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GAF-HOP: New Official 2010+ Thread of "hiphop ain't dead"
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You don't have to be poor to be feel like an outcast or to feel jaded with life psychologically speaking. They've also never claimed to have gangbanged so that's just irrelevant. Tyler and Earl are too focused on being funny to be considered pure shock rappers IMO...Like have you ever heard Bitches Brewin?
I dont really have an issue with the subject matter, although I tend to prefer rappers to make an attempt at being a little more varied. I feel like Tyler has backed himself into a corner subject matter wise in that if he ever wants to try for a more serious song or something with a softer subject matter, its going to be hard to take him serous. Although he is talented enough he could pull it off.
Spiderjericho
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Nas, Joe Budden, Canabis (sp), Eminem, 50 post Massacre, Raekwon before OBFCL2 and a few others qualify for deaf ears when it comes to beats.
I'd say Ghostface, Rick Ross, Game, Master Ace and a few others know how to pick diamonds in the rough (ie cheap, no name producers).
I'd say Ghostface, Rick Ross, Game, Master Ace and a few others know how to pick diamonds in the rough (ie cheap, no name producers).
Rick Ross didn't pick good beats. He paid for good beats. He used all of the money DefJam gave him for the album, on the album. Justice League, Kanye West, Lex Luger, Swizz, etc. It banged. Now he's indie and about to make real paper.
The rappers yall are mentioning, as far as common sense goes (the thing, not the rapper), are dumbasses. You know Nas buys some shit with those advances. Canibus buys those crazy speaker covered rollcage things. Those can't be cheap. Nas buys wives. I know from personal experience that ain't cheap. Joe Budden buys oxy/boy and wives. That's why he has to buy his beats on MySpace and record in his apartment on Audacity.
The rappers yall are mentioning, as far as common sense goes (the thing, not the rapper), are dumbasses. You know Nas buys some shit with those advances. Canibus buys those crazy speaker covered rollcage things. Those can't be cheap. Nas buys wives. I know from personal experience that ain't cheap. Joe Budden buys oxy/boy and wives. That's why he has to buy his beats on MySpace and record in his apartment on Audacity.
Joe Budden was picking "bad" beats, even when he was totally clean and was only dating Tahiry (and she had a job). Nas had a bad ear for beats before he ever met Kelis. Canibus gets money from no one to buy beats.kamspy said:
BTW, probably just my own "bad ear" for beats, but I thought the production on Distant Relatives and Nas' untitled album were pretty good. Like I said earlier, I also like a lot of Budden's beat selection.
Well Nas had that deal with Trackmasters for It Was Written and I Am. Look at God's Son and Street's disciple. Those albums did not cost shit to make. LES is his boy and isn't gonna bang him price. Salam Remi worked at pizza hut. Hip Hop is Dead had more big name producers, I'll give it that. Untitled, yeah. DJ Toomp. More Salam Remi. You know the budgets were waaaay bigger then what those cost. Outside of Hip Hop is Dead.
Canibus was signed. At one point. IIRC, Wyclef was his manager, and that was during 'Clef's cocaine and machete days. lol.
Canibus was signed. At one point. IIRC, Wyclef was his manager, and that was during 'Clef's cocaine and machete days. lol.
cuevas. PhD.
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EschatonDX said:
What a dick.
Lionheart1337
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All this beat-picking talk makes me wish artists just made their own beats, at least for the majority of their albums
soul creator
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kamspy said:
I lol'd
you just described me exactly haha
PhoenixDark
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Rick Ross is not indie. And yes, he picked good beats and payed for them. Lots of people buy expensive beats, but they don't have albums that sound like Teflon Don or Deeper Than Rap. Dude has taste.
Nas could get beats from most producers for basically free if he wanted; that's how bad people want to work with him. Instead he'd rather stick with his dudes. Dude is such a god damn clown. I'm glad Distant Relatives has been such a massive hit for him, and hope he realizes he could be so much greater if he just sat down with Premier and some other good producers.
Joe Budden is a joke. I'm a hater, and my soul burns seeing him signing to Shady/getting paid. Dude makes good music but is such an asshole I can't tolerate it. He'll snort his fame away eventually.
Nas could get beats from most producers for basically free if he wanted; that's how bad people want to work with him. Instead he'd rather stick with his dudes. Dude is such a god damn clown. I'm glad Distant Relatives has been such a massive hit for him, and hope he realizes he could be so much greater if he just sat down with Premier and some other good producers.
