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[WanderingWind]

Use dict.cc to translate German directly, brehs.

Spoiler

It's "Fick dich, Snuggles. Fick dich.".

I'll have you know I used my own terrible German skills. I rely on no translation for my second grade abilities.

EDIT: Wait. Did you have to go back and pick the correct Coli smilie? That may be the most German thing I've seen today.

 

[Syphon Filter]

GKMC is better than RTD and that is a top 5 album for me
I consider Kendrick better than pac and big

GKMC > RTD > TPAB > LAD > Pac's discography

Nice troll. Everyone knows 2pac is the greatest of all time.

GKMC and TPAB are good but completely overrated.

 

[overcast]

At this point he can't be compared to Nelly. At this point it's safe to say no rapper has done what Drake has done; his dominance of the charts is unparalleled. Even his throwaways are hits, even his "street" singles are hits. He's comfortably going platinum in an era where album sales are depleted.

He's right on the wave of the mainstream as well as hip hop audiences brehs. Safe to say he's already a legend at this point, and tbh I really don't see how he won't be dominating 2-3 years from now as well. Who is gonna stop him?

I think he's an average rapper at best but we live in an era where people don't care whether people were COs, write their own rhymes, etc. It doesn't matter to people.

Yeah, I mean it's a given that he will be remembered as this generations top rapper. I like his music, but I personally stand by his huge lack of a great album. Drake is like the perfect evolution of an internet/social media rapper. Whether he has his lines written or not for him is totally irrelevant. The music sounds good and people have fun with it. The meme shit is annoying, but it's powerful. Here we have a completely and carefully crafted artist to appeal to them masses. How much of that was his work? How much of it was a team of writers? I don't know. It doesn't really matter.

The fact is he did make an album of throwaways but it had some fucking hits on it. He had some lower-mid tier rapper come at him and in the process maybe reveal a painful truth for Drake to have revealed. Yet, Meek was eviscerated by not even the song but legions of Twitter fingers. He then drops Hotline Bling in the middle of summer during this "beef". His name is still out there. Then he drops a collab with the hottest rapper of '15 in a lane where he wasn't 3 years ago. Now Hotline has erupted. Dude has dominated 2015. I bet he can drop Views in 2016 and a few one offs that hit the top 10.

Suddenly the Drake soft memes are long forgotten (they were pretty tired anyway) and he has those same weapons backing him. Just making music people can sing along to. Girls, dudes, people in multiple countries.

And ya'll know I'm far from a stan. I don't go through any of his albums in full, they aren't put together like that. But there are a good 20-25 songs released across the years that I can vibe to for sure. Sometimes at home and sometimes at the club. And hell yeah Hotline Bling and Jumpman are dope songs. If I can say that, then he's winning. Plus Views is gonna be his best album.

 

[FZZ]

Am I the only one who like the Super Mario World beat of when Cha Cha first came over the new one?

 

[Eos]

Nice troll. Everyone knows 2pac is the greatest of all time.

GKMC and TPAB are good but completely overrated.

You're one to talk lol
Tupac and eminem are the most overrated and glorified rappers of all time

 

[Storm Chamber]

You're one to talk lol
Tupac and eminem are the most overrated and glorified rappers of all time

No lies detected

 

[Syphon Filter]

You're one to talk lol
Tupac and eminem are the most overrated and glorified rappers of all time

Saw that coming lol.

I could see Em to an extent but for 2pac.. nah.

 

[IrishNinja]

https://twitter.com/tole_cover/status/656331583742455809

this was beautiful by the way

Drake on top of his game. Still evolving, even after 6 years.

