Shady has never had to do any promotion. 50 Cent hit it big with one single, then after that they never had to promote him. D12 sold only because of how popular Em was. The Shady Record Compilation went platinum because of Eminems name. Obie Trice debut went #1 and has sold 900k. Obie fucking trice. Eminem's weed carrier's weed carrier. Eminem and Dre don't know how to market, they have relied on their name to promote since forever.
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Shady has never had to do any promotion. 50 Cent hit it big with one single, then after that they never had to promote him. D12 sold only because of how popular Em was. The Shady Record Compilation went platinum because of Eminems name. Obie Trice debut went #1 and has sold 900k. Obie fucking trice. Eminem's weed carrier's weed carrier. Eminem and Dre don't know how to market, they have relied on their name to promote since forever.
Discotheque
Banned
indeed, it's both laziness and lack of experience. Hopefully this opens their eyes but I doubt it.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I don't think he would have done well during the Crunk era...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
As much as I love Dre and Em... You have to blame them...
flooooooooooooooooop lolololol
PhoenixDark
Banned
Why should they know how to market? Eminem has a history of releasing shit singles and still selling millions. Likewise Dre hasn't released anything of note in like half a decade, yet the mere mention of his name can garner tons of views or sales for an artist.
That "business model" doesn't work for mortals. Yele had no single, wasn't touring crazy hard, and didn't really have the buzz that surrounded the releases of guys like Cole, Sean, etc. Shady should have had Yele grinding on the road, maybe release another mixtape. Then next year go for a spring/summer anthem.
If they fucked up on the white boy, Slaughterhouse has NO chance lol.
That "business model" doesn't work for mortals. Yele had no single, wasn't touring crazy hard, and didn't really have the buzz that surrounded the releases of guys like Cole, Sean, etc. Shady should have had Yele grinding on the road, maybe release another mixtape. Then next year go for a spring/summer anthem.
If they fucked up on the white boy, Slaughterhouse has NO chance lol.
Yes and No, yes Shady is awful(when it comes to marketing) and maybe one of the last choices anyone who wanna have success should go to but unlike Drake who was kinda well known for his role in Degrassi and was hyped as the next great indie artist even in Europe he had no real hype no hit single no nothing. He is just that weird looking dude from the south that eminem signed.
I personally like Yela because he is real charismatic (to me), makes honest music and well seems to be just him but the people who buy records sadly have to have some kind of gimmick (Drug Dealer, Heart Throb, Crazy White Guy). Just good music doesn't sell anymore and if the album is getting mixed reviews on top of that well that equals 40.000 records sold.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
You keep throwing the whiteboy card out there.. But really white boys having a harder time succeeding in hip-hop and that's pretty much a fact.
I never saw the slaughterhouse signing being a wise business decision. Joe Budden is the closest to mainstream. I saw the signing as more of a superficial move, adding some legitmacy to Shady while helping out his friend.
Slaughterhouse doesn't know how to make a song. They just slap four verses on a track and call it good.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
At the end of the day, this is totally true. They are the ones with the final say on who gets signed. But they do have marketing teams behind them, who's job it is to figure out the best ways to promote these artists and sell records.
PhoenixDark
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A white boy co-signed by Eminem? Nah man. White rappers are always more marketable in today's hip hop, dominated by stoner anthems and white girls. I'm not saying any white rapper can make it, but if handled properly it should be easy to catapult a white rapper to stardom. In 2011.
Look at how Roc Nation handled J Cole. He already had a good fanbase, and they sent him on tour with Rihanna. Why didn't Shady try to get Yele on some type of major tour, with Wiz or even Currency's smoker tour? Then consider his singles. Nothing interesting, no anthem, no nothing. I really believe Yele appeals to that demographic, and the best way to sell him would have been to tour him around for a few months while searching for a decent single.
why is rick ross wearing 3 jesus chains?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Em was a monster... And couldn't even get signed until Dre randomly listened to a demo a threw on the floor in his place... Yela isnt a monster and when people see a white rapper they compare him to Em.. Now times that by a million because he is co-signed by Em.
Also besides Em what great "white boy" has been catapulted to success by anyone since Em?
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
Cuz him and jesus are bros. You ain't kno
spindashing
Banned
C'mon son
MorisUkunRasik
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Friend of The People starts off so bad.
That "chorus" on double burger with cheese is nails on a chalkboard.
That "chorus" on double burger with cheese is nails on a chalkboard.
spindashing
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Yessssss.datnewcudi.com said:
Glass Rebel
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Listening through older Roots records in anticipation of Undun and it's just striking how Black Thought always finds a way to say things just right.
That reminded me: What are the cheesiest/lamest lines or verses you've ever heard by a rapper you actually think is good?
