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[WanderingWind]

So? I'm not even sure why you brought up RUN DMC or 16 years olds of today. I said nothing about people not mentioning albums today makes them not classics. So you lost me there

Because if a classic has to have a large time span (1 year, 10 years and 30 years have all been dropped on this page) then there aren't any classics. Certainly not in the 10-30 year time frame, if we then have to couple it with an album that still resonates with a younger audience. Time is an arbitrary designation. If an album is still being called classic after the couple weeks of hype around major releases dies down by a large portion of people who have listened to it, it's probably a classic.

And it's not like people sit around and go "is this a classic...hmm...nah, it's just really great. Guess I'll trashbin it now. Only classics in MY playlists."

 

[Esch]

If someone had a gun to my mother's head and said "Okay, rap half a Run DMC verse or she dies" I'd have to tell her goodbye.

Hahahahaha oh man. Ive never laughed at a dying mother joke before, thanks Toku.

 

[iavi]

Because if a classic has to have a large time span (1 year, 10 years and 30 years have all been dropped on this page) then there aren't any classics. Certainly not in the 10-30 year time frame, if we then have to couple it with an album that still resonates with a younger audience. Time is an arbitrary designation. If an album is still being called classic after the couple weeks of hype around major releases dies down by a large portion of people who have listened to it, it's probably a classic.
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There's a merit to being able to transcend generational taste shifts, though.

 

[The Return of]

You are missing the point. I wasn't saying time is what determines what makes a classic, I think you are mistaking me for what Thabiz said. I'm talking about the impact of an album. I said maybe it will take GKMC 10 years(which was a joke too btw) in order to see the IMPACT and INFLUENCE. THat's a big difference.


30 years was a complete joke btw. Can't believe you took that serious

 

[iavi]

You are missing the point. I wasn't saying time is what determines what makes a classic, I think you are mistaking me for what Thabiz said. I'm talking about the impact of an album. I said maybe it will take GKMC 10 years in order to see the IMPACT and INFLUENCE. THat's a big difference.

in that case, impact is usually seen much quicker. Look at all the Flockaveli-lites that dropped after that megaton. We're still feeling the effects of it.

 

[Macca]

people still gunna be talking bout Fergs Ghetto Symphony verse in 30 years tho

 

[The Return of]

in that case, impact is usually seen much quicker. Look at all the Flockaveli-lights that dropped after that megaton. We're still feeling the effects of it.

I agree and that's why I consider Flockaveli a classic. I can easily look at it and see the influence it had on the game.

 

[overcast]

Gun and a Mask makes me believe in Yela again. Better stop that shit.

Wait up. I love Flockaveli, but there is no fucking way in hell that in 10 years people remember that and not Good Kid. Lets be serious. I see the influence, but the impact line is being crossed here. Seems like as long as it had impact it's a classic.

 

[WanderingWind]

There's a merit to being able to transcend generational taste shifts, though.

True, but that takes generations to discover. I mean, GRODT will not be listened to in 10 years. Neither will a ton of 90s rap. Illmatic will be taught in colleges and shit.

You are missing the point. I wasn't saying time is what determines what makes a classic, I think you are mistaking me for what Thabiz said. I'm talking about the impact of an album. I said maybe it will take GKMC 10 years in order to see the IMPACT and INFLUENCE. THat's a big difference.

30 years was a complete joke btw. Can't believe you took that serious

Except we're already seeing that influence. And you're not the only person to mention lengthy amounts of time having to pass before being able to label something a classic.

I mean, this is all mostly academic, tbh. It's not that serious. I mean, GKMC is a classic, and you know it deep down, but if you want to wait until Hannukah or whatever to call it that, that's cool.

It is though.

 

[iavi]

Gun and a Mask makes me believe in Yela again.

Almost turned me back too. Then I came to my senses.

