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[Deleted member 10571]

Dude, they are manhandling and beating people at sit-ins and are destroying equipment at campsites for no reason.

Along with constant verbal abuse and threats.

There's plenty law enforcement here just waiting to bust heads.

Oh no, verbal abuse.

That's just not true - right now there's a big demonstration at the harbor, peaceful, fully cooperative (if not friendly) with the police.
No burning cars, buildings, water guns or bricks thrown.

 

[mnz]

Dude, they are manhandling and beating people at sit-ins and are destroying equipment at campsites for no reason.

Along with constant verbal abuse and threats.

There's plenty law enforcement here just waiting to bust heads.

Even if that's true (which I have not see a recording of yet, especially the sit-in removal was very calm), the point still stands. If I were right-wing, I would hope this escalates just to have new material.

edit: Another thing. This whole idea that "if the police sucks, we have to destroy this city" makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

 

[fuenf]

from welt.de

Straftaten mit Gefahr für Leib und Leben

Laut der Polizei werden stadtweit Straftaten mit Gefahr für Leib und Leben begangen. Vor dem Hotel des US-Außenministers stehen derzeit 500 Vermummte.

Beamte, die bis vor zwei Stunden im Einsatz waren und schlafen müssten, wurden in den Dienst geholt. Bisher gibt es 130 verletzte Polizisten. Einer von ihnen bekam einen Böller in den Kragen und erlitt schwere Verbrennungen. Der Feuerkörper drang bis an sein Gesicht, seine Netzhaut verbrannte.

A police men got a firecracker in his collar and his eyes were burnt... fuck these so called protesters. fuck off extremist.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Only thing this will accomplish is getting tons of new supporters of the far right. Well done, idiots.

 

[Siegcram]

Only thing this will accomplish is getting tons of new supporters of the far right. Well done, idiots.

God forbid the people on the right are ever responsible for their own actions.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Only thing this will accomplish is getting tons of new supporters of the far right. Well done, idiots.

The idea of that you're gonna be able to govern a street mob of thousands of people and not expect violent outbursts in a riot is stupid.

I mean they're not going to run the article about "PoliceMan Falls Over, Is Picked Up By Rioters" are they? Even if it did happen they wouldn't do it.

The Far Right are also probably part of the riot.

So trying to litigate a fucking riot going "oh this diminishes the cause" is bullshit frankly. If we were going to analyse every untoward piece of police brutality during any protests, whose cause is that gonna help? I mean it's not going to shift demographics in either way.

This shit is all totally expected, and yeah there's going to be more violence on both sides, take heart in the knowledge that it will continue to grow in furor upon each event.

 

[Nivash]

What's with economic forums getting anarchist dickheads all riled up? It's like every single one has clashes with police and shit.

Dumbasses.

It's an event that repeats every year with informally agreed upon rules - rioters trash stuff but don't go completely overboard, police try to prevent them trashing stuff but also show some restraint. It's like a game to them. Both sides follow the rules and no-one gets too badly hurt.

Think of it like Black Block Superbowl.

 

[mnz]

This shit is all totally expected, and yeah there's going to be more violence on both sides, take heart in the knowledge that it will continue to grow in furor upon each event.

What are the two sides here?

 

[Kinyou]

God forbid the people on the right are ever responsible for their own actions.

Doesn't change that it will happen.
These riots are pointless and should be condemned by everyone

Also I find this a bit ironic after you tried to shift blame from the protesters onto the police.

 

[Xando]

Police officially calling in all available units from around germany since they say to partially lost control of the situation

 

[GAMEPROFF]

What are the two sides here?

The police escalated a lot of things.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

The police escalated a lot of things.

Depends on the viewpoint. I mean if someone is putting up camps on private property, of course the police needs to remove the people from there.

 

[Siegcram]

Doesn't change that it will happen.
These riots are pointless and should be condemned by everyone

Also I find this a bit ironic after you tried to shift blame from the protesters onto the police.

I didn't, I just said the police aren't exactly the victims here and are just as guilty for escalating things like the bloc.

They used watercannons on people on rooftops ffs.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Depends on the viewpoint. I mean if someone is putting up camps on private property, of course the police needs to remove the people from there.

I am talking about the demonstration

 

[mnz]

The police escalated a lot of things.

I just don't understand why you have to burn cars and destroy buildings because of that. Makes no sense.

And where is the proof of that escalation? I'm not even doubting it, but everything gets recorded nowadays.

 

[fuenf]

I am talking about the demonstration

yesterday? the whole demonstration was a setup for violence... the police actually handled things pretty reasonable. I fully agreed with their tactic to isolate the black block, things escalated when a smoke bomb went off and idiots started throwing stuff... there's no excuse for violent protest here. if you want to prove that the police goes overboard take a camera, take pictures and dont resist but dont throw things at them and escalate things further.

