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MCHG really wasnt that bad, god damn.
compared to what, current stuff or jay's heights/capability though
Only one classic rap album in the past 2 years.
Yeezus.
...i like it, way more than MBTDF and a lotta shit but it's nowhere near there
GKMC before that was MBDTF.
nothing about MBDTF was classic, seriously. i just got done saying i really liked yeezus but that doesn't magically push past its many faults, same goes here
/tokus
Shit dude, I totally forgot that Wale dropped an album. Jeez.
don't feel bad, so did everyone else
GKMC and XXX are the only classics in the past few years...Though albums like In Search of Stoney Jackson and Death is Silent definitely deserve nods.
i wish i loved XXX like some of ya'll, but i like these noms at least
GKMC is the last album I considered classic in a long ass time. Like, over 5 years I feel. Lol.
that's not a bad thing though, to me you shouldn't be eager to hand out that status, kinda takes away from its meaning
i do agree that you should let time pass before claiming it though, aint no hurry to make a freshly-dead pope a saint neither...damn i hate talkin to moms and thinkin of irish catholic analogies n shit
You have terrible taste lol. No sane human being can say yeezus is better than MCHG. I waited 3 years for shit.
<< this guy
this guy right here says it all day
This, though I feel like Pilot Talk and Covert Coup are classic.
ehh...they're great albums by me, again when i revisit em a bit down the road i might agree, not sure from here
there was never a point when this wasn't true.
even the biggest ye stan should be comfortable admitting this, perhaps with the "corny metaphors are part of his charm" caveat
to me if you go past that line in stannery (the inability to accept/admit this) you're that dude on twitter when #BadLilWayneMetaphors trends writing "YALL JUST DONT GET HIM CAUSE HE TOO DEEP"
Some combination of 'really great album' with 'can go back and revisit in a year and continue to do so'
this is definitely part of my criteria
Gotta have like a max 8:2 Good to bad ratio.
i'm totally with ace on even the best having a weak track or two but yeah, no matter how high the highs the lows must be relatively infrequent
There are two types of classic albums: classic albums, and personal classic albums. We seem to be talking about actual classic albums right now.
An album being really good doesn't make it a classic. You have to look at its impact, which is why I'm hesitant to call anything released super recently a "classic." The Blueprint had an undeniable impact on hip hop for instance. Yes, me and 36 Chambers will never stop pointing out that RZA birthed the soul sample style, but Kanye/Just Blaze popularized it.
likewise i co-sign a lotta this, but i'm hesitant to put influence as part of the criteria like ya'll do. some of the best classics we herald didn't really change shit for whatever scene was popular at the time, and likewise, there's albums with the right sound at the right time that i don't think any of ya'll would call "classic" but they blew up and influenced a sound for a while regardless.
it's great when the two coincide - you could argue Criminology and others here - but they don't have to. to cross mediums, everyone goes on about Citizen Kane's cinematography, but overall top 25 greatest films (meaning storytelling, acting and all other criteria you'd expect from such a list) i don't think that alone would carry it. this argument opens the door to anything from a certain well-timed & produced crunk album to some Black Eyed Peas shit if you tow the line far enough
Theming your album about being butthurt about being dumped by a video ho qualifies as some good introspection now
Damn, no 36 chambers but sometimes I smh at being a 90s babby
hahaha, yeah
again anytime im told "you gotta be in a bad breakup to really feel it" i mean...okay? so we gotta tag on situationals now? i known a lotta white dudes that loved that
let the bodies hit the floor type shit when they were in basic, that doesn't mean i need to be hearing that junk when we're at the drive through at BK tho
Cudi has no classics. Zero. None.
preach, until the masses hear you
Then Hip-hop hasn't had a classic yet
Nor has most veins of music since the 8-track
seriously, this applies to the golden calf that is the beatles too
...goddammit maccas