 

[HiResDes]

New Antwon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e9saLEZlKEU

Also:

 

[Esch]

Lex Luger is the most influential producer of the 21st century

 

[The Return of]

Trunk Muzik Returns is a great album

ASAP Ferg dropped a better album than ASAP ROCKY

Schoolboy Q has released nothing but flops

Eminem recent single sounds like COMPLETE MUSICAL DIARRHEA

Drake gone release AOTY

Danny Brown is going to suck

and GKMC isn't a classic

Bye

 

[thabiz]

you'd think em would know not to rip off the boys. it cant be done. not even with rick.

 

[WanderingWind]

Shit. I was talking rap with a Drake fan.

Fuck is wrong with me.

 

[Tropical Delight]

Then Hip-hop hasn't had a classic yet

Nor has most veins of music since the 8-track

You really don't have one album of any genre that you can listen to front to back? Since the 8-track I mean

 

[overcast]

Tguy talking lies in here. I think we've had enough of that.

Take a breather, listen to GKMC/HnC on repeat. Come back enlightened.

 

[thabiz]

Shit. I was talking rap with a Drake fan.

Fuck is wrong with me.

that will learn ya.

 

[WanderingWind]

that will learn ya.

#newrules

*pukes*

 

[iavi]

Schoolboy releasing nothing but flops isn't a lie, though. As much as it hurts. If we're to pit the commercial success of weed carrier against weed carrier, ASAP FERG wins. Think about that.

 

[overcast]

Ferg is more successful than Q?

I don't think either have been wildly successful necessarily.

 

[naw]

Q dropping duds really does hurt me

oxymoron is gonna suck

 

[iavi]

Ferg is more successful than Q?

I don't think either have been wildly successful necessarily.

Ferg gets radio play.

 

[HiResDes]

Dying in the Pussy = VOTY.

 

[WanderingWind]

Damn, give a bucket hat a chance to actually drop his album before calling it a flop. UOENO

Ferg gets radio play.

Q gets a ton of play in LA. Pretty big place, LA.

 

[thabiz]

Dying in the Pussy = VOTY.

lol.

so hip it hurts.

 

[DominoKid]

Damn, give a bucket hat a chance to actually drop his album before calling it a flop. UOENO



Q gets a ton of play in LA. Pretty big place, LA.

they already throwing Q in the bushes.

 

[overcast]

Ferg gets radio play.

Q is going to sell more than Ferg. I'll bet on it.

 

[iavi]

Q gets a ton of play in LA. Pretty big place, LA.

Never hear him at all up here in the bay. Shabba and Work, on the other hand.

Q is going to sell more than Ferg. I'll bet on it.

Avatar bet. Q sells more than Ferg first week, and I'll wear your ava of choice for a month. Vice Versa.

 

[PBY]

So I brought this up earlier.

Track one on Stay Trippy is a recycled beat. It's Travis Scott's "pussy".

This industry is weird.

 

[Esch]

Q is going to sell more than Ferg. I'll bet on it.

high milestones for success being set here

hopefully better than Ferg cuh

 

[WanderingWind]

they already throwing Q in the bushes.

All joking aside, I'm sort of with Toku. This thread gets way too negative about shit that hasn't even happened yet. Sometimes it turns into a "who can hate in the most hilarious way" circlejerk. Shit ain't healthy for the soul, bros.

Shit, I have Yeezus 2x listens before deciding it sucked balls.

But, I mean, Drake's album is still gonna suck.

 

[The Return of]

Yeah, but it removed Travis Scott off the beat so it's good now

 

[HiResDes]

lol.

so hip it hurts.

Shit is hilarious.

 

[overcast]

high milestones for success being set here

hopefully better than Ferg cuh

Lmao.

Album will definitely be better, it'll sell pretty well I think. But I think that's a bit more questionable.

 

[thabiz]

Shit is hilarious.

no its just sad. i hope the art student got credit in their class for that.