 

[IHaveIce]

Hamburg citizen here, of course I would see people on gaf singling out the police.
Seriously the other side is way worse here and you experience it if you live here. What a shitshow

Also if you announce something as 'welcome to hell' .. this was going to end bad.

 

[PnCIa]

Dude, they are manhandling and beating people at sit-ins and are destroying equipment at campsites for no reason.

Along with constant verbal abuse and threats.

There's plenty law enforcement here just waiting to bust heads.

I didn't, I just said the police aren't exactly the victims here and are just as guilty for escalating things like the bloc.

They used watercannons on people on rooftops ffs.

You seem to be awfully concerned about those poor people burning cars and throwing fire crackers at the police.
While some questionable actions are coming from the side of the police (mainly clearing that camp), none of it is comparable to the actions described in here by those violent assholes destroying the protests for eveyone else.
Also, back your claims.

 

[fuenf]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

I just don't understand why you have to burn cars and destroy buildings because of that. Makes no sense.

And where is the proof of that escalation? I'm not even doubting it, but everything gets recorded nowadays.

http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/...m_g_20_auftakt_dlf_20170707_0612_4157cd0d.mp3

German public broadcasting radio. In german of course, but the reporter is pretty blown away by the way the police handled the whole thing. Even shit outlets like N24 have a similar opinion.
Reading International News on this topic seems like a waste of time, when they dont even get that this is not a Trump-only protetest, but I see that the language barrier is problem, so stuff like this may not even be communicated to you.

And I agree on that burning cars and destroying buildings is unnecessary. At some point, things just blow out of control sadly.

 

[Bl@de]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

You don't understand. It's the police who is at fault here. They were just defending themselves by burning cars of innocent people and destroying things.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

You don't understand. It's the police who is at fault here. They were just defending themselves by burning cars of innocent people and destroying things.

Good shitpost.

Most people dont say that its all the fault of the police, they just did also big mistakes.

 

[IHaveIce]

http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/...m_g_20_auftakt_dlf_20170707_0612_4157cd0d.mp3

German public broadcasting radio. In german of course, but the reporter is pretty blown away by the way the police handled the whole thing. Even shit outlets like N24 have a similar opinion.
Reading International News on this topic seems like a waste of time, when they dont even get that this is not a Trump-only protetest, but I see that the language barrier is problem, so stuff like this may not even be communicated to you.

And I agree on that burning cars and destroying buildings is unnecessary. At some point, things just blow out of control sadly.

Blow out of control? You know as well as I do that the people had no other intention than riots and violence.
The police got some that had nothing to do with it, yeah but they are still pretty calm for what happens here.

 

[Shiggy]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

Disgusting scum. These people just want to destroy with no real intention, on other days they typically don't have the opportunity to do so.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Blow out of control? You know as well as I do that the people had no other intention than riots and violence.
The police got some that had nothing to do with it, yeah but they are still pretty calm for what happens here.

Yes. You can clearly see the differen tone in the demonstration of yesterday and today. Night and day.

 

[mnz]

http://ondemand-mp3.dradio.de/file/...m_g_20_auftakt_dlf_20170707_0612_4157cd0d.mp3

German public broadcasting radio. In german of course, but the reporter is pretty blown away by the way the police handled the whole thing. Even shit outlets like N24 have a similar opinion.
Reading International News on this topic seems like a waste of time, when they dont even get that this is not a Trump-only protetest, but I see that the language barrier is problem, so stuff like this may not even be communicated to you.

And I agree on that burning cars and destroying buildings is unnecessary. At some point, things just blow out of control sadly.

This reporter doesn't understand why they wanted to separate the black block from the rest and why they went in hard when they were masked and armed with all sorts of shit before the demonstration even began. Not really convincing...

 

[Costa Kid]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

Not the Audi Q7! Who does that?

 

[Nivash]

Not the Audi Q7! Who does that?

Looks like they left the small purple compact alone though. Maybe they think they're making a statement by torching "luxury" brands.

But yeah. Poor Audi. It deserved better.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Looks like they left the small purple compact alone though. Maybe they think they're making a statement by torching "luxury" brands.

But yeah. Poor Audi. It deserved better.

Nah, they are not making statements. There is no thought behind this other then: let's fuck things up.

 

[Lonely1]

Is this worse than other summits or part of the course?

 

[fuenf]

Looks like they left the small purple compact alone though. Maybe they think they're making a statement by torching "luxury" brands.

But yeah. Poor Audi. It deserved better.

They didn't you can see one guy smashing its windows and setting it on fire.