Do you think he will be mentioned in GOAT lists in 10 years like Pac, Jay, Nas, etc., though?

nah - he ran summers and did some evolving but the subject matter's still limited...influence/etc for sure but not enough classics for me. now top discographies, that'll be a good one if he stays up to the level of quality he's largely had

Alchemist x Action Bronson Boiler Room Live Set filmed via GoPro.

man, coli thought dude was done after ghost sonned 'em...glad to see him out here

Too much of a fraud. Nelly and Ma$e sold a lot of records too.

true, he's proven stronger longevity in his crossover lane than either of em, and ghost aint had to break his jaw yet neither

seriously
Kdot's arguably got 2 classics (of his 3 great albums) but let's give dude some time & make sure there's not a lasers on deck or some shit before throwing crowns around like this

What the fuck just happened in here.

thread always gets gross when icons come up, especially pac

Was Biggie even that good?

We already realize how fraudulent Tupac was.

like look at this shit right here, it's the souljah flag flying high

Ready to Die > GKMC > TPaB > All Eyez on Me > Section. 80 > Don Killuminati > Me Against the World

damn, i know PD broke it down recently but Me Against still deserves better than that bottom spot, geez

Nice troll. Everyone knows 2pac is the greatest of all time.

GKMC and TPAB are good but completely overrated.

...there really is no middle ground for us true dustheads here, it's sad

 

[overcast]

Nice troll. Everyone knows 2pac is the greatest of all time.

GKMC and TPAB are good but completely overrated.

"Jay Rock is the best member of TDE"
-Syphon Filter.

 

[Bad_Boy]

Drake's nearly universal appeal is rare. He's got fans in almost every demographic aside from dustheads who don't really count anyways.

He can put out the worst video of the year and still have people love it.

 

[Eos]

"Graduation is the best Kanye album"
-Syphon Filter

 

[Nibel]

People fuck with Pac for his "realness", not for his music

Dude is the first thing that pops up in my mind when I think about 'gangster rapper'

Spoiler

Nibel Amaru Shakur up in thiisssssss

 

[Syphon Filter]

"Graduation is the best Kanye album"
-Syphon Filter

I never said that, CD is the best album. I said that Graduation is his 3rd best album.

 

[Nibel]

Brehs

Is "Sunshine" the GOAT Jay-Z Shiny Suit era song? Been blasting this all day, whew

 

[IrishNinja]

look i get that other spots revere him as a god but the Pac hate here is ridiculous. dude put out such a body of work in such a short time & he might not be on your top 10 but he's got a place, and it's for the man's music more than just his image. jesus.

damn...you know what's a bitch? cult shit on vinyl.

like, i get the cold vein being pricey - i didn't at all know about that shit in its era, best to hope for a record store re-release one day or some shit. but Mic Tyson, Death is Silent & several others are now a complete bitch to find for reasonable prices.

what do ya'll think would be good pickups before they run out & get stupid priced? im debating copping yen lo/maybe night's gambit and marci beaucoup, not sure what else...cancer4cure, russian roulette and below the heavens are thankfully not bad yet so onto the list they go,

also, wanted to follow up to my rare vinyl thing last night - i got word back from duck down about reprinting Sean Price's stuff, and it was good news!

Hey Nick

We're working with FatBeats to reissue the entire vinyl collection. We unfortunately don't have any concrete dates yet. Keep on the lookout!

Thanks!

Peace, Duck Down Staff

really awesome, since i don't want to pay like $100 for Mic Tyson/Superstar etc and i'm much rather pay something that'd go towards his estate as well.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Dustheads are the Sega fans of hip hop.

the power of this post, avert your eyes IrishNinja

 

[Eos]

I don't think anyone hates him, it's just that as an artist and his work, he is overrated imo.

 

[FZZ]

https://soundcloud.com/achal/vibe_wu

 

[PBY]

People fuck with Pac for his "realness", not for his music

Dude is the first thing that pops up in my mind when I think about 'gangster rapper'

Spoiler

Nibel Amaru Shakur up in thiisssssss

Yeah, I don't really like any of Tupac's albums. Great songs sure. But none of his projects ever fully hit w/ me.

 

[Syntsui]

Pac only classic album is a compilation of his best songs. Influence wise he is the best ever together with Biggie, every single relevant and irrelevant rapper who ever grabbed a mic have some good thoughts on both of them. Now when it comes to rap, Biggie was leagues above Pac and I challenge anyone to argue against that while comparing their entire discography.

