G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.

So my 1080p 144 hz acer monitor allows either G-Sync or ULMB, but not both simultaneously. Which do I choose? I just got this monitor and I'm using a gtx 1070 with a 6700k, getting above 100 fps in most games.

Depends if you think motion blur is an issue or not, I'd say G-Sync mode is far better in most circumstances but ULMB is great for playing stuff like fast side scrolling platformers.

G Sync shows the frames as they are rendered and gives great & more responsive (than non g sync) visuals with no tearing because it's not trying to update the screen X (say, 60) times per second like a regular monitor, it means things with varying framerates feel smoother and look nicer.

ULMB scans the light behind the screen on and off constantly to work in conjunction with the screen and your eyes/brain to make you see the images more distinctly, the downside is that you lose brightness because the light is turned off just as much as it is on but the upside is that moving objects don't blur as much as they normally would, the downside is this mode is not using G Sync and so it is beholden to all the tearing and other problems you face in a standard monitor, though these are lessened if your game is running at a consistently ridiculously high framerate anyway.

That's my understanding of the two solutions and why you would use one over the other in different circumstances. For me personally on an Acer XB271HU I use G Sync about 99% of the time.
 
I just got an Acer XB271HU. How do you tell if G-Sync is on? Is there anything you have to do to enable it, outside of the nVidia control panel? Do I want to turn vsync off on all of my games? I bumped up the refresh rate in Windows for my video card to 144hz.
 
I just got an Acer XB271HU. How do you tell if G-Sync is on? Is there anything you have to do to enable it, outside of the nVidia control panel? Do I want to turn vsync off on all of my games? I bumped up the refresh rate in Windows for my video card to 144hz.
Enable gsync in nVidia control panel, yes. (I recommend for fullscreen and windows by the way)
You want vsync turned on in games, it will only kick in at > 144 fps rendered.
My way to check gsync is to enable the Refresh Rate Display in the XB271HU settings and comparing it to Steam's FPS display, it should be fluctuating just the same.
 
How hot do these new monitors get?
Have a Dell U2410 monitor that is 6 years old already and the screen gets pretty hot which gets to me a bit in summer times.
This being an IPS screen I'm getting tired of the poor blacks, so the next one should be VA.
 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0149QBOF0/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I know this is a popular one on here - does this have built in speakers?
Nope as evident by the TFT central review and dell spec sheet
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http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm
 
ULMB is for titles you can keep locked at 120 or 144 FPS, whatever your refresh is. Turning it on means you'll be dealing with screen tearing or judder from the disabled Gsync at 100ish FPS unless you can get the game and your monitor to output at 100hz.

Personally I find ULMB mosts useful for games that just run 60+ fps at all times. For example I play Dark Souls games with ULMB instead of G-sync even though they are framerate capped at 60 fps. The added motion clarity of ULMB helps with games that are very fast paced in general so any first person shooter for example. G-Sync is great but ULMB is another fantastic feature as it allows CRT-like motion. Brightness hasn't been an issue, on my PG278Q I have the pulse width at 80 with ULMB and there is no noticeable difference in brightness to what I usually use on the desktop (brightness down to 22 while on ULMB it is set at 100).
 
Personally I find ULMB mosts useful for games that just run 60+ fps at all times. For example I play Dark Souls games with ULMB instead of G-sync even though they are framerate capped at 60 fps. The added motion clarity of ULMB helps with games that are very fast paced in general so any first person shooter for example. G-Sync is great but ULMB is another fantastic feature as it allows CRT-like motion. Brightness hasn't been an issue, on my PG278Q I have the pulse width at 80 with ULMB and there is no noticeable difference in brightness to what I usually use on the desktop (brightness down to 22 while on ULMB it is set at 100).

I thought ULMB only works for games that run at 120 fps? Games that run at 60 fps actually benefit from ULMB?
 
Has anyone had a problem of occasionally games becoming very choppy with Gsync?? I had this happen yesterday while playing Dota2 and thought it was just Dota, but it happened today with Overwatch. It was fine earlier today, I locked my computer, came back and hopped in a game and it's choppy.

I should mention that I play both games in fullscreen windowed mode with Vsync off (right now).
 
Has anyone had a problem of occasionally games becoming very choppy with Gsync?? I had this happen yesterday while playing Dota2 and thought it was just Dota, but it happened today with Overwatch. It was fine earlier today, I locked my computer, came back and hopped in a game and it's choppy.
And it goes away when you disable gsync?
 
Has anyone had a problem of occasionally games becoming very choppy with Gsync?? I had this happen yesterday while playing Dota2 and thought it was just Dota, but it happened today with Overwatch. It was fine earlier today, I locked my computer, came back and hopped in a game and it's choppy.

