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Satyamdas

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ShinobiFist said:
Again, if you came into the scene as a straight underground MC, build a following, and switch up your style on some puppy water shit. Of course you're going to lose fans, that's fucking obvious. If you want to "Keep it real" stay independent, spam your work and travel like a mad man. Is that simple. If you can't do that, you won't make it as an artist in general, period. because who knows, you might be the next trend *Cough, Tyler*
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I agree. But the point the other dude was making was "You better Drake it up if you want to do numbers/You have to be able to sing to get on now". That might work for someone who is already a shitty rapper/singer, but it isn't an option for everyone.
 
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Macca

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Satyamdas said:
Drake hasn't changed shit. He made some shit the bitches liked, signed to the label who basically owns the airwaves, and blew up. Period. And good for him, I don't knock anyone's hustle. He doesn't force anyone to step their game up because his "rapping" is shit tier. It's caca. If anything dudes would have to dumb their shit down to get on his level.

You said dudes need to sing to get on now. And now you say that they have to do something different to do Drake numbers. I'm sorry dude but that is just nonsense. First of all not everyone is going to do big numbers these days, and the quickest way to lose the fans you do have is to copy some shitty fad that isn't your lane. K.R.I.T and Action Bronson are already at an A-game level. If either of them tried to sing or do some Drake shit to get numbers they would get laughed off the planet. You seen Radioactive's numbers? Following trends and trying to do some formulaic shit because it works for that other guy isn't a guarantee of success by any means.
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Yep. Missed my point. I didn't say people had to step their game up because he is a better rapper. He's not. It's not Drake's rapping ability that is selling his records. His soft ass style is what's in at the moment. So if the more "hardcore" rappers want to take over the airways and such again they're going to have to do something better. Not saying that's to out rap Drake. They already to. Something else.

How often do we hear dudes rapping about getting rich, topping the charts, being world famous? All the time. The new generation of people that can credibly rap about that aren't going to be KRIT and Bronson that's for sure. Which is true, those guys don't rap about that.

Funny you mention Yela though. He's a dude that really seems like he wants to be a worldwide radio star, a real name in the game. It wasn't going to happen with music like Trunk Music. So he switched it up. How much of that is down to Shady? Who knows.

There are definitely differently lanes for dudes to be in. But the mainstream lane HAS been changed.
 
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ShinobiFist

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Satyamdas said:
I agree. But the point the other dude was making was "You better Drake it up if you want to do numbers/You have to be able to sing to get on now". That might work for someone who is already a shitty rapper/singer, but it isn't an option for everyone.
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LOL, you saw what happen when a few rappers try to rejuvenate their careers by going to auto-tune(Memphis Bleek, Yo)Instead of saying"Drake it up" People are better of saying, be multi-talented now. For example, how many MC's are also producers as well? Quite a few in this era.
 
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ShinobiFist

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Macca007 said:
Yep. Missed my point. I didn't say people had to step their game up because he is a better rapper. He's not. It's not Drake's rapping ability that is selling his records. His soft ass style is what's in at the moment. So if the more "hardcore" rappers want to take over the airways and such again they're going to have to do something better. Not saying that's to out rap Drake. They already to. Something else.

How often do we hear dudes rapping about getting rich, topping the charts, being world famous? All the time. The new generation of people that can credibly rap about that aren't going to be KRIT and Bronson that's for sure. Which is true, those guys don't rap about that.

Funny you mention Yela though. He's a dude that really seems like he wants to be a worldwide radio star, a real name in the game. It wasn't going to happen with music like Trunk Music. So he switched it up. How much of that is down to Shady? Who knows.

There are definitely differently lanes for dudes to be in. But the mainstream lane HAS been changed.
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Pretty much my dude. That's what I said a page ago, but you put it in one sentence, lol.
 
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Satyamdas

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Macca007 said:
Yep. Missed my point. I didn't say people had to step their game up because he is a better rapper. He's not. It's not Drake's rapping ability that is selling his records. His soft ass style is what's in at the moment. So if the more "hardcore" rappers want to take over the airways and such again they're going to have to do something better. Not saying that's to out rap Drake. They already to. Something else.