Joe Budden is a joke. I'm a hater, and my soul burns seeing him signing to Shady/getting paid. Dude makes good music but is such an asshole I can't tolerate it. He'll snort his fame away eventually.
I thought Ricky was off Def Jam as an artist after Teflon? I know he's got a distribution deal for MMG, but I coulda swore I heard that he wasn't signed to DefJam as an artist after TD.
If you're only working with a distribution deal you might as well be indie. Indie doesn't have to mean that you have to sell your records on your own website.
As for Joe Budden suicide attempts, that's just another example of his incompetence to get shit done. I fuck with some Joey tracks. I bought his first album and tried to get a lot of people hip to it. Then he got on that mad rapper shit, but in his case it was funny because hepissed snorted it away himself. He wasn't fucked by any outside influence. Def Jam didn't want to leave him on the shelf. He couldn't provide them anything to sell.
If you're only working with a distribution deal you might as well be indie. Indie doesn't have to mean that you have to sell your records on your own website.
As for Joe Budden suicide attempts, that's just another example of his incompetence to get shit done. I fuck with some Joey tracks. I bought his first album and tried to get a lot of people hip to it. Then he got on that mad rapper shit, but in his case it was funny because he
PhoenixDark
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Ah I thought Ross signed to Warner Bros., but it's just a distribution deal for his Maybach label. hmmm
T-Pain - prEVOLVEr mixtape (fucking finally)
hope its got some dope songs on it like Thr33 Ringz
edit: most people dont enjoy T-Pain's rapping but i do. he does some funny stuff w/ his delivery. pretty good mixtape. the track w/ Field Mob is raw.
surprised he didnt put the YM on the back cover since he's on Young Money now.
hope its got some dope songs on it like Thr33 Ringz
edit: most people dont enjoy T-Pain's rapping but i do. he does some funny stuff w/ his delivery. pretty good mixtape. the track w/ Field Mob is raw.
surprised he didnt put the YM on the back cover since he's on Young Money now.
Apparently Rick is going to accompany Pacquiao to the ring on saturday...
http://datruthboxing.com/blog.cfm/post/manny-pacquiao-to-enter-ring-with-rick-ross/
http://datruthboxing.com/blog.cfm/post/manny-pacquiao-to-enter-ring-with-rick-ross/
Dominican Power
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Anyone else watching Son of A Gun? Juice remake starring Soulja Boy is going to be a disaster.
Dominican Power
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ChldRebelSoldr said:
PhoenixDark
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I assumed that was just a mixtape or some shit. He's actually doing a Juice movie? lol, must be DVD bound
Dominican Power
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I think he's putting out a mixtape and he's doing the movie. Lmao @ Mike Tomlin, he does look like Omar Epps
Check this track out guys, Telemachus (Chemo) collab with Roc Marciano. So good.
Telemachus ft. Roc Marciano - Scarecrows FULL VERSION
Telemachus ft. Roc Marciano - Scarecrows FULL VERSION
IrishNinja
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PhoenixDark said:
i dont follow your example here.
primo + nas = shit you, i, and most of this thread (dudes with taste, anyway) would eat up, but as much as i adore premier's sound, how would that bank in a scene of house beats? id be happy to see a radio hit, but then again, nas pays baby momma vampire with tours anyway i guess.
joey's good, but he talks too much, and belongs running in the lane he's in. that said, a few vids posted here show he was mainstream for a minute long enough to kinda know how it works, telling me he's ok with where he's at. could be wrong.
Blackace said:
you say stuff like this that i back 100%, but then you go saying swizz > blaze and lose me...
Tokubetsu said:
haha...my thoughts, these are them.
the entire flip situation was shady as fuck..especially that notorious video that showed ti beating up flip..especially considering ti looked like he got hit by a bus a few days after that..exarkun said:
kinda funny that at that time flip was the way more sucessful and popular guy. now he's even more irrelevant than canibus and ja rule. funyy coincidence that you mention him cause i wanzed to post that i forgot to put undaground legend in my top 10. dude made me a screw fan and for that im forever thankful to him. also introduced me to ro and banner...anyway where we?
roosters93
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I downloaded every mixtape from HiRes' roundup. Can't complain about having nothing to listen to now! Thanks hires
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
PhoenixDark said:
Can someone explain to em what Diddy is doing for Ross? Is that his management now or some shit?
