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GAF-Hop |OT8| Let Blackace Down
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Domino, breh, just love the album man. You're already there. Just embrace it. Keep pretending you dont enjoy those Jay swag bars. Fuck a critic shit has me doing the Rick Ross pancake dance.
Also @Thabiz or anyone industry involved, is this accurate?
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i don't really. the only one that's really caught my ear is the "fuck hashtags and retweets, i got 140 characters in these streets" because it sounds like a lost Gucci Mane line. most of it goes in one ear and out the other.
My problem with it is completely unmemorable outside of the Tom Ford beat, nor are any of the hooks catchy. The best songs on the album are those that remind you of the old Jay.
I'm not sure what makes it a "landmark achievement" either, usually I save that term for game changing shit or significant adversity involved in the creative process. Calling up 4 Jay stan producers that would do anything for you to work on the biggest artist in the world's album isn't any sort of creative adversity for me. And it's not like it's the first time he's had them all on his albums either.
And the complaints of Jay wasting the beats only comes because he failed to ride them properly in the first place. It would be serviceable if he had some sort of consistent flow with some great punchlines (though I'd still be disappointed because Jay doesn't need to be pandering to other lanes when he has his). People aren't hearing the beats and going "damn this is hot, Q should get this joint" before listening to Jay, just because it's Jay. People are hearing it and going "damn, Jay really wasted this shit, what the fuck did I just listen to, I think Q would've handled it much better, it seems more suited to his skillset." And for the most part, that rings true for most of the beats people are talking about too. Jay doesn't fail lyrically on them, his flow just doesn't produce something fruitful or something you want to hit repeat on immediately. A lot of it is a wrap when it comes to the cadences Jay attacks those beats with anyways. It's sorta akin to when H.A.M. came out.
MorisUkunRasik
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I'm not giving Jay credit for getting these beats. He's one of the most well known rappers alive if not the most well known, has more industry connects and cash than anyone in the industry. Of course he's gonna get tons of great beats, he squandered most of them tho that's the problem.
I think it has some enjoyable one liners
Feds still lurking/they see im still putting work in/cuz somewhere in America, Miley Cyrus is still twerking"
Crashing your internet (shit had me lmao after the samsung fiasco)
Got me feeling like Brody in Homeland
Conspiracy theorists screaming illuminati/ they cant believe this much skill is in a human body/he 6'2 how the fuck he fit in a new bugatti/ ah fuck it you got me
There was some sh*t on there about him fucking B like a prostitute and "taking Destiny on a date" that had me like
Feds still lurking/they see im still putting work in/cuz somewhere in America, Miley Cyrus is still twerking"
Crashing your internet (shit had me lmao after the samsung fiasco)
Got me feeling like Brody in Homeland
Conspiracy theorists screaming illuminati/ they cant believe this much skill is in a human body/he 6'2 how the fuck he fit in a new bugatti/ ah fuck it you got me
There was some sh*t on there about him fucking B like a prostitute and "taking Destiny on a date" that had me like
4th Chamber
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His resources/connections ain't indicative of his talent, at least nowadays. Not sure why that matters as it's got shit to do with the quality of rap on display here. What good are all these beats at your disposal if you can't flow on them? I don't care about Jay's ambitions/intended vision for the album, that shit is irrelevant when I'm listening to it. Tom Ford might of been dope, could've been dope, but only with a rapper that can match the beat. You can say that with most songs on the album. No one's saying any one rapper should try and rap over EVERY beat on the album. Like you said they'd fail, just like Jay does.
Enzo is pretty spot on.
PhoenixDark
Banned
What does this even mean? I should give Jay dap for getting a bunch of producers in the studio, even if the product isn't good? The general impression thus far is that the album isn't coherent and featured too many cooks in the kitchen. Grats to Jay for getting them all in the studio, it's impressive. But last time I checked Kanye brought a whole bunch of people into the studio too and came out with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Jay came out with this. You tell me who won lol.
(and yes, I believe Dark Fantasy badly needed an exec producer but it's a dope album with a coherent tone)
So Jay-z is wack as fuck on the beats, but it's okay because only he could have gotten them...This is ass fucking backwards and a stupid stanning ass post.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Just heard BBC...
brehs...
Jay verse>Nas verse
brehs...
Jay verse>Nas verse
Just heard BBC...
brehs...
Jay verse>Nas verse
BBC is liking choosing between types of feces, Jay-Z vs Nas on that song is like Bird Shit versus Dog Shit.
PhoenixDark
Banned
La Familia is one of the worst songs of the year.
edit: honestly a lot of these Timbo beats are pretty forgettable...
edit: honestly a lot of these Timbo beats are pretty forgettable...
