Tickets are 23$-63$, not bad at all. Just bugs me that I only want to see the supporting acts, I've never gone to a concert for openers before, but those TDE albums are the best shit to happen in rap in a while, imo.
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Tickets are 23$-63$, not bad at all. Just bugs me that I only want to see the supporting acts, I've never gone to a concert for openers before, but those TDE albums are the best shit to happen in rap in a while, imo.
Don't rap over T.R.O.Y. unless you want me to compare you to C.L.Smooth...
Not only is TROY better, but Talib Kweli also made a better "Around My Way" a while ago. Sorry Lupe you losin breh. :lol
But my opinion on the song changes from pretty-positive to "eh?" when I realize that Lupe apparently did this without Pete Rock's blessing...
And I wonder how many kids that listen to this won't even know what this samples ._.
I can't hate. I actually sort-of like this.
But my opinion on the song changes from pretty-positive to "eh?" when I realize that Lupe apparently did this without Pete Rock's blessing...
And I wonder how many kids that listen to this won't even know what this samples ._.
well shit, id definitely bite on that price.
I liked the song, only because of the sample though haha.
No disrespect towards Pete Rock, but lol at him saying that the beat lacks originality. He sampled the sax for his song too. I just don't see why he's so riled up about this when the sample (while made famous by him) isn't exclusively his in the first place.
Yeah, I know the story behind T.R.O.Y and how the song came to be, but still...
No disrespect towards Pete Rock, but lol at him saying that the beat lacks originality. He sampled the sax for his song too. I just don't see why he's so riled up about this when the sample (while made famous by him) isn't exclusively his in the first place.
Yeah, I know the story behind T.R.O.Y and how the song came to be, but still...
RPS37
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Oldschoolgamer
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I fuck with the song, but that is the sad truth of the matter.
This beat is gdlk. I'm mad he made this song over it. :|
...There's a bit of singing on some QuEST like shit, but once you warm up to it's really catchy.
Research the history of the T.R.O.Y. and what inspired Pete Rock/C.L. Smooth to make it, the track is mediocre, and the producer didn't even try and flip it in any sort interesting fashion.
Pol_Pothead
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Lupe's flow is ok on this but he's still saying ham fisted shit like "emaciated models, with cocaine and blood pouring out their nostrils, they got to, just to stay awake on the catwalk of life". Also i'm not entirely convinced that repurposing a beat that was originally used to eulogise a dead loved one, is the classiest move. Pete Rock be spazzing out on twitter yo.
RPS37
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...There's a bit of singing on some QuEST like shit, but once you warm up to it's really catchy.
I like QuEST's singing too. I like shit.
MorisUkunRasik
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Lupe single has a nice beat but not really liking it.
You have heard the original right?
MorisUkunRasik
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Of course. And I get why it rubs some people the wrong way, the worst part of it all is that what Lupe has added to it is, to me, is pretty underwhelming.
Took a classic , re-purposed it slightly and it feels unnecessary.
edit: Listening to the original, the updated beat doesn't sound as great. Can't place my finger on it, maybe one you more musically inclined guys can, it just doesn't sound as cohesive.
Oldschoolgamer
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Wow. I think I heard T.R.O.Y. once. That song is leagues better than this bs Lupe dropped today.
I like it a lot. Lupe's flow is on point and it doesn't go against the beat but compliments it, imo. I could listen to the original song all day, now I get to do it with Lupe on it.
The beat is legendary and that is probably why they didn't have to really mess with it. I have no problem for him using it, I think it could expose more people to Pete Rock and the greatness of producers in general.:O
I like it a lot. Lupe's flow is on point and it doesn't go against the beat but compliments it, imo. I could listen to the original song all day, now I get to do it with Lupe on it.
This is how I feel. Love T.R.O.Y and I can listen to the beat all day, and it's interesting to see another producer's take on it. It doesn't top Pete Rock's version, but it's another version to listen to.
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dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Not sure why Lupe would do this. T.R.O.Y. is one of those songs you don't touch. It is truly that powerful. If Lupe thinks it is cool to do this and not even call Pete Rock, he is as clueless as his look suggests.
Damn...that Rick Ross is jammin'!
Yeah... Pretty sure, and this is a total guess, but Pete Rock probably has no rights over that song.
Holy shit Lupe didn't even reach out to Pete first. Fuck that is some bitch ass shit.
C.L. rocked it too hard for anyone else to jump on it anyway.