Finally bought Apollo Kids and Chico Dusty, they were only 5 brand new on amazon..
Not the biggest GFK fan (like every other member in the Clan his album are so goddamn inconsistent, for one of the supposedly best groups in rap they sure put out a lot of awful solo records) but the production sounded (when I previewed it) so brilliantly soulful..
Also bought an album from some Ryan Leslie..never ever heard of dude but It kinda reminded me of Frank Ocean and I listened to his album religiously (while yelling "I'm about to drive to the ocean" out of the car) my top 2 this year is already decided.
I really doubt anything can top this or Krits record.
Sheeeeeeeit..completely forgot I wanted to do that too. Thanks for reminding me.
Not the biggest GFK fan (like every other member in the Clan his album are so goddamn inconsistent, for one of the supposedly best groups in rap they sure put out a lot of awful solo records) but the production sounded (when I previewed it) so brilliantly soulful..
Also bought an album from some Ryan Leslie..never ever heard of dude but It kinda reminded me of Frank Ocean and I listened to his album religiously (while yelling "I'm about to drive to the ocean" out of the car) my top 2 this year is already decided.
I really doubt anything can top this or Krits record.
Sheeeeeeeit..completely forgot I wanted to do that too. Thanks for reminding me.
Yeah, so I'm just gonna say a couple quick things about the Aesop/Rob Sonic/DJ Big Whiz 'Are You Gonna Eat That?' album to the few that might be interested:
If you can get over the fact that it's a rap group comprised of 3 fat, white guys that resemble WoW addicts more than your idealized, stereotypical rappers; Mallon is some undeniably ill shit.
Production is synth/bass heavy and quite varied. Aesop and Rob kill it, lyrics wise, with varied deliveries and subject matter. Whiz is a scratch God. Still trying to break down the theme of the album - a lot of the song titles remain beneath the umbrella of kitchen/food/dining icons and symbols:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary
That's why.
Only problem I have with 'Hail Mary Mallon" as a group, is that Rob Sonic has become an Aesop stan over the years, it seems (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he never seemed this obtuse in the past). Their styles have become so similar, they don't compliment each other at all. Even though I like Sonic, I often want him to shutup so I can hear Aesop rap.
Basically, I just want an Aesop album because I'm an Aesop stan. But this is definitely the next best thing. Aesop's ability to allow his multisyllabic enjambment to ride a beat gets better and better. This is just 3 dudes trying to make a fun album.
Despite the excellent production, if you hate Aesop/Rob Sonic/ fat, bearded guys that rap, this album won't win you over.
Couple of my favorite tracks:
'Garfield'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPlv0jAhBkQ
'Meter Feeder'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7BHpzdZLM&feature=related
'Plagues and Bacon'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uwp8m-6jmo
*Cot damn this is way longer than I wanted*
If you can get over the fact that it's a rap group comprised of 3 fat, white guys that resemble WoW addicts more than your idealized, stereotypical rappers; Mallon is some undeniably ill shit.
Production is synth/bass heavy and quite varied. Aesop and Rob kill it, lyrics wise, with varied deliveries and subject matter. Whiz is a scratch God. Still trying to break down the theme of the album - a lot of the song titles remain beneath the umbrella of kitchen/food/dining icons and symbols:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary
That's why.
Only problem I have with 'Hail Mary Mallon" as a group, is that Rob Sonic has become an Aesop stan over the years, it seems (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he never seemed this obtuse in the past). Their styles have become so similar, they don't compliment each other at all. Even though I like Sonic, I often want him to shutup so I can hear Aesop rap.
Basically, I just want an Aesop album because I'm an Aesop stan. But this is definitely the next best thing. Aesop's ability to allow his multisyllabic enjambment to ride a beat gets better and better. This is just 3 dudes trying to make a fun album.
Despite the excellent production, if you hate Aesop/Rob Sonic/ fat, bearded guys that rap, this album won't win you over.
Couple of my favorite tracks:
'Garfield'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPlv0jAhBkQ
'Meter Feeder'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7BHpzdZLM&feature=related
'Plagues and Bacon'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uwp8m-6jmo
*Cot damn this is way longer than I wanted*
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Okay Kimosabae, since you took so much time and effort in that post, I'll try them out.
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