 

[HarryHengst]

Depends on the viewpoint. I mean if someone is putting up camps on private property, of course the police needs to remove the people from there.

Abolish all private property, for it is the devil that sets man against man.

 

[Xando]

Is this worse than other summits or part of the course?

Dunno but police expect this to get even worse in the evening and tomorrow since the weekend is about to start

 

[Patrick Bateman]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

Why are they burning other peoples cars and especially that one compact car?
I mean I sort of get the burning of luxuary cars with the whole "Herpaderp anti-establishment!", but that?

I have no remorse if police handles them rougher then..

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Looks like they left the small purple compact alone though. .

Looks like the Fiat is also burning.

Abolish all private property, for it is the devil that sets man against man.

Must be okay for me to sleep in their appartment then

 

[Shiggy]

Must be okay for me to sleep in their appartment then

You mean the apartments they squat?

 

[chadskin]

@DWnews

#G20 update: @FLOTUS Melania Trump unable to leave residence in #Hamburg for spouses event due to security reasons (@dpa)

Convenient excuse. Event includes a visit to an institute researching climate change.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

You mean the apartments they squat?

Im sure not all the people who camp on private/"public" property without a permission are squatters.

 

[waveuponwave]

Is this worse than other summits or part of the course?

The smaller summits (G7, G8) are usually held in a lot more secluded locations, so the situation there is much easier to control. No matter how big the police presence is, they can't be everywhere in a city as big as Hamburg.

But there were also huge protests against the G8 summit in Heiligendamm in 2007. Don't know about the situation at summits in other countries.

In general while it isn't really reflected in our party politics, Germany has a pretty big radical leftist/anarchist scene that can mobilize a lot of people for demonstrations and events like this are their field day

 

[Impeccable]

Convenient excuse. Event includes a visit to an institute researching climate change.

Convenient indeed.

 

[Nivash]

Nah, they are not making statements. There is no thought behind this other then: let's fuck things up.

They didn't you can see one guy smashing its windows and setting it on fire.

Looks like the Fiat is also burning.

Welp. No mercy for prole cars either I guess.

Is this worse than other summits or part of the course?

Looks about the same as usual to me. Maybe a few more injured officers than usual, but nothing dramatic or unexpected. That's what makes this even more stupid - it's been the same story for what, 20 years or more, and it never changes anything. It really is just an excuse to wreck stuff at this point.

I mean the Black Block aren't event "protesting" anything specific, just "capitalism" in general, as if that makes any sense.

 

[Blablurn]

They literally closed down huge parts of Hangzhou, China, last year, which is obviously impossible in Germany. But China went crazy last year.

 

[DieNgamers]

The smaller summits (G7, G8) are usually held in a lot more secluded locations, so the situation there is much easier to control. No matter how big the police presence is, they can't be everywhere in a city as big as Hamburg.

But there were also huge protests against the G8 summit in Heiligendamm in 2007. Don't know about the situation at summits in other countries.

In general while it isn't really reflected in our party politics, Germany has a pretty big radical leftist/anarchist scene that can mobilize a lot of people for demonstrations and events like this are their field day

There were riots in the street of my art school back then. Shit was BRUTAL and the place where we used to park our cars was totally demolished. Found a compilation of it (make sure to mute the video, though, argh)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9MmnQ0OsQc

Same shit as in Hamburg but on a smaller scale, fortunately.

 

[Kinyou]

They literally closed down huge parts of Hangzhou, China, last year, which is obviously impossible in Germany. But China went crazy last year.

As much as I dislike these riots, I'm glad that we're far off from handling things like china.

 

[Guy.brush]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7sRjonStJv0 holyshit i cant fathom how anybody can support this shit, they should all be locked up for at least 5 years.

All those cars they are hitting and destroying are cars lower and middle class people own.
If you are anti-fa wouldn't you want to at least hit a Mercedes or BMW?
Talk about fighting against your own kind. Well they probably don't even have a cause for it other than blind rage.

 

[Xando]

Just went to aldi to get something for lunch and trash cans were burning everywhere.

50-100 protesters but police nowhere to be seen.

20k cops in the city and still there’s chaos everywhere

 

[paperboywriter]

"Shut down the logistics of capital. Build up communism!"

My familiy came to Germany after the fall of the soviet union. Is saddens me to see idiots like that in the street.

Allowing those people to demonstrate is a step forward in German politics though.
Not condoning the violence of course.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Please disperse, nothing to see here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvCjHyTDwA

 

[cameron]

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/883278413422886912

 

[hobblygobbly]

There are many more protesters coming in from other cities and towns now for the weekend, it is why I heard police are getting more reinforcements now too to prepare considering they have already miscalculated the preparation for current situation.