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GAF-Hop |OT8| Let Blackace Down
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Yeah, I think really at the end of the day you have to judge an artist by their actual art, not their personality. There's been a lot of asshole artists that still make great art.
This will be me for the next two days.
Hence the quotation marks. What was it?
Oldschoolgamer
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A difference in opinion.
To be real, if it ever came to bars...Danny has it free. lol.
Danny's hair alone would've won.
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IrishNinja
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it was sad but yeah, i saw bumpin & moshing at a wu show, i was in the cut with dudes sharing their stash but it happens
for real though if you bout that moshing shit go to a rock/industrial/punk/whatever show, i used to do that in the day and you can't escape them shits
i think that's the only red album i havent heard yet, kinda worried this'd be my take too
solid list, and i get what you're saying but i still revisit Darkside since it was the first one i heard him on, shit like Can't Wait gets me hyped
god, the last rock the bells they had down here, he was pushing that ice water shit...zero charisma from those dudes. it was literally what you'd expect if you came to see nas or pac or whoever and they gave the bravehearts/outlaws/junior mafia etc the mic for what felt like an hour, just terrible and the dude you wanna see rap is just acting like their hypeman. i cheered like crazy when they got off stage
Pretty sure Jay hired someone to walk around the WTT sessions and just take notes on whatever the hell Ye has been talking about so he can parrot it later, trying to be bout that life so bad like Ye is.
He was pimping JD Era for some time, no?
Been enjoying some vanilla Breyers lately. So smooth.
IrishNinja
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i'm not even a bus fan and i cannot bring myself to watch that shit again...ugh
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Been curious about this myself, but there are so many things that factor in.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Jays discog.>Ye's discog for me. Its not even comparable
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I mean, for me, Jay has 3 classics. Black Album, Blueprint and American Gangster. Plus there's stuff on all his albums I can listen to and still enjoy.
With Ye, his first two are great albums. Not personal classics but great albums. Graduation is 80% good, 808's is up there too. I'd rate MBDTF and Yeezus as his bottom 2 albums.
Jay just wins it for me. I've listened to his shit more and Its easier for me to go back and throw his albums on.
With Ye, his first two are great albums. Not personal classics but great albums. Graduation is 80% good, 808's is up there too. I'd rate MBDTF and Yeezus as his bottom 2 albums.
Jay just wins it for me. I've listened to his shit more and Its easier for me to go back and throw his albums on.
The worst part about that battle is watching DJ Skee in the back trying to process everything going wrong in front of him, and that no shirt wearing motherfucker constantly licking his lips throughout.
I think Ye has done way more with his 6 albums than Jay has done with his 12+. The way it's looking right now, Ye will definitely be remembered more fondly in the future. If Jay had hung it up after Black album, I think things would be different. No one will forget Jay's early contributions to the game but as of now it's just embarrassing with how inconsistent he's been.
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People really confuse this thread with real world opinions. Kanye really isn't held in such a high regard as he is on minority forums etc.
Im a fan of his honestly, but he's really not the dude people make him out to be on here.
Im a fan of his honestly, but he's really not the dude people make him out to be on here.
Yeah, but that's popular appeal. By that measurement, Twilight > all of the literary canon
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At the end of the day yeah maybe I could see it happening. As it is now I would disagree. And if Ye makes more Yeezus type of records that day will never come.
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If you want real world opinions, Weezy, Drake and Jay are the holy trinity.
People hate Kanye for the person he is, and have difficulty separating the man from the music. Or if you want to look at it even a bit closer, difficulty acknowledging that the man is the reason why the music is the way it is. I can't think of an artist that's been as unpredictable, risky, consistent and hungry as he is for such a span of time. Maybe Busta?
Honestly, I understand why Ye has a cultish fanbase, to some extent I even think it's justified considering his accomplishments. The other half I think is just people (me included) who buy into this borderline savant character that breathes music and goes on this sort of holy journey every time he tries to make music. While Jay is parlaying with multimillion dollar organizations, Ye is in Hawaii giving RZA, Swizz Beatz and Q-Tip schedules for the allotted time they can eat, do charity work and exercise before they have to come to the studio to work until 3AM, and hanging "What would Mobb Deep do?" posters on the studio walls. That and how everyone who comes out of his sessions talks about how much they learned and how inspired they are from that process. KTT and co. buy into the grind and the dude's passion for what he does. I don't get that feeling from Jay, or even just listening to his music in isolation of who the guy is. American Gangster was the last glint of inspiration I've heard from dude, and I really didn't think too fondly of that project outside of a few really high highs.
