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G1 Climax 24 |OT| New Japan Pro-Wrestling
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British Monsoon
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WHAT THE FUCK?!?! Goddamn.
How the hell has Doc ended up with 8 points, Honma with 0. Fucking bullshit.
How the hell has Doc ended up with 8 points, Honma with 0. Fucking bullshit.
Jado and Gedo get boners for big fat gaijins now. This is the future of the company, and it's shitty as hell.
Net_Wrecker
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Fale does have some good music though
British Monsoon
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If you really think Doc Gallows is the future of the company, I don't know what to say - Shibata wasn't winning the whole thing this year, but he got big wins over Tanahashi & Nakamura. Isn't that enough? I guess not.
Only you could be so utterly pessimistic about New Japan amid one of the best tournaments in recent memory.
Every G1 is 'one of the best tournaments in recent memory.' I'm sure I could find posts of you saying the exact same thing last year and the year before that. This tournament has been incredibly disappointing to me because of A) the lack of new talent and B) The lack of a build for new talent other than two slobs who shouldn't be in the tournament in the first place. No matter how amazing the matches might be, it doesn't matter when I know what it's building up to and what ti's not building up to. Just like Ricochet won Super Jr, and I have yet to see ANYTHING built off of it. It's like New Japan decides 'ok tournaments over back to your regular programming' and this will be no different.
Sorry if I'm not going to get excited about G1 where the big push wins are Shelton Benjamin, Festus, and Bad Luck Fale. And the usual Tanahashi, Shinsuke, Okada-fest. I don't even like AJ, but he's been one of the few spotlights on this tournament of someone different.
Sorry, it may be a little over the top, but I'm not excited about NJPW's future if they keep drifting like this. It's all in the now. There doesn't feel like a bright future being built.
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Dragonzord, you'd have a point if only there weren't like 15 MOTY contenders from this G1.
They're winning today, tomorrow will take care of itself. Or not, whatever.
They're winning today, tomorrow will take care of itself. Or not, whatever.
British Monsoon
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You're still bent out of shape about Naito, amazing. Not sure what New Japan are supposed to do about a significant section of the audience turning on him.
You probably could, because the match quality in the G1 is always off the charts, especially last year with the tough schedule and even more so this year.
They didn't build anything off it because a) he's an outside guy not contracted to New Japan and b) because he fucking LOST his title shot. Also, how the fuck can you say it'll be no different for the G1 when the winner (presuming it's not AJ) wins a title shot at the biggest show of the year and the next 4 months will be spent building towards that?
The big pushes, beside Okada/Shinsuke/Tana, have been Shibata, Fale, Styles, Suzuki & Naito. Also, you might be sick of Okada/Shinsuke/Tana, but the paying audience aren't and New Japan have two domes to sell out in the next four months.
*edit, I get your point about there being no 'bright future' that they're building towards - they need a rival for Okada from his generation and there aren't any candidates.
You probably could, because the match quality in the G1 is always off the charts, especially last year with the tough schedule and even more so this year.
Dragonzord said:
They didn't build anything off it because a) he's an outside guy not contracted to New Japan and b) because he fucking LOST his title shot. Also, how the fuck can you say it'll be no different for the G1 when the winner (presuming it's not AJ) wins a title shot at the biggest show of the year and the next 4 months will be spent building towards that?
Dragonzord said:
The big pushes, beside Okada/Shinsuke/Tana, have been Shibata, Fale, Styles, Suzuki & Naito. Also, you might be sick of Okada/Shinsuke/Tana, but the paying audience aren't and New Japan have two domes to sell out in the next four months.
*edit, I get your point about there being no 'bright future' that they're building towards - they need a rival for Okada from his generation and there aren't any candidates.
British Monsoon
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Yeah, Styles got dumped on the point of his skull by that spider German from Makabe, looked rough.
As it stands, the final is Nakamura vs Styles - however, if Tanahashi wins then Nakamura is out of the running, so it'll be Tanahashi vs Styles, but if Okada beats Suzuki then Styles will be out of the running, so yeah, some combination of; Tanahashi/Nakamura vs Styles/Okada for the finals.