How often do we hear dudes rapping about getting rich, topping the charts, being world famous? All the time. The new generation of people that can credibly rap about that aren't going to be KRIT and Bronson that's for sure. Which is true, those guys don't rap about that.

Funny you mention Yela though. He's a dude that really seems like he wants to be a worldwide radio star, a real name in the game. It wasn't going to happen with music like Trunk Music. So he switched it up. How much of that is down to Shady? Who knows.

There are definitely differently lanes for dudes to be in. But the mainstream lane HAS been changed.
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No, it hasn't. Party music aimed at females has been what the mainstream has been about forever. FOREVER. What do you think Puffy and Ma$e were doing in the 90's? The same shit Drake is doing now minus the shitty singing. Drake is just the latest sensation. He will be gone and more cookie cutter bullshit will replace him. Nothing will have changed.
 
Tokubetsu

Tokubetsu

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ShinobiFist said:
LOL, you saw what happen when a few rappers try to rejuvenate their careers by going to auto-tune(Memphis Bleek, Yo)Instead of saying"Drake it up" People are better of saying, be multi-talented now. For example, how many MC's are also producers as well? Quite a few in this era.
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To be fair, its harder than ever to be a straight up producer now. You need someone steady to co-sign/ride your shit or rap yourself to "get on." Lex Luger is popular because BrickSquad put him out there. Clas is hot because of Lil B, Exile because of Blu, etc. You can't be freelancing like a lot of dudes were doing in the late 90s/early 00s anymore or you'll be starving before too long...
 
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ShinobiFist

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Macca

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Satyamdas said:
No, it hasn't. Party music aimed at females has been what the mainstream has been about forever. FOREVER. What do you think Puffy and Ma$e were doing in the 90's? The same shit Drake is doing now minus the shitty singing. Drake is just the latest sensation. He will be gone and more cookie cutter bullshit will replace him. Nothing will have changed.
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So who was the dude doing it before Drake?

The thing in the past was yea, you had Puffy, you had that 1 Mase album. But that shit also coexisted with your Jay-Z, your Dre, shit like that.

Now we have what, Ye, Jay, Wanye and Em. Who are all pretty well established by now. Who are the new guys coming through to the mainstream?
 
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Beezy

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Listening to Return of 4Eva again. KRIT produces all his own shit? If so, then he's a better rapper/producer than J. Cole.
 
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siddx

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Oh shit, WCW10 and Recon dropped his tape? Listening to both, so much goodness.
 
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Tokubetsu

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Not totally rap related but Danny Brown tweeted that he made cokemachineglow's top 10 and their write up for the album was actually pretty damn good:
http://www.cokemachineglow.com/feature/6630/top50albums-2011?pg=5

Sing it with me: “Take it off baby, bend over, lemme see it / If you lookin’ for a real pussy eater, I’ma be it!” The depravity of XXX hits a fever pitch with a gleeful, three-minute description of what, precisely and lasciviously, Danny Brown will do to you when you show him your pussy. “I Will”—gross, happy, fluids everywhere—might be the only time XXX‘s enthusiasm isn’t underscored with anger and sadness. Brown finds all other means of meliorating his self-loathing—PBRs, handfuls of adderall, blunt after blunt after blunt—insufficient. He needs you (“bitch”) to sit on his face.

XXX is, in a lot of ways, about needs. The need to rap, the need to succeed at rapping, the need to get fucked up to forget about failure, the way getting fucked up confuses one’s needs to the point that getting fucked up becomes a need independent of and more urgent than any other. So yeah: muff diving as therapy. It’s a backwards concept, but Danny Brown is a backwards rapper, an upside down rapper, a rapper inside-out with arteries belching smoke. He knows all of this—he’s “a smart nigga that do dumb shit”—but he illustrates in his rhymes how vast a canyon exists between consciousness of one’s flaws and the act of self-renovation. So, he bemoans his self-made plight (“DNA,” “30”) even as he excavates himself a deeper trench of despair (“Bruiser Brigade,” “Die Like a Rockstar”). He drinks until he throws up; bile and half-digested hot dogs coat adjacent women, rappers, and his skinny jeans.