Today,no one touches Kendrick when it comes to rapping while being relevant, you can talk about your favorite hipster irrelevant nobody rapper who raps that truth shit for all his 3 fans + his mother and some of the members here like "oh he so real, he never sold out, he the underrated best". GTFO with that bullshit, years from now we will be taking about rappers who left a mark on the game, be it a spark for some years, be it a huge influence for generations.

We will be talking about Schoolboy Q, Rick Ross, Drake, J Cole (yeah motherfucker, that guy you love the hate is one of the biggest names of your favorite genre and you can suck on that), Meek Mill, Kendrick etc. We will be remembering how good, bad, overrated, underrated etc they were and how much potential they had or wasted. But when all is said and done everyone will agree when it comes down to choose the name of the best rapper, talent wise, of the generation and it will be Kendrick.

 

[IrishNinja]

Dustheads are the Sega fans of hip hop.

the power of this post, avert your eyes IrishNinja

being on the right side of history is always nice, good looks fam

I don't think anyone hates him, it's just that as an artist and his work, he is overrated imo.

i get that, but literally every time dude's name is brought up some of ya 'll line up to repeat this view
like, there's syphon on his GOAT thing, and then camp chaddahz on the WOAT and i just basically wait for PD or someone to get into it so dude can actually be discussed, rather than reacted to

I will be talking about Schoolboy Q, Rick Ross, J Cole, Meek Mill,

adjusted

 

[overcast]

We will be talking about Schoolboy Q, Rick Ross, Drake, J Cole (yeah motherfucker, that guy you love the hate is one of the biggest names of your favorite genre and you can suck on that), Meek Mill, Kendrick etc.

Bolded, naw. Even if Q kills it on the next one.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Pac only classic album is a compilation of his best songs. Influence wise he is the best ever together with Biggie, every single relevant and irrelevant rapper who ever grabbed a mic have some good thoughts on both of them. Now when it comes to rap, Biggie was leagues above Pac and I challenge anyone to argue against that while comparing their entire discography.

Today,no one touches Kendrick when it comes to rapping while being relevant, you can talk about your favorite hipster irrelevant nobody rapper who raps that truth shit for all his 3 fans + his mother and some of the members here like "oh he so real, he never sold out, he the underrated best". GTFO with that bullshit, years from now we will be taking about rappers who left a mark on the game, be it a spark for some years, be it a huge influence for generations.

We will be talking about Schoolboy Q, Rick Ross, Drake, J Cole (yeah motherfucker, that guy you love the hate is one of the biggest names of your favorite genre and you can suck on that), Meek Mill, Kendrick etc. We will be remembering how good, bad, overrated, underrated etc they were and how much potential they had or wasted. But when all is said and done everyone will agree when it comes down to choose the name of the best rapper, talent wise, of the generation and it will be Kendrick.

So much wrong in here its not even funny. 2pac has better music than biggie due to having a variety of tracks. Also who says anyone has to conform to bullshit and accept mediocrity just because others like certain artists?

@irish - I think it is fair to include j cole for numbers alone.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Take Care was a good album, and if Drake has a "classic" it's that. It's the album his fans wanted, critics loved, and had influence on the genre. I'm not saying it's a classic to me, or even qualifies as a classic to me...but clearly it's "the" Drake album.

Views is going to be a big album, like all Drake albums. Can he make a great album that stands as a complete body of work, not just a collection of tracks for various demos (strippers/clubs, women, men who get pedicures, etc)? Time will tell.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Take Care was a good album

Remember this day and who said it, ya'll

 

[IrishNinja]

Pac vs big discography is really weird since one dude has like....5 studio, 2 with weedcarriers, tons of posthumous and biggie has...2. we on guest verses then?

@irish - I think it is fair to include j cole for numbers alone.

using esh's point here - Nelly, Ja & other dudes put big #'s on the boards, nobody talks about em

Take Care was a good album, and if Drake has a "classic" it's that. It's the album his fans wanted, critics loved, and had influence on the genre. I'm not saying it's a classic to me, or even qualifies as a classic to me...but clearly it's "the" Drake album.

