Syphon Filter
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You have terrible taste lol. No sane human being can say yeezus is better than MCHG. I waited 3 years for shit.
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You have terrible taste lol. No sane human being can say yeezus is better than MCHG. I waited 3 years for shit.
MorisUkunRasik
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It's much better, it's better than almost every Jay album too.
Syphon Filter
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Nice trolling.
Guess I'm insane
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Syphon Filter having the nerve to talk about someone having terrible taste. Never thought I'd see the day
It is. It absolutely is way better.
Only 2 tracks I don't like, and I don't consider Grooveline "bad".
Syphon Filter
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Bound 2 is the only good track in the album.
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Yeah, Grooveline isn't really a bad track at all. It's just the placement of the album it almost kills the mood. Kinda knocks you out of the experience.
FreddieQuell
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Bound 2 is maybe in the top 5 guy. Maybe.
I'm In It, Black Skinhead, Blood on the Leaves. Shit I would argue Bound 2 is the worst track on the album.
Agreed, the vocals are fucking awful, lazy sampling and the track is completely out of place for the album it was on.
And "a good girl is worth a thousand bitches" made me cringe so hard.
Justin Timberlake talks a bunch of things.
Confirms "Sinatra at the Sands," a to-be-released Nas x Jay x Timberlake x Timbaland song, talks about his roots in hip-hop with Tribe, reminiscing about Three Six Mafia in the 90s, etc.
Says he's got both a Drake and Jay verse on 20/20 Part 2.
Confirms "Sinatra at the Sands," a to-be-released Nas x Jay x Timberlake x Timbaland song, talks about his roots in hip-hop with Tribe, reminiscing about Three Six Mafia in the 90s, etc.
Says he's got both a Drake and Jay verse on 20/20 Part 2.
This, though I feel like Pilot Talk and Covert Coup are classic.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Most Ye lyrics are bad
Oh shit, yeah, for sure.
Eh, didn't like Jay on suit and tie. Drake song is going to be huge I'm sure.
I know, that line just stood out as super cringe-worthy to me.
WanderingWind
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An album that I can throw on at anytime and it changes my mood. It has to bring me back to the point of time when I heard it, encapsulate that time and still sound engaging and fresh after many listens. It has to have an influence on the game. It has to have something behind it outside of just a collection of interesting singles, some cohesion or theme that runs throughout, even if that theme is shallow.
Rated by who? And no, they factor precisely zero for what I consider a classic, but it can definitely tell you that the rest of the word thinks you're wrong. If I hated Illmatic, it would be pretty presumptuous of me to not admit that it's a classic, even if it wasn't for me.
Some combination of 'really great album' with 'can go back and revisit in a year and continue to do so'
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This. Otherwise, just enjoy your great albums bro. Don't need to be a classic for you to enjoy it.
Blackace
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Tropical Delight
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I feel like you should be able to listen to the whole album without skipping to be truely classic
I actually think a lot of Ye's lyrics are underrated. Hi delivery always induced some kind of distaste, but s lot of the content evokes what it sets out to do.
his lyrical content is always simple platitude catchphrase grabbing, and always has been. when he's trying to be deep about politics, history and culture, he sounds like an 8th grader going through Wikipedia.
I feel it. Was just curious, lurking other forums had me wanting to ask that question.
WanderingWind
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Eh. That's popular opinion. And the rap genre in particular was/is very influenced by dollars and vendettas influencing review scores. And then what about albums that are slow burners that didn't reach mass status until after their release was far behind? Look at say, 808s. I'm not a fan, but again, enough people love that album to the point where I have to admit it's just not for me. But when it came out it was very divisive. Now it's pretty beloved.
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Fantastic album
Syphon Filter
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Nope 808's>Yeezy.
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You right
more than puffy's shit? OUCH
WanderingWind
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I would've said that until Yeezus dropped a turd on the world. I like Street Lights.
Is all self-indulgence introspection?
We need more pathetic self-indulgence in rap in that case IMO.
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Right? Yeezus and 808 both fit that exact description. I find it hard someone can say that then go listen to Yeezus
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There are two types of classic albums: classic albums, and personal classic albums. We seem to be talking about actual classic albums right now.
An album being really good doesn't make it a classic. You have to look at its impact, which is why I'm hesitant to call anything released super recently a "classic." The Blueprint had an undeniable impact on hip hop for instance. Yes, me and 36 Chambers will never stop pointing out that RZA birthed the soul sample style, but Kanye/Just Blaze popularized it.
College Dropout nearly completely changed the soundscape of rap music. Before that the only non gangster/party rap on the radio was Eminem. That album spawned the careers of Lupe Fiasco, Kid Cudi, J Cole, and a host of other rappers. I can't stand Graduation, but there's no denying it opened the door for a lot of the EDM shit you hear nonstop on urban and pop radio today.
What impact will Yeezus have? I doubt it'll have much, if any. I think it's an amazing album but are rappers gonna start rapping over industrial shit? Probably not. GKMC has received universal acclaim, is it a classic? Probably, but I want to wait and see where hip hop goes. A lot of people claimed GKMC was gonna change the game by making rappers try to release their own masterpieces - like when The Beatles released Sgt. Pepper and everyone tried to make their own version. Well a year later most major rap releases have been meh or bad, from J Cole to Jay Z. So I'm gonna wait.
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Personal classics: I think Covert Coup and Pilot Wings are classics. In a few years we might even be able to argue at least one is a legit classic, considering both are blueprints for modern stoner rap. Likewise I think XXX is a classic album and easily the best of the drugged out "swag" rap movement today.
An album being really good doesn't make it a classic. You have to look at its impact, which is why I'm hesitant to call anything released super recently a "classic." The Blueprint had an undeniable impact on hip hop for instance. Yes, me and 36 Chambers will never stop pointing out that RZA birthed the soul sample style, but Kanye/Just Blaze popularized it.
College Dropout nearly completely changed the soundscape of rap music. Before that the only non gangster/party rap on the radio was Eminem. That album spawned the careers of Lupe Fiasco, Kid Cudi, J Cole, and a host of other rappers. I can't stand Graduation, but there's no denying it opened the door for a lot of the EDM shit you hear nonstop on urban and pop radio today.
What impact will Yeezus have? I doubt it'll have much, if any. I think it's an amazing album but are rappers gonna start rapping over industrial shit? Probably not. GKMC has received universal acclaim, is it a classic? Probably, but I want to wait and see where hip hop goes. A lot of people claimed GKMC was gonna change the game by making rappers try to release their own masterpieces - like when The Beatles released Sgt. Pepper and everyone tried to make their own version. Well a year later most major rap releases have been meh or bad, from J Cole to Jay Z. So I'm gonna wait.
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Personal classics: I think Covert Coup and Pilot Wings are classics. In a few years we might even be able to argue at least one is a legit classic, considering both are blueprints for modern stoner rap. Likewise I think XXX is a classic album and easily the best of the drugged out "swag" rap movement today.
Syphon Filter
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GKMC ain't a classic yet, but you have folks stay trying to make it seem like one.
CountBlack
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808's is great.
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I don't think you really need 10 years, but maybe that's how long it will actually take for GKMC to finally have an impact LOL.
classics stand the test of time. if it aint being mentioned 10 years from now. it aint a classic.
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