If what he describes in his bars is sometimes ugly and hateful, the bars themselves are fluorescent. The bleakness of XXX, for the majority of its runtime, is a springboard for some of the most hilarious, language-drunk verses of the year. Brown fronts like he’s getting Kanye money before shattering the facade “Y’know that I be frontin’ / Got that income tax swag, that income tax swag / That bad dame in my lap just copped her a bag,” then cackles at the genteel activities of the affluent: “You gay niggas up in the pubs; they watchin’ them soccer games / We drunk as fuck, nigga; we bumpin’ Waka Flame (BA-BA-BA-BOW)!” Innumerable funny, sharp insights bloom from Danny Brown’s arid core of confused antipathy like flowers from a cactus. Real talk: XXX is such a fun record—it’s just that, like most real-life fun, the rush comes with some rather thick strings attached. You can’t numb the self-hatred and despondency that bleeds from the record’s last third with a glass of Kool-Aid and a couple episodes of How I Met Your Mother. You never leave the house; you don’t sleep for three days. You pop pills, write, drink, and smoke haze. You tell some woman for whom you have an unspeakable disdain—an extension of your own disdain, really—to strip down, and you fuck her until you’re both too exhausted to confront reality. Or you probably don’t do these things, but Danny Brown does. Then he documents them in gleaming tongues. What you won’t do, bitch he will.
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siddx

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I usually despise all that elementary ass bullshit rap, but Teach Me How To Dougie is just too fucking fun and catchy.
 
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siddx

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And if the production on that Asher Roth mixtape was a little more consistent it would have to make a last minute substitution in to my top 10. Insurance and Hard Times is so sick. But there are quite a few dull beats on there. Charlie Chaplin is sick as fuck too.
 
Tokubetsu

Tokubetsu

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siddx said:
And if the production on that Asher Roth mixtape was a little more consistent it would have to make a last minute substitution in to my top 10. Insurance and Hard Times is so sick. But there are quite a few dull beats on there. Charlie Chaplin is sick as fuck too.
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I like you siddx, you're cool.
 
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Recon

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siddx said:
And if the production on that Asher Roth mixtape was a little more consistent it would have to make a last minute substitution in to my top 10. Insurance and Hard Times is so sick. But there are quite a few dull beats on there. Charlie Chaplin is sick as fuck too.
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Damn, thats high praise. Im going to have to grab it now. Also, WCW10 is fucking great. Just what I needed.
 
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siddx

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It's not as fun as Seared Foie Gras so that took me a second to adjust. But as the title would suggest, it's much more jazzy. A few listens in, even the tracks I kind of weren't feeling before are warming up to me.
 
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The Return of

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I really dislike that useless song. Felt really out of place on that Pac Div album, but I guess it has kind of grown on me now that I listen to that Asher Roth tape.

Also, Blackace, listen to some of your mix in the car. That tooted and booted song cracks me up for some reason, love it.
 
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kamspy

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So the Jeezy doc was actually even better than I expected. It was pretty well put together. I was kinda expecting a more ghetto affair, but it's cut pretty well. Guest appearances from every rapper you can think of, and a good education of southern hip hop for people who are just casual fans. It's a different animal.

Samuel L Jackson is reserved as a narrator. I think he might have planned to take a more lively tone to it, until reading the script and discovering it's actually an amazing and touching story.

DJ Quik is listed as doing the Original Music on it, but I really didn't notice anything but Jeezy snippets.

Also, I had no clue Jeezy did so much charity work and fought to get his son from some chick.
 
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siddx

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Tguy said:
I really dislike that useless song. Felt really out of place on that Pac Div album, but I guess it has kind of grown on me now that I listen to that Asher Roth tape
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Yeah, useless and in the kitchen were the two tracks that really didn't work for me on first listen, they've grown on me as tracks, but they still don't feel quite right, production is just so different from the rest of the album's (asher's I mean) feel.
 
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DominoKid

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you guys will probably like this. duo out of San Fran called The Jealous Guys

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Link

Brainwash by London (prod by Clams Casino)
Insomniac Rhapsody
Genesis <- from their more recent release Audiobook EP
 
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PBY

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Glass Rebel said:
Well, obviously, Game even said "Fuck you Tyler". It makes Game look a bit more self-aware though. Someone gotta link him to Big Ghost.

