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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I can't believe I'm agreeing with Esch, but he's right. You people, between this an Yeezus ball washing, have lost your goddamn minds. I can't even take y'all seriously anymore with this shit. BBC is straight buttcrack
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Byakuya769
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I change my "mine." All parties involved lost on BBC. So I just have Jay on Success and Black Republicans.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Nas should spend more time falling deeper into a made up persona of himself slinging crack outside a jewelry store. That'll be dat real shit peeps crave.
Your eyes need washing if you think I've been ballwashing Yeezus, I've been increasingly critical of it and rank it amongst Ye's worst, possibly the worst album he's done (not enough time to tell). Not every stan goes full in.
The production doesn't need to have some trap bass for it to be a good beat, seriously, is this the only thing people listen for anymore in rap production? Shit makes your head nod alongside of it, and I'm glad they're mixing it up with some of that instrumentation and brought some of that old school bump back with the help of that simple piano loop. Maybe the tambourines or whatever are excess, but they're not offensive. If those weren't there people might agree with me, but they wouldn't change it that much IMO.
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I just want him to rap more about Egyptians and pyramids.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I didn't say 'enzo' did I? You ain't you people.
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BBC is produced by Pharrell, Swizz Beatz, AND Timbaland
All that needs to be said concerning the problems with the beat
All that needs to be said concerning the problems with the beat
Oldschoolgamer
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To many cooks in the kitchen...
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or too many BBCs in the .....
exactly. its like when you have 5 girls in the sack. sometimes theres just too much flesh in the room to make sense of it all.
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LOL
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Shit is embarrassing. These people will hide those posts like Zumbas next year
where was that gem hiding?
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MCHG OT. I didn't even bother addressing it. Disgusting
I'm chill with no 808s or trap shit period, but Pharrell's drum patterns are aural HIV. Shit immediately takes any of the bite or snap out of a track and turns it into a careening accident of fruitcake and Britney Spears. Plus the way the vocal samples were handled is just straight awful. Unnecessary.
Bey sounds nice on On the Run tho, and JT obviously did his thing on HG, so it's w/e. One or two awful tracks is straight.
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I don't get why when someone complains about drums or bass, Enzo seems to think people want trap drums or bass as if that's the only type that sounds remotely good lol
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oh god. thats almost cringe worthy.
I don't do that often at all. Esch just cited it not being bassy or punchy, which is sorta a good description for that sort of production.
Maybe I'm just hype TImbo is killing the game this year, IDK
man i thought it was really big of Timbo to admit that he was the cause of the problems between him and Hov.
on the Yeezus 2 tip. considering Kanye specifically asked him to redo the drums for Stronger, I'm surprised they haven't worked together more. i'd love to see what they could cook up.
on the Yeezus 2 tip. considering Kanye specifically asked him to redo the drums for Stronger, I'm surprised they haven't worked together more. i'd love to see what they could cook up.
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Timbo is killing it this year, I agree. I honestly didn't think he would be able to make a comeback
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I might actually give Cole another shot, if he uses some of the shit Timbo sent him. He's had a good year, this first half of 2013.
Mike Will is another one. It's a tragedy his beat was wasted on this effort.
Mike Will is another one. It's a tragedy his beat was wasted on this effort.
Wishing on a remix for this one
I would want to see Timbo and Ye actually in the studio together for a full LP rather than just Timbo sending Ye beats.
Maybe that's what we'll see for WTT2? Pretty sure Jay will want Timbo to do something on there and Ye will ofcourse be overseeing all production.
It seems like he's a lot more open with who he's working with too now. He seemed really bitter about everyone in the game when he went on The Breakfast Club with Missy. I want to see him work with some of the new blood and I wonder how many or who he is actually open to working with.
WanderingWind
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Since Timbo has been back in the rap game, how many texts do you think Bubba Sparxxx has left him?
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I don't want this. Ye can't handle overseeing a whole albums production anymore. The mess that Yeezus was has made me lose all faith I ever had in the guy
Rather see Timbo working with Bubba than Jay or Timerblake.
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kinda like jcole with "the bench and me" everything before that was like "aww shit can't wait for the album. then it drops. and no gaffer wants to admit
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I really don't get how people are so offended by MCHG tho. I mean you'd swear Jay has been dropping lyrical heat right up until this album dropped.
MCHG is typical of a Jay-Z album in the last couple years. Nothing really spectacular or standout, but a solid album that rides the whole way.
There's no straight up bad tracks, at the same time there's no standout masterpieces either. Jay isn't going hard, but it's not like he's terrible either.
People really should've known what to expect.
MCHG is typical of a Jay-Z album in the last couple years. Nothing really spectacular or standout, but a solid album that rides the whole way.
There's no straight up bad tracks, at the same time there's no standout masterpieces either. Jay isn't going hard, but it's not like he's terrible either.
People really should've known what to expect.
I want the OG idea of WTT in terms of content more than anything else out of WTT.