I immediately think of Royce's first few lines on Motown 25. Makes me want to skip the whole song. *cringe*
That reminded me: What are the cheesiest/lamest lines or verses you've ever heard by a rapper you actually think is good?
I immediately think of Royce's first few lines on Motown 25. Makes me want to skip the whole song. *cringe*
Fuck yes! Up up and Away was my favourite track from MOTM1. Can't wait!
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
please let this happen.
i am no gif maser. but here's something quick and dirty.
:l
LightOfTruth
Member
OMG YES! I have hope. I have hope guys!! That MOTM III may be as good as the modern classic that is MOTM 1. But we must also have Ratatat.
PLEASE GOD LET THIS ALBUM BE THE SHIT!
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
i'd like to see you do better "gif master"
LightOfTruth
Member
So apparently the Good music album is already mostly done and Big Sean is on 3 songs. Interesting. First single soon please.
Beautiful.
Oh yeah, Camp sold more than Yelawolf.. it's also a much better album. Nobody saw that coming.
52,000.
:O Day One.
That Cooking x Look At Me Now video is great.
Also, bad day for Yela stans. Yeller flopped. I think hes gonna stay on Shady until the 2nd album at least though.
Came here to post about the GOOD Music album. I need to hear that CuDi x Sean x Kanye song now. Anything CuDi and Ye get on together is instantly gold, and having the GOAT on the same song only makes it better.
Cudder reveals some details about MotM3. Hope he gets Common back. Kinda misplaced about it being a true trilogy especially considering MotM2's title change pretty instantly makes the outro to MotM1 off.
EDIT: Wow fail, completely missed spin's post. Oh well.
Also, bad day for Yela stans. Yeller flopped. I think hes gonna stay on Shady until the 2nd album at least though.
Came here to post about the GOOD Music album. I need to hear that CuDi x Sean x Kanye song now. Anything CuDi and Ye get on together is instantly gold, and having the GOAT on the same song only makes it better.
Cudder reveals some details about MotM3. Hope he gets Common back. Kinda misplaced about it being a true trilogy especially considering MotM2's title change pretty instantly makes the outro to MotM1 off.
EDIT: Wow fail, completely missed spin's post. Oh well.
My reaction was toward drake himself. He's quite an interesting dude. The gif is great.
Impressive. I like the ep he put out so that's pretty inspiring.
LightOfTruth
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Yep.
The synergy between the two is incredible.
If CuDi and Kanye did a collabo album, I think I'd explode from the critical stannery levels. CuDi hook + 2 Ye verses and a Cudder spoken word bit over Ye production is a format I could listen to an infinite amount of times.
And Gambino did better than Yela? 52k is fucking impressive for what a dude put out on his own. Good shit, Gambino.
Some of the performances from the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show by Kanye and Jay are up online.
Niggas in Paris
Stronger
Kanye fucking KILLED it with that Stronger performance.
Niggas in Paris
Stronger
Kanye fucking KILLED it with that Stronger performance.
Net_Wrecker
Member
So Jay-Z straight up rejected "cray" on his own track?
Makes me sort of happy.
Makes me sort of happy.
Honestly, I have to give props to Mac Miller and Donald Glover- they each hustled, in their own unique ways, but they made sales happen. In retrospect, I'm not really knocking Yela's grind, but he could definitely have done more.
The Return of
Banned
Maybe this is a typo but Cudi and Ye, and having a GOAT on the same song...? Are you talking about Big Sean or are you saying Kanye being the GOAT makes it better? lol
Edit: Wtf? Childish Gambino did more than Yela wolf? I honestly didn't expect that at all.
Dreams-Visions
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DOPE.
here's hoping we get another live "I Wonder" performance like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7LnpJrFqM4
feels good every time I watch it.
Man, 10 years ago that number would have been 520,000 and Yela's would have been 410,000.
MorisUkunRasik
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Goofiest of all time.
LightOfTruth
Member
What do you guys think are Lupe's best mixtapes?
Saw these earlier. NIP will be remembered as a classic. Someone needs to gif the model at 0:56 with DAT SHIT CRAY underneath. They need to put a video out for this song NOW. What's taking so long? Thought they already shot it too.
Other stuff I've been meaning to post:
Tinie Tempah ft. J. Cole & Wretch 32 - Like It Or Love It. This shit goes, J. Cole's verse is insane.
Dre and Snoop perform The Next Episode, and together for the first time in years in Singapore. Failcensoring is a fail.
Emilio Rojas kills Lord Knows.
Common spits Nas' verse from Life's A Bitch. A bit random, but it's one of my favourite Nas verses, so I thought it was pretty cool.
And wait, Mac Miller isn't on a major? I don't like him or Gambino but I give respect where respect is due, they earned it.
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