Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The entire south has co-signed him.. Also when it is time David Banner will wave the KRIT flag like no other.
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The entire south has co-signed him.. Also when it is time David Banner will wave the KRIT flag like no other.
Knux-Future
Banned
Donnis is generic as fuck. But XV is just starting get nation play with 2k12 and that Verizon commercial.
But neither of them are big time. I think XV is really good tho. The constant Zero Hero mentions make me remember how good that tape is.
spindashing
Banned
You are amongst brothers.
Well, XV released Zero Heroes earlier this year, didn't he?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
How do you figure.. He has done stuff with like almost every major artist from the south..
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
no
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at least i really hope not. i ve liked everything krit has done so far so i doubt he will he will fuck up. even if he does drop, i am sure he'll get back.
Knux-Future
Banned
Banner already cosigned KRIT, doesn't he mention that in Viktorious?
Anyways, most South cosigns don't mean jack shit in the grand scheme of things of making him a breakout success, especially the ones KRIT got outside of Tip. Even still Tip is a shaky one.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Lil Wayne won't go to the Bay without 40 water to make sure he don't get hemmed up by the true C-riders... again
he doesnt have that iconic cosign. somebody who's coattails he can ride to success.
wayne -> drake
em -> yela
hov -> cole
even big sean has kanye behind him.
krit is rolling dolo currently.
spindashing
Banned
I might as well start shopping for a good backpack.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
KRIT has bun b.
Nah just change your avatar's background to be indoors and turn those hipster shades into sunglasses and we're good to go.
And the hair.
Bun B has cosigned every new artist mentioned in the last two pages, and Drake the most out of em all. Bun B cosigns don't mean shit.
Glass Rebel
Member
Well sorry but I haven't really had the time to listen to much stuff this time. Mostly digging through some instrumentals, practicing my game to land a feature on the next Bronson.
I liked the SH album but the EP is weak, sue me
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
-cough- -cough-
its cool i am just kidding around. i know how it is.
ill see you in court
RBelong2Us
Member
Well considering none of those artists really needed or were heavy on success due to being associated with those bigger names, I doubt it really matters.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
gotta agree. i kinda think cole could do better if he wasn't with hov.
I cosign this. KRIT will flop guys. We all love him but Def Jam is promoting him terrible.
Rating them with YouTube views:
J. Cole: Work Out = 16.9 millions views
Yelawolf: Pop Trunk = 7.6 million views
Big KRIT: Country Shit = 5.4 million views
And the reason Drake did 700k first week
Drake: Rihanna - What's My Name? ft. Drake = 219,727,981 million views
Drake: Find your love = 47 million views
Not looking good for KRIT. :/
cole w/o hov's cosign is another generic underground rapper.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
really KRIT is doing it like most of the successful southern artist.. Luda, Outkast, Banner, Eightball and MJG, UGK..
Yela is flopping and so has every artist but 50 (who was blessed by Dre) has flopped because of Em
Wayne whored Drake out and caught success
Hov delayed and messed with Cole for quite a bit.. I don't think you can say his co-signing did a lot..
In fact getting brought out by another great artist usually doesn't bode very well.. Ask the Outlawz, jr Mafia, AZ, Lynch Mob, DTP, the list of people who had a huge co-sign and flopped badly is a long lonely one..
Next your gonna tell me Dilla is executively producing his album.
I'm not a B.O.B. stan by any means, but I like the guy. I don't mind some pop hip hop every so often like Pitbull for instance. And B.O.B. fits the bill well. In fact I find him more dull when he's trying to go for the "hard" shit, he just comes across as generic. When he's on his pop shit, he comes across like a more likable Andre 3000 (oh shit yes I said it).
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He is that now, but with record sales!
Spliff Star still releases mixtapes.
Glass Rebel
Member
Rebirth of Detroit with every relevant Detroit rapper + KRIT... So just KRIT, I can see that happen.
Nah, I love El, GS and BM
Almost every artist from Shady/Aftermath flops unless Dre executive produces their album. Seriously. Hell, you are lucky to even release an album if your signed with them. As much as i think Em and Dre are great, they are horrible with their labels outside of a few exceptions.