 

[iavi]

All joking aside, I'm sort of with Toku. This thread gets way too negative about shit that hasn't even happened yet. Sometimes it turns into a "who can hate in the most hilarious way" circlejerk. Shit ain't healthy for the soul, bros.

Shit, I have Yeezus 2x listens before deciding it sucked balls.

But, I mean, Drake's album is still gonna suck.

Nobody was saying Yeezus was going to suck, tho. Total opposite, in fact. Perterboy's hype had bled into all of us a bit, last I remember.

Then I listened to it.

 

[PBY]

Nobody was saying Yeezus was going to suck, tho. Total opposite, in fact. Perterboy's hype had bled into all of us a bit.

And it lived up to it!

 

[The Return of]

All joking aside, I'm sort of with Toku. This thread gets way too negative about shit that hasn't even happened yet. Sometimes it turns into a "who can hate in the most hilarious way" circlejerk. Shit ain't healthy for the soul, bros.

Shit, I have Yeezus 2x listens before deciding it sucked balls.

But, I mean, Drake's album is still gonna suck.

Based off the positive reactions I've seen this thread go at times vs negative. I think I rather have us be negative than positive about shit.

 

[DominoKid]

Q is going to sell more than Ferg. I'll bet on it.

he's supposed to...

 

[HiResDes]

no its just sad. i hope the art student got credit in their class for that.

I don't know man it seems super self-aware to me and is really funny. You seem like more like a serious rap guy tho.

 

[Esch]

All joking aside, I'm sort of with Toku. This thread gets way too negative about shit that hasn't even happened yet. Sometimes it turns into a "who can hate in the most hilarious way" circlejerk. Shit ain't healthy for the soul, bros.

you kidding me? internet hate is chicken soup for the soul. It's cathartic in a way that nothing but boozing, whoring, and heavy bag sessions can rival. Hating on the internet lets me go ahead and smile and act like mr. positivity at day after day of soul numbing work. I have no idea how our ancestors dealt with this shit. Probably alcoholism and domestic abuse.

 

[WanderingWind]

Based off the positive reactions I've seen this thread go at times vs negative. I think I rather have us be negative than positive about shit.

I feel like you need like, a hug or something after this. Go smoke a bowl, Snoop.

you kidding me? internet hate is chicken soup for the soul. It's cathartic in a way that nothing but boozing, whoring, and heavy bag sessions can rival. Hating on the internet lets me go ahead and smile and act like mr. positivity at day after day of soul numbing work. I have no idea how our ancestors dealt with this shit. Probably alcoholism and domestic abuse.

Fucking knew you worked for the NSA

 

[enzo_gt]

At this rate, I'm pretty confident OLD will suck.

 

[thabiz]

I don't know man it seems super self-aware to me and is really funny. You seem like more like a serious rap guy tho.

lol

 

[iavi]

I feel like you need like, a hug or something after this. Go smoke a bowl, Snoop.

A bowl when in a bad place isn't good for the soul.

At this rate, I'm pretty confident OLD will suck.

This ones a given.

I feel like Danny XXX was the album Danny was saving up for. He'd release mixtapes and all, but in the back of his mind wanted to write that shit. Then he did. and it was good. But the world can't be created again/lighting doesn't strike twice. etc.

 

[Blackace]

You really don't have one album of any genre that you can listen to front to back? Since the 8-track I mean

There are always weak songs

I can listen to em and have but won't always

 

[Tokubetsu]

So I brought this up earlier.

Track one on Stay Trippy is a recycled beat. It's Travis Scott's "pussy".

This industry is weird.

You keep bringing this up like anyone gives a shit about Travis Scott.

 

[WanderingWind]

A bowl when in a bad place isn't good for the soul.

Word?

I'm a drunk. I have no frame of reference outside of Half Baked, a vague recollection of my college years and what Gangter Rap tells me.

 

[PBY]

You keep bringing this up like anyone gives a shit about Travis Scott.

Its less to do with Scott, and more about how the industry is absolutely fascinating to me.

Like, how does that happen?