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GAF-Hop |OT7| Either die the GOAT or live long enough to become Nas.

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Esch

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even among my rnb friends, no dream love. its like he's too hipster to get love from the typical crowd there, but too real to get hipster love. sad and confusing. but I dunno shit about demographics. y'all gotta ask WanderingWind about that.
 

siddx

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I seem to recall Dream getting a lot of shine a few years ago. When it started coming out that he was writing and producing a bunch of hits for other people, his own music started getting quite a bit of attention. But then he just kind of faded out.
 

OG Kush

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The Dream is eating like mad, he prolly made like $20 mill just of Bieber's "baby" so I doubt he's stressing that much. but yeh it does seem like he's craving to get recognized now.
 

K.Jack

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Ninjas started hating on The Dream when he seeded Christina Milian. It was all downhill from there.
 
Every time I hear a Dream record I imagine him playing that shit for Jay and Beyonce during a private picnic. They gas him up, hyping the song...then they ask him to go get the Cirac from the Bently trunk. He struggles up a hill towards the parking lot, then Bey turns his music off, turns on The Weeknd, and has sex with Hov. By the time Dream comes back with the Cirac he's tired, and Bey has turned his music back on. They tell him they love his music and he gets a boner as he makes sandwiches for them.

Needless to say, I don't fuck with Dream.
 

Ephemeris

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Every time I hear a Dream record I imagine him playing that shit for Jay and Beyonce during a private picnic. They gas him up, hyping the song...then they ask him to go get the Cirac from the Bently trunk. He struggles up a hill towards the parking lot, then Bey turns his music off, turns on The Weeknd, and has sex with Hov. By the time Dream comes back with the Cirac he's tired, and Bey has turned his music back on. They tell him they love his music and he gets a boner as he makes sandwiches for them.

Needless to say, I don't fuck with Dream.

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Recon

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I like dream, a lot. But he is missing something. I don't know what that something is, but I'll fuck with Miguel and The Weeknd before the dream. But, I still really like him and 4 Play is really nice. Maybe it's just the production he goes over isn't as interesting to me.
 

mooooose

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When I listed the Wu albums that was just the order.

Wu Forever > Liquid Swords > OB4CL > Supreme Clientele > 36 Chambers > Return 36 > Tical > Bulletproof Wallets > The W

IMO. Wu forever as the top choice is weird but the beats are really polished and everyone was at their peak lyrically, even if there is a ton of BS on the album.

I'm also a Ghost Stan which is obvious by my album order.





Also the new Daft Punk Max B French song was AMAZINGGGGGGGG
 

iavi

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Is it Gaf-Hop confession time again?

Gaf-Hop, I don't much dig any of that dirty Wu shit. Sorry, 36, I don't even see why those ninjas get the play they do.


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As far as the dream goes, I agree with Recon; I like him, but it's not like he's some amazing musician or writer. I'd pick Miguel, Frank, or TheWeeknd over that ninja every day of the week.
 

DominoKid

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first off, this gif is hilarious.

The Dream is eating like mad, he prolly made like $20 mill just of Bieber's "baby" so I doubt he's stressing that much. but yeh it does seem like he's craving to get recognized now.

shit i wonder how much he made off Umbrella and Single Ladies then.

Honest to god, all the people I know that love the-dream aside from myself and handful of gaffers are female. That's the only thing I can add to this. Most dudes just don't fuck with him at all and don't care to.

I still don't know how Dope Bitch didn't blow up and he had to fight label to get IV Play out.

See I only know dudes that like him, and not that many. That's why I brought up the looks thing because R&B sort of fans are shallow like pop fans.
 
When I listed the Wu albums that was just the order.

Wu Forever > Liquid Swords > OB4CL > Supreme Clientele > 36 Chambers > Return 36 > Tical > Bulletproof Wallets > The W

IMO. Wu forever as the top choice is weird but the beats are really polished and everyone was at their peak lyrically, even if there is a ton of BS on the album.

I just listened to Wu Forever a couple of weeks back and I'd have to agree especially with the first disc. It's Yourz >>>
 
but on the real, MBDTF and GKMC are better than anything from the Wu, as individuals or a group.

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I fucks with Tical real heavy.

I played it through last night while I was smoking. Hadn't listened in a while and god damn its still pretty great.

Confession time. I've never listened to any of the Wu's work.

Sort your life out.

Is it Gaf-Hop confession time again?

Gaf-Hop, I don't much dig any of that dirty Wu shit. Sorry, 36, I don't even see why those ninjas get the play they do.

Your off my xmas card list.



As for the Dream, the guy is just kinda... there. Never really impressed me or irritated me.
 

OG Kush

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first listened to Chance the Rapper yesterday and listened to a few songs of his since then... not sure what to make of him. Definitely sounds more original than a lot of the other young and up n comers but I'm not sure if I like his voice or not.
 

Recon

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first listened to Chance the Rapper yesterday and listened to a few songs of his since then... not sure what to make of him. Definitely sounds more original than a lot of the other young and up n comers but I'm not sure if I like his voice or not.

I actually got past his voice today. Listened to his whole tape while driving. Very nice style. Cocoa Butter Kisses is a great track.
 
I actually got past his voice today. Listened to his whole tape while driving. Very nice style. Cocoa Butter Kisses is a great track.