I should mention that I play both games in fullscreen windowed mode with Vsync off (right now).

I occasionally find that games will be choppy if the monitor's been asleep for a while but it doesn't happen every time. Sometimes I can fix it by popping the game in and out of fullscreen mode but for some games it requires a reboot to get it working properly again.
 
I occasionally find that games will be choppy if the monitor's been asleep for a while but it doesn't happen every time. Sometimes I can fix it by popping the game in and out of fullscreen mode but for some games it requires a reboot to get it working properly again.

Rebooting seems to fix it. Maybe it is related to the monitor going to sleep. I'll have to check that. I'm not sure what causes the problem.
 
Has anyone had a problem of occasionally games becoming very choppy with Gsync?? I had this happen yesterday while playing Dota2 and thought it was just Dota, but it happened today with Overwatch. It was fine earlier today, I locked my computer, came back and hopped in a game and it's choppy.

I've had this before. I think what fixed it was uninstalling drivers and reinstalling them or turning G-Sync off and then back on again and rebooting.
 
Does anyone have this Dell 27"? It's pretty affordable and has decent reviews: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27-led-gsync-monitor-black/5293502.p?id=bb5293502&skuId=5293502

I'm planning on getting this one next month along with a 1070. I recommend grabbing it for 500. Newegg has dropped it to 480-470 3 times in the last two months You have to scout it though because it's usually a random 1 day sale.

Honestly, Don't! (or at least make sure you spend some serious time with it at a local shop)
Read my last few posts on this thread.

I managed to get the colors to pop but at the price of increased ghosting, in addition to that the anti glare coating will silently kill you while you try to willfully ignore it. It looks like a mild case of when you have a greasy cellphone screen, except you cannot fucking clean it!!!.

I loooooove how awesome Gsync is and the screen estate and aesthetics of this monitor are ace. But at a $500 price tag I cannot ignore its shortcoming, I'm going to eat a restocking fee from stupid ass Newegg and save that money for either an Acer or for whatever gsync panel comes next.
 
Honestly, Don't! (or at least make sure you spend some serious time with it at a local shop)
Read my last few posts on this thread.

I managed to get the colors to pop but at the price of increased ghosting, in addition to that the anti glare coating will silently kill you while you try to willfully ignore it. It looks like a mild case of when you have a greasy cellphone screen, except you cannot fucking clean it!!!.

I loooooove how awesome Gsync is and the screen estate and aesthetics of this monitor are ace. But at a $500 price tag I cannot ignore its shortcoming, I'm going to eat a restocking fee from stupid ass Newegg and save that money for either an Acer or for whatever gsync panel comes next.

Hmm, thank you for the feedback - that's super interesting. I kinda figured I'd buy it from Best Buy and then return it if I didn't like it. But maybe I should just go to Frys this weekend and take a look at all of their monitors in person instead.
 
Hmm, thank you for the feedback - that's super interesting. I kinda figured I'd buy it from Best Buy and then return it if I didn't like it. But maybe I should just go to Frys this weekend and take a look at all of their monitors in person instead.

You can test the ghosting and the antiglare with whites. Browse neogaf on white theme or type a bunch of giberish on notepad and scroll up and down to see the ghosting.

Not much to test with colors. This monitor does fantastic on dark colors and WITH CALIBRATION (very important!) the colors look awesome.*edit: and the antiglare is not very noticeable on colorful images, games etc

Some people tolerate ghosting of text (like I do), some tolerate the antiglare (I fucking hate it). Which is why I recommend anyone looking into it to experience it first or get it from a place that doesnt charge restocking fees.
 
Honestly, Don't! (or at least make sure you spend some serious time with it at a local shop)
Read my last few posts on this thread.

I managed to get the colors to pop but at the price of increased ghosting, in addition to that the anti glare coating will silently kill you while you try to willfully ignore it. It looks like a mild case of when you have a greasy cellphone screen, except you cannot fucking clean it!!!.

I loooooove how awesome Gsync is and the screen estate and aesthetics of this monitor are ace. But at a $500 price tag I cannot ignore its shortcoming, I'm going to eat a restocking fee from stupid ass Newegg and save that money for either an Acer or for whatever gsync panel comes next.
You can test the ghosting and the antiglare with whites. Browse neogaf on white theme or type a bunch of giberish on notepad and scroll up and down to see the ghosting.

Not much to test with colors. This monitor does fantastic on dark colors and WITH CALIBRATION (very important!) the colors look awesome.*edit: and the antiglare is not very noticeable on colorful images, games etc

Some people tolerate ghosting of text (like I do), some tolerate the antiglare (I fucking hate it). Which is why I recommend anyone looking into it to experience it first or get it from a place that doesnt charge restocking fees.