Views is going to be a big album, like all Drake albums. Can he make a great album that stands as a complete body of work, not just a collection of tracks for various demos (strippers/clubs, women, men who get pedicures, etc)? Time will tell.

yeah, i dont think i'd call it a classic at this point either but Take Care is the only one i'd wanna own/revisit on wax. the singles so far have been fire but i don't think i'm expecting that from VFT6, dude seems pretty comfy just being a singles artist for the most part

 

[Syntsui]

We will be remembering how good, bad, overrated, underrated etc they were and how much potential they had or wasted.

Ignore the very next sentence yall. Like it or not, these are the names that move numbers/get reaction on social media etc today.

 

[IrishNinja]

what if we get cyberbrains and nothing anyone ever said on social media 1.0 mattered

 

[overcast]

Ignore the very next sentence yall. Like it or not, these are the names that move numbers/get reaction on social media etc today.

Okay, and that is the whole world. Only a few will be remembered anyway. Drake won't be forgotten or thought of as "oh he had potential". He's realizing his potential as a mega star.

J. Cole is realizing his for making middling music that appeals to women and flabby people.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

what if we get cyberbrains and nothing anyone ever said on social media 1.0 mattered

Tokuism

 

[IrishNinja]

goddamn, that Ka talk got me revisiting Night's Gambit

legit chills from The Jungle

 

[Syphon Filter]

Okay, and that is the whole world. Only a few will be remembered anyway. Drake won't be forgotten or thought of as "oh he had potential". He's realizing his potential as a mega star.

J. Cole is realizing his for making middling music that appeals to women and flabby people.

How you are going to say j cole makes music that appeals to women when drake is mainly that as well?

 

[Rastafarian42]

He already said he's a legend on If your reading this it's too late. Dude came in the game and dominated with his music nobody cares about the ghostwriting stuff since he dropped Back 2 Back. TBH I feel Nothing Was the Same is the closest thing he has to a classic. That album is the start of the run he's currently on now. He stepped up the flow massively and came to dominate the game like someone in his position should. Take Care while good feels a bit dated especially the flows he uses on some of the songs (Over My Dead Body comes to mind).

 

[Syntsui]

Okay, and that is the whole world. Only a few will be remembered anyway. Drake won't be forgotten or thought of as "oh he had potential". He's realizing his potential as a mega star.

J. Cole is realizing his for making middling music that appeals to women and flabby people.

J Cole has a loyal enormous fanbase, he won't be forgotten and whenever someone analyses the current generation of rapper he will always be there. Be for being good or bad, his name won't fade. The same for Meek, not for his music but because of his colossal fail at starting a beef in social media era. Maybe the other examples I gave are bad and without any drama attached to their names, they won't be remembered by music alone. Which is not the case of Drake and even Kendrick, who have a phenomenal output, loyal fans, inspire people's life and influence other rappers.

 

[IrishNinja]

i bet Ja, Ma$e and all types of dudes thought their names wouldn't fade neither

also had no idea Ka's a firefighter, that's dope

He already said he's a legend on If your reading this it's too late.

oh well if he said it about himself then it's a lock b

 

[Nibel]

That Ja/Ma$e/Nelly comparison is garbo; Ma$e became a fucking preacher, Ja took a career-ending L from someone who was above him in terms of hype and Nelly just made bad music and eventually dropped like a rock

 

[xHiryu]

J Cole has a loyal enormous fanbase, he won't be forgotten and whenever someone analyses the current generation of rapper he will always be there. Be for being good or bad, his name won't fade. The same for Meek, not for his music but because of his colossal fail at starting a beef in social media era. Maybe the other examples I gave are bad and without any drama attached to their names, they won't be remembered by music alone. Which is not the case of Drake and even Kendrick, who have a phenomenal output, loyal fans, inspire people's life and influence other rappers.

