauses for a short load and often ends up starting at low FPS and cycling back up to your max). I thought at first this was related to just the windowed mode being buggy, it's an old game after all.
But I noticed it in another BW game, Celestian Tales.
It's very distracting. I can reduce it a bit by changing my monitor to 60hz ( I guess because it doesn't need as long to get back up to 120 or 144hz) but it's kind of annoying.
I first noticed it in Trails from the Sky, which had a Windows 10 bug where you have to run the game windowed to play. Doing this introduced some weird stutter when first entering areas (since it pauses for a short load and often ends up starting at low FPS and cycling back up to your max). I thought at first this was related to just the windowed mode being buggy, it's an old game after all.
But I noticed it in another BW game, Celestian Tales.
It's very distracting. I can reduce it a bit by changing my monitor to 60hz ( I guess because it doesn't need as long to get back up to 120 or 144hz) but it's kind of annoying.
Melhisedek
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Guys ever since I bought Acer G-Sync monitor my Nvidia card doesn't downclock when idle... I tried rolling back drivers, clean installing, purging and all that stuff. But card stays at ~800 MHz core.
While I know it downclocked to ~130 MHz before.
Anyone have same problem?
Have
GTX 770
Acer and Samsung monitors, both 1080p but Acer is 144 while Samsung is 60 MHz refresh
Win10
While I know it downclocked to ~130 MHz before.
Anyone have same problem?
Have
GTX 770
Acer and Samsung monitors, both 1080p but Acer is 144 while Samsung is 60 MHz refresh
Win10
Fatmanp
Member
This is an issue with 144hz. If you want it to down clock set the monitor to 120hz. Should do the trick
Melhisedek
Member
If I change my refresh to 120, my brightness goes down the drain, but surely card downclocks normally.
No idea why brightness goes down...?
No idea why brightness goes down...?
Felix Lighter
Member
Are you sure it's not enabling the backlight strobing?
Melhisedek
Member
ULMB was the problem, love you guys!!! Finally low power state and high brightness
I still wonder what this brightness talk is about. I tested ULMB with CSGO and certainly I can see a difference between normal and ULMB mode. But the brightness in ULMB is way higher than the one I use in normal mode. I'm running the Acer XB270hu at around 30% I think. I can see a clear difference in motion clarity though so it kicks in for sure. Still curious why I only read how bad the brightness is in ULMB mode, are you all running your monitors at 100%?
I'm using 60% with ULMB off. ULMB at 100% brightness is still significantly darker.
I suppose I could just get used to a lower standard brightness and the change won't be so apparent.
Maybe I'm part of the minority here, but I for the life of me could not tell the difference when I had G-Sync on or off. I instantly noticed a difference when I went from 60Hz to 144Hz, but the G-Sync feature almost felt non-existent to me. G-Sync only helps to eliminate screen tearing/stuttering without increasing input lag, right?
BossDarkseid
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Gsync monitor vs 4k monitor....
or 4k gsync....
that is the question
or 4k gsync....
that is the question
with an obvious answer. If you want 4K, get a G-Sync 4K monitor
This is why I prefer to describe G-Sync as a fix above all else. Eliminating screen tearing and stuttering whilst having practically no input lag (until a game hits the 144fps mark) is massive for many of us, and really, given how many games have poor or just broken vsync implementations, it actually removes a lot of the most common problems people have with PC games.
It's a fix that also provides the added benefit of being able to have a refresh synced image at whatever fps you're at, be it 47fps, 92fps, 75fps, etc rather than having to meet the previous set intervals of refresh (30, 60, 120, etc) in order to get a decent experience.
Depends on the monitor. It was fine with the lightboost hack on a VG278H, but it's really dim on my ROG Swift.
BoosterDuck
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Guys which monitor should I get?
