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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol

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RP912

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Time the fuck out!

Dudes going in on the weirdest comparison of two albums that serve different purposes...............instead of fucking with that new First Ear radio though :3

https://soundcloud.com/first-ear/first-ear-radio-053
 
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Jo Shishido's Cheeks

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With the whole TPaB - Swish thing.

Kanye had been talking about Swish for a while, he released an official single (with video), album artwork and did live performances of the second official single from the album.
Not to mention all the theatre/installation business which were large scale adverts for the album.
Then he had that radio interview (Breakfast Club...?) where he said it was an album of cook-out music that people were gonna have this summer.
TPaB dropped.
Kanye now saying his album might be years away.

With a 180 that severe, I don't think it's unfounded to say TPaB isn't related.
Kanye is even giving Swish records away now which suggests he's re-working an entire album he was extremely confident in mere weeks before TPaB dropped. Hmmm.
 
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enzo_gt said:
I don't disagree here that TPAB could lead to more of that, but Kanye always had a grander justification that people dissected (as he started going on about schools and racial barriers in general industry).
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What you're saying extends beyond Yeezus. He doesn't really discuss much of that other than some of Black Skinhead and New Slaves. If you wanna talk about the albums themselves, don't try to backpedal and say Kanye dissected these issues in interviews after the album's release.
 
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enzo_gt said:
The irony in this post talking about mental gymnastics lol. This is why I'm always going on about bias. Stop injecting your own bias and read what it is for what it is instead of putting words in people's mouths.

People hear TPAB and grab the guns from their nightstands without actually reading wtf is being critiqued. A page full of people thinking I'm saying Yeezus was more impactful than TPAB when that was not only not said anywhere, but also not implied anywhere. I don't know why I bother when people can eschew implications however they please.
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You didn't critique anything though.

You didn't outline any songs or reference any lyrics.

You didn't draw any comparisons between TPAB and Yeezus with any actual content, and framed TPAB as a reiteration of Kanye's work (as opposed to something that Kendrick developed independently). If you're wondering why everyone quoted that segment, that's why.

You leveled complaints at the people who like TPAB and portrayed them as small minded.

The rest is all just opinion about TPaB and its success accomplishing x or y,
 
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enzo_gt

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I'd agree with you on this but he said his album was 80% complete back in February and he had debuted both All Day and Wolves in a span of 2-3 weeks iirc

Maybe TPAB didn't make him completely shift focus, but something made him delay the album because it seemed like it was definitely going to come out in the first half of 2015.
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I said this before in this thread, but I feel like Ye always wants shit to hit before summer and then he gets sidetracked or something changes. I think right before TPAB hit Ye was talking about them still trying to find the sound, and that's kind of been consistent across the process for SWISH.

I think part of what happened is he decided to dump the Paul McCartney tracks. I mean, Piss On Your Grave was pretty hyped up and.. it's absolutely awful. Ye probably was just excited to be in the studio with him and then slowly crawled his way back into his own camp. Ye knows when people don't fuck with his shit, I'm certain he knows Only One wasn't it. Fam is still mad about 808s to this day.

It wouldn't be a stretch to say All Day won't make the cut either; Ye didn't promote it for shit after it came out, and right after that you had interviews with Travis and stuff saying that All Day wasn't what the rest of the album sounds like, and Wolves never had it's CDQ put out. It all seemed like moves Ye felt he had to do to push other shit, just like how we got Fade. Is Fade supposed to be influenced by TPAB? For all we know it's all cutting room floor material.
 
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Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:
With the whole TPaB - Swish thing.

Kanye had been talking about Swish for a while, he released an official single (with video), album artwork and did live performances of the second official single from the album.
Not to mention all the theatre/installation business which were large scale adverts for the album.
Then he had that radio interview (Breakfast Club...?) where he said it was an album of cook-out music that people were gonna have this summer.
TPaB dropped.
Kanye now saying his album might be years away.

With a 180 that severe, I don't think it's unfounded to say TPaB isn't related.
Kanye is even giving Swish records away now which suggests he's re-working an entire album he was extremely confident in mere weeks before TPaB dropped. Hmmm.
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the only reason he did a 180 is because all day is a garbage track and kanye is so reactionary that if something doesn't hit like that he'll scrap it all
 
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No. All Day wasn't a flop because it wasn't marketed enough. It flopped because it's a trash song that sounds like the audio equivalent of a 40 year old man collecting amiibos.
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Fjordson

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Kyzer seemed like an alright guy. But yeah, gotta keep your head down in them console war threads.

Anyway, the Bryson Tiller album is pretty nice imo if you're into sing-song shit.
 
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Psychological Intellect

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enzo_gt said:
Yeah as far as generating discussion goes you would be a fool to think TPAB even touches Yeezus; even if we're talking the content/themes TPAB reiterates from Yeezus and Yeezus-era Ye specifically.

TPAB's popularity or at least the cannonball-in-the-shallow-end splash it had didn't amount to much that was tangibly impactful because the conversation it started was sideswiped by omgkendricksogood. This was also sort of inherent in my criticism of TPAB, it doesn't really have the gut punch necessary to make it's content and critiques impactful. It's a long somber story without a takeaway. Part of that is Kendrick intertwining his personal story with the greater message which does dilute things to a degree even if it's a small degree. None of the energy (read: not necessarily trap/party jams) makes it's way out of the bubble the album puts itself in. And it's proponents kind of sit in that bubble as well, pushing away songs like King Kunta even though that's easily the best attempt at that gut punch next to Wesley's Theory.

The whole album is kind of a news story without a headline. The meat and potatoes is there but it isn't doing much alone. I want to be cynical and say that whatever this nebulous conversation that rappers keep attempting about civil rights is impossible in our era, but I don't think so. The right punchline or the most effective storytelling would probably still cut through.
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Discotheque

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fetty wap album kind of just bleeds over one track after another but he's damn good at hooks, it's an album you could play start to finish at a party with ease for sure.
 
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RP912

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So that Fetty slamming huh?

Seems like this year is the dawn of the trap. Future Hendrix dropping gems left and right, Rodeo is out, and now Fetty getting love.

It feels like a HD version of the Crunk movement.
 
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