I feel as if the reason J. Cole is enormous is due to his relatable lyrics. While you got all these rappers trapping and rapping about dumb ass shit, conscious rappers like Kendrick are talking politics, black power or giving a concise narrative with their work, J. Cole seems to strictly speak of topics that everyone can relate to, in songs like Wet Dreamz, 03 Adolescence, and that's what hes mainly known for, since he blew up with 2014 Forest Hills Drive but he does have different songs like Work Out or Friday Night Lights off his old shit. While I dont fuck with J. Cole like most people, he's such a relatable figure and people love that.

Also Flashing Lights is the best Kanye song period and 2Pac is not for my ears, I like 2Pac as a person, icon and overall artistic figure but not as a rapper, but he undeniably has some good songs.

 

[overcast]

How you are going to say j cole makes music that appeals to women when drake is mainly that as well?

Drake has crossover appeal like crazy. I was a bit tongue in cheek there too.

J Cole has a loyal enormous fanbase, he won't be forgotten and whenever someone analyses the current generation of rapper he will always be there. Be for being good or bad, his name won't fade. The same for Meek, not for his music but because of his colossal fail at starting a beef in social media era. Maybe the other examples I gave are bad and without any drama attached to their names, they won't be remembered by music alone. Which is not the case of Drake and even Kendrick, who have a phenomenal output, loyal fans, inspire people's life and influence other rappers.

Never said J. Cole would. Meek is gonna be gone after 3 years.

oh well if he said it about himself then it's a lock b

Yeah that was kinda funny.

 

[Dereck]

oh well if he said it about himself then it's a lock b

lmao

 

[IrishNinja]

That Ja/Ma$e/Nelly comparison is garbo; Ma$e became a fucking preacher, Ja took a career-ending L from someone who was above him in terms of hype and Nelly just made bad music and eventually dropped like a rock

cole's boring egocentric shtick will run out & he'll either have a motivational book written for him or get caught with an underage groupie sometime around when yeezy says something about the jews

10 minutes later a flood of memes will be made about a flash-in-the-pan west coast dance crazy and nobody will remember either event happening

 

[Syntsui]

Meek is gonna be gone after 3 years.

I doubt it. No one will remember him for his music, but his self-destruct beef will forever be remembered. We still have Xzibit and Ja Rule memes in 2015, not everything is about the music.

 

[CountBlack]

Jay Rock - The Ways feat. Sir Video

edit: NSFW

 

[Syphon Filter]

I doubt it. No one will remember him for his music, but his self-destruct beef will forever be remembered. We still have Xzibit and Ja Rule memes in 2015, not everything is about the music.

It's all about music, also those artists you mentioned at least made good music at one point.

 

[JohnDoe]

Brehs. I really, really don't mean this ironically, but Young Thug is one of the best rappers ever when it comes to riding beats. He's basically the Abella Anderson of rap.

 

[Snuggles]

He's also good at riding in that pussy like a stroller.

 

[MuddyDonut]

Stolen from the Hotline Bling thread in OT. But Drake responded to the criticism of him stealing the track Cha Cha:





Fucking hell.

Drake doesn't even cosign anymore. He'll just outright snatch your shit lol. Ah I like both songs anyway.

 

[T Dollarz]

goddamn, that Ka talk got me revisiting Night's Gambit

legit chills from The Jungle

I was right there with you this morning breh. Already have Yen Lo on vinyl, saw that Night's Gambit is only $20 I'm like fuuuuck. Threw it on for the morning commute... That ish never gets stale. Wanna cop that so bad but funds are serious right now

 

[PhoenixDark]

Remember this day and who said it, ya'll

breh I've been saying that for years.

 

[Grover Cleveland]

Take Care's still Drake's best project.

And Meek will be good. He just needs to fall back from the bullshit, get back in the studio and start making those hits again.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Jay Rock - The Ways feat. Sir Video

edit: NSFW

meh video

Love the song though. Sounds like it would get radio play if a major label was pushing it.