The AOC G2460PG or the Acer XB240H?
they're both on sale at Newegg with the Acer like $4 more lol
The AOC G2460PG or the Acer XB240H?
they're both on sale at Newegg with the Acer like $4 more lol
johnnydrama
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I've been holding off my 1440p G-sync monitor upgrade for months now, mostly because a lot of them are TN panels or low quality IPS ones. Around E3, however, Asus unveiled this 1440p 144Hz G-sync IPS monitor, but there has been no update on it ever since.
http://www.pcgamer.com/144-hz-g-sync-ips-asus-pg2749q-monitor-coming-q3-for-800/
Should I wait for this, or just pick up one of the other 144Hz IPS G-sync monitors available right now?
http://www.pcgamer.com/144-hz-g-sync-ips-asus-pg2749q-monitor-coming-q3-for-800/
Should I wait for this, or just pick up one of the other 144Hz IPS G-sync monitors available right now?
It will use the same panel as the XB270hu so it's probably up to personal preference in regards to design and coating. Feature-wise the only difference should be the HDMI port that the Asus offers.
michaelius
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You guys must really hate your eyes - that's over 200 cd brightnes.
Crazymoogle
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Well guys, I was kicking and screaming about it earlier, but I'm a member of the G-SYNC family now, rocking a BenQ XL2420G. This 144hz stuff is...interesting. Gonna take some time to get used to it. Windows 10 made setup even easier than I imagined, though.
They're basically the same monitor (DisplayPort only, 24", 1080p). I guess take a look at the base and see if there's something you like more about one or the other.
They're basically the same monitor (DisplayPort only, 24", 1080p). I guess take a look at the base and see if there's something you like more about one or the other.
PG279Q samples apparently pushed back to October. TFT Central expects the model to hit retail in December... Guess it was the right decision not to wait for it.
https://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/637368708541906944
https://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/637368708541906944
I'm using 144Hz. Mouse movement is a lot smoother than 60Hz.
Felix Lighter
Member
God damn it!
BoosterDuck
Banned
aw yeah, this Acer XB240H has no dead pixels
GSync for $350 not a bad deal
GSync for $350 not a bad deal
144 all the way! The desktop smoothness is as sweet as the gaming advantages. There was an old issue where the cards didn't idle at 144 on the desktop, keeping temps up. Obviously fixed in a driver update at some point, because my 970 idles fine.
The new Asus monitors are now available for pre-order on Overclockers.uk:
34" 21:9 Curved 3440x1440 100Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-089-AS (£1200)
27" 16:9 4K 60Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-090-AS (£800)
27" 16:9 1440p 165Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-088-AS (£750)
All are supposedly out before the end of this year.
I thought the 1440p screen was reasonably priced in comparison to the Acer but then I realized that the XB270HU was £590 on their site. Not sure about the release price of the XB270HU in UK, was it £750 too?! My eyes popped out when I converted it to Euro
34" 21:9 Curved 3440x1440 100Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-089-AS (£1200)
27" 16:9 4K 60Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-090-AS (£800)
27" 16:9 1440p 165Hz: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-088-AS (£750)
All are supposedly out before the end of this year.
I thought the 1440p screen was reasonably priced in comparison to the Acer but then I realized that the XB270HU was £590 on their site. Not sure about the release price of the XB270HU in UK, was it £750 too?! My eyes popped out when I converted it to Euro
Iced_Eagle
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Hopefully won't be too long before it shows up to pre-order in the US.
Though, one thing stood out to me as a 780 Ti user.
Interesting that you require a 900 series card to get to 165 Hz. However, even for the 700 series, wouldn't it go up to 144 Hz?
Regardless, looks like it will be time for me to upgrade next year with Pascal.
Yeah, I also wonder why they'd require a 9xx series card for >120Hz. It's probably got to do with the 165Hz "trick" they used. Can't wait for professional review outlets to cover these displays.
I personally wouldn't want to miss out on the 60fps+ smoothness anymore. Also, I think 27" is too small for 4k if you plan to use the monitor for work.