RBelong2Us
Member
The only person that pimped J. Cole out was J. Cole....besides Jay-Z featuring J. Cole on Blueprint 3, there has been little to no support behind him. Shoot, if J. Cole didn't continually give Jay-Z shout outs in every few songs, who would even know that he was signed with him?
it's the central piece of the J. Cole narrative. everybody knows it.
I don't think the masses care as much as we do.. and even still we care very little. It's a street cred kind of thing.
Young Guru said it best, Jay's cosign didn't make Cole's debut a success, Cole's following he build up the past few years without Jay made Cole's debut a success.
I'm still waiting for PhoenixDark to comment on how wrong he was about this single. This week it just hit it's highest peak so far @ #19 on the top 100.
Flop it is not.
So then KRIT has it locked up then...
Cosigns dont matter much anymore. It matters who you get on your singles and how good your singles do. Shit is a business and Drake, Wayne, Etc. have it down to a science. Only people who give a shit about cosigns anymore are hiphop heads, and they dont buy many albums.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
damn strait. like i said, even if he falls, i am 99.9999% sure he will get right back up.
Yeah Yela's problem was he didn't have a monster single. I can potentially see Good Girl and/or Hardest Love Song making a big splash on radio and giving Yela some more sales, but right now he's got Hard White, which is too gritty for a single, and Throw It Up, which doesn't work in clubs and is too vulgar for extreme radio exposure.
Animal might have hit potential too. I think radioactive has potential to have some legs once eminem convinces yela to start focusing on the radio audience.
Animal might have hit potential too. I think radioactive has potential to have some legs once eminem convinces yela to start focusing on the radio audience.
No, because KRIT still doesn't have that mass appeal single. Country Shit was a better effort than Money on the Floor. It's much tougher for Southern artists to break out, simply being from the South is working against him because the masses scoff at that at first, happens every time I try to tell someone about KRIT or Yela. They don't want to hear what they've conceptualized in their head. KRIT needs to get on a B.o.B. single or something and absolutely murk it. He needs to do more songs where he does the hook and actually has a verse too unlike T.I.'s single.
I'm not discrediting KRIT, he's making moves, he has a following, the South loves him, but just cause the South loves him doesn't mean he's transcended into Drake and B.o.B. tier. "X artist will do well just because their good" is simple minded, there's much more to it than that.
Yep, business-oriented folk are always winners at the end of the day. Actually, Jay's management and the way he's handling Roc Nation probably deserve some credit too. They knew when to intervene in the process and how much, pretty much peaking with the Jay feature.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
how many artists has shady signed?
PhoenixDark
Banned
At the time I was right: the single wasn't charting during the build up to the album, and only started charting a few weeks after the album came out.
But I'll still admit I was wrong: I said it didn't sound like a hit, and certainly didn't expect it to turn up in the top 20 like this. Now I'm baffled while Can't Get Enough never went anywhere.
Gotta love Jay-Z. He has barely mentioned Cole in the course of the last year, yet sent Drake a personal congratulations note the minute his soundscan came in. If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about Jay-Z, nothing will. I'm glad Cole managed to make it without Jay dick riding him though, and it looks like Cole will go gold before the end of the year. The album is still selling at a steady pace
To be fair, no one knows if he congratulated Cole. Just because he sent Drake a note, doesnt mean he didnt buy Cole something insane for going #1.
He sent Drake a used napkin, Cole already talked in an interview about how he got the congratulatory Jay phone call after the first week. Cole already got more than Drake, he's just not blowing it up as much.
He probably never bought Cole anything. And if he did Cole should be showing it off cause Drake possessing a napkin with marker on it from Jay-Z is making it look bad in comparison.
Yeah, i was just saying that there is no way Cole didnt get some type of "Congrats" from Jay. When your first artist on your new label goes #1 with his Debut, you dont keep quiet.
We gettin trippy tomorrow
HYPE X 1000
PhoenixDark
Banned
I'd rather have a napkin from Hov than a phone call. When J Cole is homeless on the streets, his career dead and his music forgotten, what's going to keep him warm at night? The memory of a phone call? No. His college degree will keep him warm at night. And that napkin.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
shit. i started to laugh in class.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I bet Hov made that phone call using the I am T-Pain app....
:O lmao.
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