Edit: For the two guys who are interested, Rae is gonna drop a mixtape in 4 days.
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Chef>wutang... Im def interested
 
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PhoenixDark

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Meh, I wonder what the production will look like. Rae has no excuse for such generic, boring production imo. When you see guys like Action Bronson and Roc Marciano getting dope beats from producers you haven't heard of, it makes Rae look like a fool
 
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Lambtron

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I'm listening to that French Montana, Juicy J, & Project Pat Cocaine Mafia tape right now. Good god this is good. Juicy J has been on a damn roll this year.
 
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PBY

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PhoenixDark said:
Meh, I wonder what the production will look like. Rae has no excuse for such generic, boring production imo. When you see guys like Action Bronson and Roc Marciano getting dope beats from producers you haven't heard of, it makes Rae look like a fool
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What albums are you referring to that had boring production?
 
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DominoKid

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rap highlights from the P4K guestlists. there's tons of funny shit in there. musicians are some quirky cats.

Das Racist top 10 albums of the year
01. The Weeknd: House of Balloons
02. Danny Brown: XXX
03. Mash Hall: Don't Talk to the Cops!
04. Mr. Muthafuckin' eXquire: Lost in Translation
05. Main Attrakionz: 808s and Dark Grapes II
06. Big Baby Gandhi: Big Fucking Baby
07. Action Bronson and Statik Selektah: Well-Done
08. Meek Mill: Dreamchasers
09. Spaceghostpurrp: Blvcklvnd Rvdix 66.6 (1991)
10. A$AP Rocky: LiveLoveA$AP

Other Shit: French Montana: "Shot Caller", Unknown Mortal Orchestra: Unknown Mortal Orchestra, Small Black: New Chain, Wu Lyf: Go Tell Fire to the Mountain, Pictureplane: Thee Physical, Rustie: Glass Swords, M83: Hurry Up We're Dreaming.

A-Trak's Top Guest Rap Verses
01. A$AP Ferg on A$AP Rocky's "Kissing Pink"
02. Drake on DJ Khaled's "I'm On One"
03. Busta Rhymes on Chris Brown's "Look At Me Now"
04. Lil Wayne on Drake's "The Motto"
05. Danny Brown on Mr. Muthafuckin' eXquire "Huzzah" (Remix)
06. Future on YC's "Racks"
07. Rick Ross on Meek Mill's "I'm a Boss" (Remix)
08. Nicki Minaj on Big Sean's "A$$" (Remix)
09. Kanye West on Big Sean's "Marvin Gaye & Chardonnay"
10. Waka Flocka on French Montana's "Chopper Chopper Down"

Toro Y Moi's Chaz Bundick Top Albums
01. Toro Y Moi: Underneath the Pine
02. AraabMuzik: Electronic Dream
03. Jay-Z and Kanye West: Watch the Throne
04. Tyler, the Creator: Goblin
05. Azari & III: Azari & III
06. Washed Out: Within and Without
07. Panda Bear: Tomboy
08. James Ferraro: Night Dolls With Hairspray
09. Chris Brown: F.A.M.E.
10. Tiger & Woods: Through The Green

Shabazz Palaces' Ishmael Butler Top Things
01. Belaynesh
02. Weekend: All American
03. Kola Boof
04. All of Toyin Odutolas work
05. Boom Clap Bachelors: "Lob Stop Sta" [ft. Coco O]
06. November 5th
07. Black bean burger from Zippy's
08. The view from Saul's rooftop
09. The Mavs
10. The alien I saw working in a kebab shop in Berlin. He looked like a slightly melting Arab Gary Shandling. I knew something was funny by watching him move, it was something in the way it poured the tahini. Then a weird incandescent light was pouring out of his ears, sort of like honey. He peeped me noticing, saw the confused horror explode through my expression and moved in a time folding way, like a film jumping. It looked shocked like a young boy that was discovered stealing quarters from his moms purse to play Galaga at the corner store. I backed away into the door and almost broke through it but then it said something that sounded like "xeeulis" or something and I felt comfort like never before. We spoke for about an hour but everything it said I immediately forgot. Except this: that Kanye West was the greatest artist of any kind in the history of man.