I always thought this too, especially since it is very very similar. Idk probably something to do with the executives or something.
Zoramon089
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Lol the Lupe hate is thick as usual...there are actually people acting like Lupe purposefully went around Pete Rock with the sample, like it's not the label that handles that
Still, didn't Lupe go through all the LASERS bs so that his lablel would have no control over this album? In that case Lupe could have heard the troy sample when the producer played it to him and said "No, this shouldn't be touched".
Instead he went along with it...........
Zoramon089
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No I meant labels (and the producers I guess) handle clearing of samples not the artist. I'm sure Lupe wanted to use the sample and I don't see what the problem is with it
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Fuck a sample. You saying Lupe couldn't have called Pete Rock to ask if he could use T.R.O.Y. for his record? It ain't about legalities, it is about respect. That is what we are talking about. Not sure how anyone who knows the history of T.R.O.Y. can fault Pete Rock in his reaction.
It's okay. Not as good as anything on Teflon Don though, which is looking like it may be his peak.
Also.. okay. Song gets better as it goes on. Flow is pretty dope. Kind of inexplicably underwhelming though.
The intro being straight T.R.O.Y. really discredits the rest of the song.
The Return of
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The label Lupe is under is the same label that Pete Rock &CL Smooth were under.
Zoramon089
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Do you guys even hear what you're saying? I mean, his twitter said he pissed because the sample is near and dear to him. I'm guessing what happened is he was called asking if the sample could be used and agreed and is pissed that they basically didn't do anything to it. Just straight used the original beat
How have you helped your original point about it being okay...I don't think the naysayers are at all concerned with the legality of the usage, but rather the lack of respect shown. If you feel compelled to do a T.R.O.Y. song you better come with your best, the subject matter should be as interesting and clever, and you better bring something to the table to make your song stand out in comparison. That goes for both the producer and the rapper.
cmon son.
Did you read the tweet that started the whole rant?
Doesn't sound like he he gave permission and is disappointed with the results. Sounds like he is disappointed with Lupe for touching it at all.
Not that I think its a big deal. I'm guessing him and pete work things out either by taking it off the album or making it more original.
Zoramon089
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How do singles work? Can they simply be made into bonus tracks or adjusted once released?
Not only can they be, but they usually are.
Grabbing this now, will check it out ASAP!
I like the beat, like his flow...just not really interested in hearing about him rap about the government, like I said before. I'm cautiously interested in hearing more, though.
Would you guys go to this to see Kendrick and Schoolboy? They just added a Toronto date, and I really have no desire to see anyone else, except for maybe Chiddy Bang who is also on the bill.
I'd pay $23 to see Kendrick and Q, absolutely. Hopefully they go on before Wiz and Mac Miller so I can just leave after the TDE guys are done.
This is pretty much how I feel about it, too. I do think it could lead more people to checking out Pete Rock, which is at least one good thing that will come out of this. Speaking of which, I checked out the Jazz-Hop thread last night and I think I found a new thread to start mining.
I like it a lot. Lupe's flow is on point and it doesn't go against the beat but compliments it, imo. I could listen to the original song all day, now I get to do it with Lupe on it.
*Golf clap*
Lupe's execution was on point and his flow was pretty damn good. If the beat was used without proper consent then that would be the only problem :/
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
watch out kids, government gonna get you.
nah its pretty good. also goddamn this thread moves fast
Yeah Pete Rock probably has no rights on that song or something.
Labels are the same right?
Nabs
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SMH Lupe.
spindashing
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lol whatever
what did cl smooth ever amount to anyway?
what did cl smooth ever amount to anyway?
soul creator
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Lupe's new single is not the S1 produced track, is it?
Spitting fire over them Nujabes tracks son!
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Spitting fire over them Nujabes tracks son!
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Lupe single is decent.
about what I expect from raiden member, really nice dark production.
Ace putting that work in! I'll let you know what I think later tonight or tomorrow.
Same! I missed out on Rolling Stoned, mostly because 4loko didn't interest me much, but I liked that New Jack song quite a bit, so I'll be getting this for sure.
gonna give this a shot, some of the songs sounded good and ski beats seems to be killing it like usual
WanderingWind
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Lupe track is on point. Can't hate on it.
And we all should know better than to blame the rapper for the producer for not properly clearing the samples.
And we all should know better than to blame the rapper for the producer for not properly clearing the samples.
To be clear, the sample is "cleared" most likely.
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