Rhaknar said:
As it stands, the final is Nakamura vs Styles - however, if Tanahashi wins then Nakamura is out of the running, so it'll be Tanahashi vs Styles, but if Okada beats Suzuki then Styles will be out of the running, so yeah, some combination of; Tanahashi/Nakamura vs Styles/Okada for the finals.
jesus christ Okada, I know yujiro is a dick but you dont have to almost decapitate the man with Rainmaker 
I had to watch it again it was so stiff lol
you guys werent kidding about day 8, and I assume Tanahashi vs Nakamura wont disapoint either
I had to watch it again it was so stiff lol
you guys werent kidding about day 8, and I assume Tanahashi vs Nakamura wont disapoint either
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HOLY WHAT
WAAAAAAAAAAAT
WAAAAAAAAAAAT
British Monsoon
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Oh shit, it's happening, friends!
Nakamura vs Okada/Styles in the final, going to be amazing either way.
Nakamura vs Okada/Styles in the final, going to be amazing either way.
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Net_Wrecker
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OMG that match was amazing.
And that Rainmaker JEEEEEEEEEZUS
And that Rainmaker JEEEEEEEEEZUS
serenewarfare
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Wow. MOTY right there. Maybe an all-time favorite for me. Just incredible.
British Monsoon
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Suzuki's bump on the Rainmaker was disgusting, what a match though - Suzuki is a fucking master at structuring his bouts, while Okada sold like a goddamn champ for him (the way he crumbled after the big punch from Suzuki, for instance. Perfect).
Yeah, it'll likely have 10 matches - probably some random tag matches, but also maybe a NEVER or Intercontinental Title defence.
NJPW, "G1 CLIMAX - FINAL", 2014/08/10
Seibu Dome
15:00 JST | 08:00 EU | 07:00 UK | 02:00 EDT | 23:00 PDT
01. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Titles: Time Splitters (Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA) © vs reDRagon (Bobby Fish & Kyle O'Reilly)
02. Special Tag Match: Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Captain New Japan vs Adam Cole & Mike Bennett
03. G1 Climax Special Singles Match:
04. 24th G1 Climax FINAL:
Rhaknar said:
Yeah, it'll likely have 10 matches - probably some random tag matches, but also maybe a NEVER or Intercontinental Title defence.
NJPW, "G1 CLIMAX - FINAL", 2014/08/10
Seibu Dome
15:00 JST | 08:00 EU | 07:00 UK | 02:00 EDT | 23:00 PDT
01. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Titles: Time Splitters (Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA) © vs reDRagon (Bobby Fish & Kyle O'Reilly)
02. Special Tag Match: Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Captain New Japan vs Adam Cole & Mike Bennett
03. G1 Climax Special Singles Match:
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs AJ Styles
Shinsuke Nakamura vs Kazuchika Okada
The Yo Tornado
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Surprised they're going with Okada/Nakamura so early. I thought they would save that for Wrestle Kingdom. Still super hyped, though. Tana/AJ should be a lot of fun too. Can't wait for the finals.
isnt wrestle kingdom the january show? wont that be Okada vs AJ rematch for the title? thats what I thought this whole G1 was leading to
serenewarfare
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I think it'll be Nakamura vs. AJ. A fresh match-up would mean more for that show than the 4th match between Styles and Okada.
British Monsoon
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The working theory was that Okada defeats AJ on the opening night of the G1 to set up a title shot (which he did), loses to Shinsuke in the final, wins the belt from Styles at the next PPV and then defends the belt vs Nakamura at Wrestle Kingdom.
The Yo Tornado
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I thought either Okada or Nakamura would win the G1 while the other would beat AJ prior to Wrestle Kingdom. A CHAOS civil war type angle seemed like a big thing to me. Not that I mind though. AJ's been so fantastic since going to NJPW that he can hold that title as long as he wants as far as I'm concerned.
serenewarfare
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I don't see Styles dropping the belt before WK. If that was the case and they planned on doing Nak vs. Okada in January, why do it now and not let WK be the first big match-up between the two?
I think the more likely scenario is that Styles keeps the IWGP belt and Tanahashi wins the IC belt between now and WK. Then you have Tana/Okada for the IC belt and Nak/Styles for the IWGP title.
British Monsoon
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Because there hasn't been any build for it - this way Nakamura can beat Okada to really set up their rivalry and the implications it'll have for CHAOS as a whole. Then the pay-offs at Wrestle Kingdom.
serenewarfare
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Maybe. I'd be fine with either scenario honestly. They both make sense and would lead to great matches.