If not Ye has at least pushed the genre forward waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than hov
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I get that he has that cultish fanbase. And he does produce great music there's no denying that.
You mention separating the man from the music and thats a good point, Ye is a passionate dude and it shows. Just me personally I look more at the music and the person less. And just based on music I've always enjoyed Jays music more.
And by real world opinions, if we're hanging out drinking and smoking and a Jay song comes on people enjoy that more than if a Kanye song comes on. Completely subjective I know, but in general people seem to be not even more a fan of Jay Z, but less a part of that cultish fanbase thats all over the internet.
I've never met anyone who is as big into Kanye as some of the folks on here. Not saying that there's anything wrong with that, but just that Kanye isn't really as big as he seems on here.
But then thats just my opinion, what the fuck do I know. I was getting high with a girl from work last night and she put Take Care on and I thought it was good for the most part.
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you know ye gotta be thinkin man im glad belafonte aint tossing my name in the streets right now, that's a nice change of pace
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Eminem is playing here this week, Chance the Rapper is one of the opening acts. No one will have a clue who the guy is
Edit: damn, Yelawolf, Slaughterhouse, Earlwolf are supporting too. Wish I didn't have to sell my ticket now...
Edit: damn, Yelawolf, Slaughterhouse, Earlwolf are supporting too. Wish I didn't have to sell my ticket now...
I think that comes down with hits primarily. As far as hits go, and stuff that has broader appeal, yeah Jay takes the crown. Jay is more popular and has been around longer, flat out. Kanye pretty much assassinated himself in the public eye and isn't making enough pop records to sustain a grip on the mainstream like say, Chris Brown.
Kanye has jams too, but since Heartless, it's been a bit thinner as far as stuff that blows up. If Can't Tell Me Nothing comes on, you better believe a ton of hip-hop heads will be singing along, but I doubt your casual listener has even heard of that song. Mercy was pretty much everywhere, but it doesn't vibe with women the same either. Whereas Jay has had hits peppered throughout his entire career and that's why he is where he is right now. Hard Knock Life, Big Pimpin, Izzo, Bonnie & Clyde, Dirt Off Your Shoulder, Swagga Like Us, Empire State Of Mind, N***as in Paris, etc. Tough to match by anyone.
I get looks when I talk to people about being a huge Kanye fan.
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Can't Tell me Nothin is a mainstay in the car playlist. Such a great track
MuddyDonut
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I've met one of those cultish Ye fans at my uni and some of my coworkers love the guy. We even put New Slaves on the little radio out front and rapped it word for word.
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Anyone down for some plug?
this and Jesus Piece are my fav tracks from the tape
listened to this earlier todayThis dude sounds like a swagged out Quasimoto, got super blazed to this after a very long hiatus. definitely check it out:
who else in this thread fucks with swag rap?
IrishNinja
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i work with a few REAL RAP slaughterhouse dudes
never heard someone mention hopsin in real life though, that'd be something
never heard someone mention hopsin in real life though, that'd be something
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what the hell.....
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I like Slaughterhouse
IrishNinja
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i mean that's fine, even if i cant do a whole album myself
but if i can't talk about Kendrick, Krit or cut off the "Cole is only getting better" dude without being asked "but did you hear that crooked I freestlye tho" there's a problem
they're my dudes but one of em's on that MCHG = AOTY tip, and that just makes me remember that kid who told me Harvest Moon was the peak of gaming experiences; i'm glad there's people like this out there keepin things interesting but ima need at least 2 or 3 other dudes there if we're gonna meet up for drinks
ThanksVision
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Yo Harvest Moon: AWL is a must-have GCN game k
totally off-topic here but you guys ever have those nights where you don't want to do anything. Like, I don't have any work from class and shit's going down around town but I just wanna hang out inside. Then I end up doing nothing but posting on GAF and playing music. Weird times.
totally off-topic here but you guys ever have those nights where you don't want to do anything. Like, I don't have any work from class and shit's going down around town but I just wanna hang out inside. Then I end up doing nothing but posting on GAF and playing music. Weird times.
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i totally picked that one up for like 75 cents when gamestop was dumping its GC games, still gotta give it a try
and me too man, i totally felt that way tonight - just went swimming and then took a long walk with my dog, not much else i can do when it's like that
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This Cory Gunz tape man.... 
I use to fuck with his music too....
Edit: Wiz killed the fuck out of him on his own track too. I can't even.
I use to fuck with his music too....
Edit: Wiz killed the fuck out of him on his own track too. I can't even.
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