I knew it would happen eventually. SHit is just too catchy man. Even if you hate it you can't help but sing some of those songs in your head. *dap* on the 808 and heartbreak love too
 

Recon

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I knew it would happen eventually. SHit is just too catchy man. Even if you hate it you can't help but sing some of those songs in your head. *dap* on the 808 and heartbreak love too

Yeah, it is insanely catchy. He has a nice sing song style, but with content that aint embarrassing. And hell yeah @808's!
 

Recon

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I always liked Frank Ocean more for his potential than any single project he did. Then Channel Orange dropped.After the hype died down, I was left with a very boring project with a few stand out tracks.
 

Recon

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I just cant get past how...generic Dream is. He is solid, but doesnt have that "special" something. Like how Abel has date rapping girls and Frank has his homosexuality, Dream has nothing unique.





Mod warning: Obviously part of that post was tongue in cheek, I dont see Date rape as a positive or being gay as a negative.
 

iavi

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Speaking of Frank, I recently revisited Channel Orange, and I don't even know; it's grown on me with age, a lot. Sweet Life, Crack Rock, Bad Religion, Pink Matter (3 stacks solo aside) and more--so good. Frank's a horrible vocalist, but he's an incredible writer with an idea of varied song structure.

It's weird. I like the Weeknd's disco more, a lot more, if only because he makes to the point, catchy melodrama, but can easily say Frank is far, far more talented. Actually, I think we may be seeing Abel hit the tip of his one-note, with the complaints of him sounding samey already starting to come up. But frank, he'll keep right on.

Miguel's a better vocalist than all four, but the least talented when it comes to everything else, imo.

The Dream, I haven't really heard enough to have an opinion.
 

Jitters

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I didn't know Autre Ne Veut and How to Dress Well counted. Dream is so damn generic and boring. The Weekend's sound is beyond stale now.
 

iavi

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James Blake is a far better instrumentalist than any of these motherfuckers, but he's not as good a writer as Frank. Blake's shit tends to be as bad a mothafuckin JRPG when it comes to convolution, whereas Frank knows how to strike without doing that, or sounding like Babies First R&B track.

He's a far better writer than Miguel, The Dream, or The Weeknd, though.
 
I find it odd how all these R&B singers each have this one huge flaw in which case they seem to make up for incredibly well for in other areas.

Edit: Maybe exaggeration on "huge"
 

DominoKid

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James Blake is a far better instrumentalist than any of these motherfuckers, but he's not as good a writer as Frank. Blake's shit tends to be as bad a mothafuckin JRPG when it comes to convolution, whereas Frank knows how to strike without doing that, or sounding like Babies First R&B track.

He's a far better writer than Miguel, The Dream, or The Weeknd, though.

the-dream is by far the best producer out of all of them. hell i'd argue he's the best writer too (Frank's pen is a little too flighty sometimes for my liking). maybe not for his own stuff, but overall. his voice is his weak point.
 

Recon

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the-dream is by far the best producer out of all of them. hell i'd argue he's the best writer too (Frank's pen is a little too flighty for my liking). maybe not for his own stuff, but overall. his voice is his weak point.

I would say Dreams production, while good, is completely forgettable compared to The Weeknd, and others.
 

see5harp

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I just cant get past how...generic Dream is. He is solid, but doesnt have that "special" something. Like how Abel has date rapping girls and Frank has his homosexuality, Dream has nothing unique.





Mod warning: Obviously part of that post was tongue in cheek, I dont see Date rape as a positive or being gay as a negative.

What? Did you all just start listening to The Dream? Surely you are joking. I love The Weeknd for the production but The-Dream is going on like 4 straight super hot albums along with the multitudes of #1 pop classics he wrote for other people. I'm not even sure how people are calling dude generic.
 

Recon

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That motherfucker put clams casino on his album

JUST BLAZE again....yes

If that is real...then it just became my most anticipated album of the year.

What? Did you all just start listening to The Dream? Surely you are joking. I love The Weeknd for the production but The-Dream is going on like 4 straight super hot albums along with the multitudes of #1 pop classics he wrote for other people. I'm not even sure how people are calling dude generic.
Not sure how anything you said refutes what I said, since everything I said was just my opinion. I even said he was good and liked him. Calm down.
 

iavi

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the-dream is by far the best producer out of all of them. hell i'd argue he's the best writer too (Frank's pen is a little too flighty sometimes for my liking). maybe not for his own stuff, but overall. his voice is his weak point.

I would say Dreams production, while good, is completely forgettable compared to The Weeknd, and others.

Yeah, I share Recons exact opinion. It's actually my opinion on The Dream at large. I haven't heard every LP of his, but what I have heard has never made me go 'fuck, I gotta hear what else this dude has to offer' It's just there. IV Play is eliciting the same reaction out of me: played it a few times, like it, will probably never listen to again.
 

Recon

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Yeah, I share Recons exact opinion. It's actually my opinion on The Dream at large. I haven't heard every LP of his, but what I have heard has never made me go 'fuck, I gotta hear what else this dude has to offer' It's just there. IV Play is eliciting the same reaction out of me: played it a few times, like it, will probably never listen to again.

Yeah, I always thought The Dream was good, just nothing unique. Which doesnt matter since he cakes off of other artists like crazy.

James Blake beat too. I've been waiting for someone to finally give this dude a call for some of his production.



Needs to give a July release date or August hopefully...

A july release date would be amazing.
 

Recon

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40 Water handling the bulk of production on Drakes new shit makes me happy. The additional list of awesome producers makes me even happier.
 
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