Thanks for the info, I'll be catching up with G1 over the weekend and will definitely be having a look at Wrestle Kingdom.
British Monsoon
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Definitely, Nakamura vs Styles would be a great main event for the Tokyo Dome, but it'd mean they either ignore Okada's win over AJ or Okada takes another loss to Styles.
Incidentally, now the block stage is done, here's the potential title challengers for the various belts;
IWGP Heavyweight Title: Styles vs Okada, Naito
IWGP Intercontinental Title: Bad Luck Fale vs Shelton, Kojima, Gallows, Davey Boy
NEVER Openweight Title: Yujiro Takahashi vs Goto, Tenzan, Suzuki, Anderson, Okada, Styles
For the NEVER belt you can obviously discount Okada & Suzuki who ain't got time for that shit, Anderson & AJ because they're Bullet Club, leaving Goto & Tenzan as possible challengers. For the IC title Gallows wouldn't challenge as a fellow Bullet Club member, but Shelton, Kojima & Davey Boy could be pretty good matches for Fale. I'd like to see Kojima get a run with the title, or Davey. Lastly, the IWGP title - if Styles is holding the belt until Wrestle Kingdom, then defences against Okada & Naito will cover him until Power Struggle in November, which is usually the final defence before Wrestle Kingdom.
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Seibu Dome show announced in full:
1. Special Eight Man Tag Match: Lance Archer, Davey Boy Smith Jr., TAKA Michinoku & El Desperado vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi
2. Special Six Man Tag Match: Bad Luck Fale, Doc Gallows & Yujiro Takahashi vs. Togi Makabe, Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi
3. Special Six Man Tag Match: Mioru Suzuki, Takashi Iizuka & Shelton Benjamin vs. Toru Yan, Kazushi Sakuraba & YOSHI-HASHI
4. Special Tag Match: Jushin Thunder Liger & Captain New Japan vs. Adam Cole & Michael Bennett (w/ Maria Kanellis)
5. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA (c) vs. Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish
6. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Tetsuya Naito vs. Tomoaki Honma
7. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Tomohiro Ishii vs. Karl Anderson
8. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata
9. G1 Climax Special Singles Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. AJ Styles
10. G1 Climax - Final: Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kazuchika Okada
Please god let Nakanishi rest.
1. Special Eight Man Tag Match: Lance Archer, Davey Boy Smith Jr., TAKA Michinoku & El Desperado vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi
2. Special Six Man Tag Match: Bad Luck Fale, Doc Gallows & Yujiro Takahashi vs. Togi Makabe, Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi
3. Special Six Man Tag Match: Mioru Suzuki, Takashi Iizuka & Shelton Benjamin vs. Toru Yan, Kazushi Sakuraba & YOSHI-HASHI
4. Special Tag Match: Jushin Thunder Liger & Captain New Japan vs. Adam Cole & Michael Bennett (w/ Maria Kanellis)
5. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA (c) vs. Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish
6. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Tetsuya Naito vs. Tomoaki Honma
7. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Tomohiro Ishii vs. Karl Anderson
8. G1 Climax 24 Special Singles Match: Hirooki Goto vs. Katsuyori Shibata
9. G1 Climax Special Singles Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. AJ Styles
10. G1 Climax - Final: Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kazuchika Okada
Please god let Nakanishi rest.
Net_Wrecker
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New Japan, chill. Let Ishii breathe.
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Fortunately Karl is a soft touch.
G1 Tournament over and we're right back to Yano vs. Suzuki. Not a lot of compelling stuff going on in that first half of the card, but from the tag title match on it's gonna be real fucking dope. I'll be interested to see how Adam Cole does in New Japan. Couldn't care less about Bennett, but at least he'll probably bring Maria along.
serenewarfare
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That final 6 looks fantastic.
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Naito vs Honma should be a lot of fun and he might get a win there, even though it's after the fact. How will Naito be received at the Dome?
British Monsoon
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Naito should be fine, it's only the Korakuen & Osaka crowds that seem to have a problem with him - I don't think Honma's winning though, as Naito has a win over AJ and will likely be in line for a title shot at some point. He's not in the best position to put Honma over.
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