I agree with this for the most part. Although I do like mine, a lot has to do with the price/performance.

After using it, I would be disappointed if I had paid $500 for it. I bought mine refurb for $380 after tax from Dell. ($350 before, then I had sold my old 144 for $200, essentially making my purchase $180 for this thing.)
 
Quick Question for the PC Gamers here.

If you had to choose one of the following for gaming. Which would be best?

1. 1440 Resolution, 60hz
2. 1080 Resolution, 144hz.

What are the benefits of both, and is it worth getting a 144hz Monitor if it's not Gsync / Freesync?
 
2, no question. If you really want to play at a higher resolution you can just downsample, you can't fake high frame rates. But really if you're getting a new monitor for gaming and you can afford it you really should go gsync/freesync. It's a game changer.
 
Quick Question for the PC Gamers here.

If you had to choose one of the following for gaming. Which would be best?

1. 1440 Resolution, 60hz
2. 1080 Resolution, 144hz.

What are the benefits of both, and is it worth getting a 144hz Monitor if it's not Gsync / Freesync?

1080/144hz.

IMO, once you go over 60hz for gaming, there's no going back. The 100/120/140hz monitors will improve your overall computer experience much more than the resolution bump will.

That said, I wouldn't buy a new monitor for gaming if it didn't support one or both of the adaptive sync technologies.
 
Does gsync make a difference in Overwatch? Im not sure Im seeing any of its benefits.

Overwatch is probably the one game that benefits the most from gsync because the stylized art style and broad animations are heightened with tearing elimination and a smooth framerate.
 
I guess you'll be pushing max refresh on your monitor with a 1080 anyway in this game, so there is probably no benefit to have.

I average around 100 frames in Overwatch. When it drops to like 80 frames I can always tell.

And isnt tearing only a thing when you go above your refresh rate? Ive never had issues with tearing within the refresh rate of my monitor.
 
1080/144hz.

IMO, once you go over 60hz for gaming, there's no going back. The 100/120/140hz monitors will improve your overall computer experience much more than the resolution bump will.

That said, I wouldn't buy a new monitor for gaming if it didn't support one or both of the adaptive sync technologies.

My new monitor came in today and.. Holy shit.. 144ghz is AMAZING. I can't believe I waited this long to upgrade. The difference is very noticeable. .
 
I picked up a Dell S2716DG from Microcenter mostly because I was curious about G-Sync and moreso high refresh rate monitors, but so far I'm a little underwhelmed. Partially due to the display itself... I think this panel is kind of gross looking out of the box (haven't calibrated it yet) but also because I haven't really seen a huge difference in my limited time with it (maybe an hour of trying things like Doom, Overwatch, and some other things I have installed).

I can feel a difference, in Overwatch at least, and that's actually pretty great. I'm just not sure for someone like me who doesn't *need* a new monitor right now if I'd feel like the cost would be justified. Going to keep trying it of course, but I may end up returning this.

Anything I should absolutely try that might get me to change my mind?
 
Does anyone have this Dell 27"? It's pretty affordable and has decent reviews: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27-led-gsync-monitor-black/5293502.p?id=bb5293502&skuId=5293502

I've got this monitor and I find it awesome. There's ghosting if you use certain settings and colors are not of course as good as an IPS one but it has awesome build quality. From past experiences Acer and Asus (same 2k 144hz) they have tons of problems and it's pretty much a lottery to get a good model. If you can get for 500$ and are ok with the TN panel I would say go for it.

I picked up a Dell S2716DG from Microcenter mostly because I was curious about G-Sync and moreso high refresh rate monitors, but so far I'm a little underwhelmed. Partially due to the display itself... I think this panel is kind of gross looking out of the box (haven't calibrated it yet) but also because I haven't really seen a huge difference in my limited time with it (maybe an hour of trying things like Doom, Overwatch, and some other things I have installed).

I can feel a difference, in Overwatch at least, and that's actually pretty great. I'm just not sure for someone like me who doesn't *need* a new monitor right now if I'd feel like the cost would be justified. Going to keep trying it of course, but I may end up returning this.

Anything I should absolutely try that might get me to change my mind?

Well, you should calibrate it. These are my settings:

Yellows icc:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/...r-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1890#post_24862120

OSD:
Brigthness: 75 Contrast 55
Color : 98 99 96

Nvidia settings:
Brightness: 52 Contrast: 50 Gamma: 0.75
Hue: 355

I really like colors this way and have no ghosting at all.
 