Just heard BBC...
brehs...
Jay verse>Nas verse
That's not saying much. They were both pretty shitty.
TheKaeptain
Banned
WTF AM I LISTENING TO? Like these beats need someone like Rocky or 2 Chainz on them. Even Ye would rock these better talking a bunch of bullshit. Jay-Z has nothing to say anymore. Like he's so rich he can't even talk about being rich anymore...
PhoenixDark
Banned
Jay can't even come up with memorable ways to tell us how rich he is. I'm far from a 2 Chainz fan but dude knows how to throw together some witty/funny/memorable brag lines. Jay has next to nothing on this album.
that's probably what happened. and if it didn't then they should lie and say it did.
i guess when you're that rich and business savvy it kind of kills the imagination that comes from aspiring to be hella rich? i dunno, i've got nothing lol
TheKaeptain
Banned
BBC is horrible. This is like the worst song I have heard this year and I listen to K-Pop.
TheKaeptain
Banned
The beats are great. Just seems like another album that could have used some trimming.
Net_Wrecker
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Like maybe say 90% of Jay-Z's sleepwalking verses.
IrishNinja
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eash and the hovstan camp still trynna not make this one out to be another disappointment somehow
haha okay i was wylin out a bit but that's when the truth flows
i dunno...i mean i guess, but then again the albums ill defend dont usually require some weird caveat like that
like ye (who very recently made a better album for instance), i like dude but when someone tells me 808's has to be heard after a breakup or something...okay, maybe that'll happen but until then, shit's kinda messy
ill give it another rotation but i can kinda see this, yeah
man after Life is Good i was really hoping Jay would somehow feel challenged to step shit up, but parts of this weren't even phoned in, it's a voicemail
given the heights he's capable of i don't know how much lower that bar could be tho
Wanted to post this last night, but had no internetsstill relevant.
haha okay i was wylin out a bit but that's when the truth flows
i dunno...i mean i guess, but then again the albums ill defend dont usually require some weird caveat like that
like ye (who very recently made a better album for instance), i like dude but when someone tells me 808's has to be heard after a breakup or something...okay, maybe that'll happen but until then, shit's kinda messy
ill give it another rotation but i can kinda see this, yeah
man after Life is Good i was really hoping Jay would somehow feel challenged to step shit up, but parts of this weren't even phoned in, it's a voicemail
given the heights he's capable of i don't know how much lower that bar could be tho
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Fuckwithneuknowigotit was pretty good... Also should be the single then that Timberlake joint
IrishNinja
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sounds like that struggle of a hook kicks in around 0:26 so let's start there
i mean you're totally right
if we're talking about production and not flow, lyricism, actual effort, growth on the artist's part and say general enjoyment then im with you 100% kams
i was using Yeezus just as a parallel to how safe/effortless this is, not at all to say i want jay to do an experimental album - i mean he can't even make coke rap interesting for me at the moment so i damn sure don't wanna see what he sounds like outside of his realm of comfortability...i just wanted something i'd actually want to bump a few weeks from now, and this ain't it so far
Yeah old man, dad rap kind of like the daft punk drop off. Jay's second try if you count Kingdom Come and both times he fell flat on his face. Nas did it great on LiG but I hope he moves away from that for the next album he can definitely secure the production. The big risk is def jam fucking him over because it's his last album just like Aftermath keep sitting on 50.
IrishNinja
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yeah man lemme tell you how much of my musical library is determined by the opinions of my older brother and random ho's tho
100%. you would be surprised how many people forget to lock up the studio when they go for lunch or are done for the night. although this is changing with everything being recorded digital.
That sixteen year old is a phenom, finally listened to the OG Owl Pharaoh tooevery time i listen to Crown
shit sounds like the soundtrack to a battle of Archangels.
The Return of
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Oh, I thought you knew it was available digital! Great album. I could see CRS really digging it. Man that Billy Kid track so goood
Ephemeris
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At least you got a full track.
I am legit annoyed at how short Beach is Better is.
god damn, I'm playing it again.
Deceased.
And yeah what the fuck, I need to stop drunk posting. I do really like the album tho.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Also @Thabiz or anyone industry involved, is this accurate?
The picture that is missing is PR from a label leaking it themselves for some buzz. This had happened to some degree for awhile and after A$AP Rocky's numbers, I wouldn't be shocked if it were more common.
I remember in my DJ-ing days getting 20 copies of CDs in the mail for unreleased albums. Sony in particular was big on that.
The Return of
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I am still waiting for that EP he announced. Homie better not back out on it
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