Danny Brown Top Indie Rap Albums
1. Danny Brown: XXX
2. A$AP Rocky: LiveLoveA$AP
3. Main Attrakionz: Chandelier
4. Spaceghostpurrp: Blackland Radio 66.6
5. Mr. Muthafuckin' eXquire: Lost in Translation
6. Dopehead: Plaid Palm Trees
7. Mondre of Main Attrakionz: Dope Since 91
8. Chip$: Couch Potato
9. Shady Blaze: Rappers Ain't $#!% without a Producer
10. Main Attrakionz: 808s and Dark Grapes/Blackberry Kush

Roach Gigz Top Tracks

DB Tha General: "Devilz": DB is a friend of mine, one of my favorite rappers out right now, and one of the most popular young artists from the Bay Area. "Devilz" shows DB's ability to serve that young, uncut Oakland mob music, while still being able to mix it in with his own thoughts and feelings.
A$AP Rocky: "Peso": Harlem! This song is just dope.
Lil B: "Back Of Yo Neck": "Let me tell you this what the girls want...." BASEDGOD!
Drake: "The Motto": Drake borrowed our sound, but paid respect to a legend who deserves it. I respect that, because most rappers just steal the Bay's style and pass it off as their own. Haven't heard any other big time rappers shout out Ronald Dregan; RIP Mac Dre!
Kanye West and Jay-Z: "Niggas in Paris": People always ask me what Hyphy is or what Hyphy music is, and I hate getting asked that question. So here, if you wanna hear a song that makes people get "Hyphy" listen to this one, waa-la.
Goapele: "Play": Goapele is not playing with this one. She's a singer from Oakland and this song is killing the radio right now. I can barely listen to rap anymore, and this song is helping me deal with that.
Killa Keise: "Byrd Shit": Killa Keise is a San Francisco rapper I grew up listening to. He was murdered last week, and this song is off the new mixtape he just dropped. We never got to make the song we talked about, but Rest In Peace Killa Keise.
50 Cent: "Street King Energy Track #8": 50 killed this. It makes me feel like I'm slapping Get Rich Or Die Trying all over again. The beat, the flow; everything was on point.
Sade: "Love Is Found": I remember being a kid hearing Sade, and she's still got it. I don't know how I found this song, but when I heard it I was instantly feeling it.
Mr. Ghetto:"Wal-Mart Song": I was in Wal-Mart for like two weeks straight after this.
 
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ShinobiFist

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PhoenixDark said:
Meh, I wonder what the production will look like. Rae has no excuse for such generic, boring production imo. When you see guys like Action Bronson and Roc Marciano getting dope beats from producers you haven't heard of, it makes Rae look like a fool
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What record you talking about, homie?
 
Blackace

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
siddx said:
I usually despise all that elementary ass bullshit rap, but Teach Me How To Dougie is just too fucking fun and catchy.
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The beat is so hot.. you couldn't rap seriously to it if you tried.. even Nas or KRS-1 would be saying something silly to it
 
Blackace

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Tguy said:
Also, Blackace, listen to some of your mix in the car. That tooted and booted song cracks me up for some reason, love it.
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Been a ton of remixes but YG, Snoop and Too Short is the best one.. YG seems soooo out of sorts compared to the OG pimps..
 
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Throavium

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Def Jam/IDJ's Young Jeezy album, Thug Motivation 103: Hustlerz Ambition, hits fourth, looks set for an impressive first week sales number of between 200-225k, based on one-day reports from those retailers who took time out from making fun of Newt Gingrich's double chin to respond. The South Carolina-born rapper's previous album, The Recession, debuted with nearly 260k upon its release in Sept. 2008.

Windy City hip-hop icon Common's Think Common/Warner Bros. bow, The Dreamer/The Believer, looks headed for first-week sales of between 55-65k. His last album, 2008's Universal Mind Control, on G.O.O.D./Geffen, debuted with 82k.
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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news08811
 
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Kaizer

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Blackace said:
The beat is so hot.. you couldn't rap seriously to it if you tried.. even Nas or KRS-1 would be saying something silly to it
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I can't help but break out in stupid dance every time the beat drops, it's got a nice bounce to it. It's not saying much, but B.o.B. did have the best verse on the remix.

^^Damn, looks like a tough week for Com Sense, haven't had a chance to listen to The Dreamer/The Believer yet.
 
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