I've got this monitor and I find it awesome. There's ghosting if you use certain settings and colors are not of course as good as an IPS one but it has awesome build quality. From past experiences Acer and Asus (same 2k 144hz) they have tons of problems and it's pretty much a lottery to get a good model. If you can get for 500$ and are ok with the TN panel I would say go for it.



Well, you should calibrate it. These are my settings:

Yellows icc:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/...r-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1890#post_24862120

OSD:
Brigthness: 75 Contrast 55
Color : 98 99 96

Nvidia settings:
Brightness: 52 Contrast: 50 Gamma: 0.75
Hue: 355

I really like colors this way and have no ghosting at all.

Thanks for those- that did in fact make a noticeable difference for the better.
 
Anyone in here care to comment on brightness levels of the AOC G2460PG? I have to have my monitor on for a good hour or so before it calms down. Everything looks really blown out when I first turn it on. Wondering if this is how they all perform or if it's just mine. Not a dealbreaker by any means as I am very pleased with it, I just wish I didn't have to have it on for an extended period of time before it looks right. I've wasted lots of time trying to calibrate it, not knowing it was still "warming up", so to speak.

I just wanted to reply to my own post, because I figured out a major issue I was having with my monitor. The "blown out" issue I have for the first ten minutes or so of it being on still persists, but overall the colours on this thing also just looked really faded. I was using a slight variation of the settings found here to calibrate the monitor: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aoc-g2460pg-g-sync-monitor,4005-3.html What it ended up being was the contrast being set to low. I increased it and now I am just blown away by the picture on this thing. Here are my settings below, for anyone curious:

Contrast 55
Brightness 100
Gamma 1
Overdrive Light

R 57
G 60
B 61
 
Wanted to bump this to let anyone interested in Dells 27" 1440p gsync monitor know that it's on sale this week for $480 from Best Buy. It was on sale for $500 last week - I didn't think it would get any cheaper.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27.../5293502.p?id=bb5293502&skuId=5293502&cmp=RMX

I picked one up, should be here Thursday. If I end up not liking it I can just return it, so biting at that price was an easy choice.

I got one from Newegg about a month back. I have a sort of old Dell U2412M which is an IPS and I just couldn't stand the color reproduction on this panel. I spent like a week tweaking it and I couldn't get things to look right.

I'm kind of posting this as a warning that if you're used to a higher end IPS panel this thing even if its the best TN panel ever made is likely going to bug you.
 
I just wanted to reply to my own post, because I figured out a major issue I was having with my monitor. The "blown out" issue I have for the first ten minutes or so of it being on still persists, but overall the colours on this thing also just looked really faded. I was using a slight variation of the settings found here to calibrate the monitor: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aoc-g2460pg-g-sync-monitor,4005-3.html What it ended up being was the contrast being set to low. I increased it and now I am just blown away by the picture on this thing. Here are my settings below, for anyone curious:

Contrast 55
Brightness 100
Gamma 1
Overdrive Light

R 57
G 60
B 61

What about the settings for the control panel? Everything default?
 
Anybody have experience with using a console or any HDMI output only devices with one of these monitors? My AOC G2460PG only got a Displayport In so I'm using a HDMI-to-DP adapter on a regular HDMI cable but my monitor won't pick up the signal from my PS4.
 
Anybody have experience with using a console or any HDMI output only devices with one of these monitors? My AOC G2460PG only got a Displayport In so I'm using a HDMI-to-DP adapter on a regular HDMI cable but my monitor won't pick up the signal from my PS4.

What's your HDMI-DP adapter?
 
Anybody have experience with using a console or any HDMI output only devices with one of these monitors? My AOC G2460PG only got a Displayport In so I'm using a HDMI-to-DP adapter on a regular HDMI cable but my monitor won't pick up the signal from my PS4.

You need a converter. Not an adapter.

This
 
You need a converter. Not an adapter.

This

Thank you!

From reading some of the description and customer reviews, it seems like people primarily use this to go the other way around (connecting a laptop to a HDMI port on a TV for example) but this should still work for my scenario, right?
 
What do you mean?

Here's a picture for what it's worth:

You need a converter. Not an adapter.

This

No. They won't work. Both of them. They are DisplayPort out to HDMI in. What we need here is HDMI out to DisplayPort in.

And that kind of adapter will cost a lot. Like this: https://www.startech.com/ca/AV/Converters/Video/Active-HDMI-or-DVI-to-DisplayPort-Converter~HDMI2DP

But even then, I am not sure it will work. Basically the PS4 will need to know what protocol to use and the adapter won't be able to supply it. It will default to 480p resolution, which the monitor doesn't support.

Unfortunately I do not know how to make it work.
 
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