We got hints of that on Yeezus, but that project transformed into more of a musical experiment and that guided the rest of it by the end of it (alongside laying down 2 last minute verses or so).
I can't agree with 36, there's nobody I can think of outside of Dre that I'd want executively producing an album with a variety of sounds. Maybe Alc. The way Ye is able to compress all the different sounds on Yeezus and make them sound like they belong is something else.
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I feel it like this:
Some people still have Reasonable Doubt esque expectations on this dude's 12th studio album. It's a double standard, but hey, it's the most famous rapper in the world and an all time great. it might be merited, shit. I can deal with the high standards, but I can't take cats seriously who listen to and stan for the shittiest, bottom barrel rappers complaining about Jay's bars because they listen to, endorse, and love terrible raps every single day.
Some other people are just mad that Jay writes about winning too much. It's understood, because the average man identifies more with losing and being poor (even if they're winning and rich.
Some people are Nas stans.
Some people are disappointed fans.
I personally enjoy MCHG. It's not a landmark achievement. But it's still chock full of catchy, memorable, enjoyable shit. It could definitely use some more lyrical bon mots, but when I hear this shit i'm not bitter because "Schoolboy Q should have had this beat !(lmfao)". These cats won't ever realize that literally nobody else in the game is capable of tackling and orchestrating a project as wide and resource heavy as this joint and not fail at it. You'll hear people cry and cry about how Jay-Z ruined the beats or album, but they'll never get that their favorite bum never had the right to pull these excaliburs from their stones.
Some people still have Reasonable Doubt esque expectations on this dude's 12th studio album. It's a double standard, but hey, it's the most famous rapper in the world and an all time great. it might be merited, shit. I can deal with the high standards, but I can't take cats seriously who listen to and stan for the shittiest, bottom barrel rappers complaining about Jay's bars because they listen to, endorse, and love terrible raps every single day.
Some other people are just mad that Jay writes about winning too much. It's understood, because the average man identifies more with losing and being poor (even if they're winning and rich.
Some people are Nas stans.
Some people are disappointed fans.
I personally enjoy MCHG. It's not a landmark achievement. But it's still chock full of catchy, memorable, enjoyable shit. It could definitely use some more lyrical bon mots, but when I hear this shit i'm not bitter because "Schoolboy Q should have had this beat !(lmfao)". These cats won't ever realize that literally nobody else in the game is capable of tackling and orchestrating a project as wide and resource heavy as this joint and not fail at it. You'll hear people cry and cry about how Jay-Z ruined the beats or album, but they'll never get that their favorite bum never had the right to pull these excaliburs from their stones.
WanderingWind
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Deliverance is one of my favorite albums, so I agree. But you know that isn't ever happening again.
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kinda wanna hear what a timbo and mani fresh album would sound like. HELL i just wanna hear mani fresh beats again.
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This nails it right here. This paragraph.
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Yeah, it's a fun beat. Cheesy as hell, but you think it's taking itself seriously? BBC is cheddar, Oceans be that cheez wiz (those horns are garbage). Whose nodding their head to Frank Ocean's chorus or Beyonce on Part II. BBC's got a more fitting BPM than half the shit on MCHG, unless you into barbiturate Jay.
as far as the expectations of Hov himself on MCHG? i didn't expect much because as a rapper, Hov hasn't been spectacular since the Black Album. other than Thank You, i cant think of a Hov verse where I thought "damn i really need to hear that again." but i definitely expected more than the struggle flows we got. i just don't understand how he let his flow, his strongest feature as a rapper, get so far away from him.
so yeah, while other artists may not have been able to get these beats or pull this project together, you have to be really in Hov's corner to say he didn't waste them in the sense that other artists wouldn't have put these beats to much better use. because they would. he brought absolutely nothing to them. flow, content, engaging deliveries, etc. and this is wearing my super-critical hat, because i actually really love the album. it checks a lot of my boxes, but it could've been that much better w/ a Hov in better form.
Yep.
there's a lot of things you can say about Yeezus, but "a mess" it is not. if you don't like it, whatever. it wasn't made for everybody to like.
but i think it's his greatest, most concise and least wasteful of his albums. the sound itself is so self-indulgent that the actual music doesnt have to be.
so yeah, while other artists may not have been able to get these beats or pull this project together, you have to be really in Hov's corner to say he didn't waste them in the sense that other artists wouldn't have put these beats to much better use. because they would. he brought absolutely nothing to them. flow, content, engaging deliveries, etc. and this is wearing my super-critical hat, because i actually really love the album. it checks a lot of my boxes, but it could've been that much better w/ a Hov in better form.
Yep.
there's a lot of things you can say about Yeezus, but "a mess" it is not. if you don't like it, whatever. it wasn't made for everybody to like.
but i think it's his greatest, most concise and least wasteful of his albums. the sound itself is so self-indulgent that the actual music doesnt have to be.
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