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GAF-Hop |OT9/9/99| African Substitute Teachers Run NY

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Speaking of which, has there been any word on that Michelle Obama rap album? Can't find a date anywhere.
 

enzo_gt

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HRD is actually the one on here that introduced me to Purity Ring. Love their album and sound.

On a slightly related note, I listened to that CHVRCHES album and I'm in love. Synth pop has always had a place in my heart I just never knew what to call it really. I want more of this ish.
 
TBH the people on the card are pretty professional outside of Daylyt, and I don't think Daylyt would do anything that would affect anyone else's ability to perform. Like Smack said, 4 years of URL without violent incidents and those were primarily Math. I wouldn't expect it from this event.

Arsonal came up with a crude way to sell out the venue but it'll work I think. Simple math, sell 1000 tickets at $100, and you've got a 100k. I bet Surf, Calicoe and Holla all took pay cuts too.

UW seems to have stepped their shit up but they have no experience throwing an event in a venue this big and URL has shown audio is not something to take light. Audio is definitely the biggest worry here, and they better thoroughly test that shit. I don't want UW fucking up match of the forever.

That's kind of my point though. Smack's been doing this kind of stuff for years and even he can't get the audio stuff consistent enough. And it really doesn't matter how professional the rappers are. Goodz is typically very professional but it only takes one dude in the crowd to ruin some shit. I mean even Poison Pen had an event in a much smaller venue that had a dude seizure in the crowd and completely jacked up Marvwon's third round against Ness Lee. To me, Battle Rap really is a lot like most sports in that you have the best seat in the house when you're at home watching it. At least most of the time.

As a sidenote, I wish Ness Lee got more coverage because the dude puts together some of the most technical schemes I've seen in battles. He's supremely underrated.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Wii U already got a better first party line up than dreamcast ever had.
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That's kind of my point though. Smack's been doing this kind of stuff for years and even he can't get the audio stuff consistent enough. And it really doesn't matter how professional the rappers are. Goodz is typically very professional but it only takes one dude in the crowd to ruin some shit. I mean even Poison Pen had an event in a much smaller venue that had a dude seizure in the crowd and completely jacked up Marvwon's third round against Ness Lee. To me, Battle Rap really is a lot like most sports in that you have the best seat in the house when you're at home watching it. At least most of the time.

As a sidenote, I wish Ness Lee got more coverage because the dude puts together some of the most technical schemes I've seen in battles. He's supremely underrated.
I wouldn't really call Goodz professional when he's never seen without a bottle of Hennessey in hand. Still, the number of events that run smooth isn't enough to prescribe a phobia for me, and I'm sure these battles are much more awesome live in a crowd environment.

Eventually, I want to go to a KotD battle, or maybe if I'm lucky a URL battle when/if I get some friends who are into this shit. I just don't really care for most KotD cards overall.
 

enzo_gt

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@HollowDaDonLOM 10h
Once again, me and Lux battle can only be witnessed in person or on da PPV....no youtube at all...they got a tracker for bootlegs too

@HollowDaDonLOM 10h
@StephonXKelly @ARSONALDAREBEL its the same "genius" offer Lux camp came at Smack with...make it PPV only then raise da price when it drop

@HollowDaDonLOM 10h
"@Shad_Dolla: @HollowDaDonLOM they not even posting the battles on YouTube months later?" From wut I heard in da meetings, NO

@HollowDaDonLOM 10h
I'm not making a dime off da PPv so why would I care...look at @iAmLoadedLux TL...you see how many times he tweeted that PPV link

Apparently, according to Hollow on twitter, part of Lux' "plan" is never releasing the Lux vs. Hollow battle on YT. PPV only. Even Hollow is saying that's on some sucka shit and it should be released to YT maybe after a month. He says Lux proposed it to URL too and they said f that. Way to stifle your own exposure, with what could be the best move in your career and cement yourself moving into music, all for a temporary cheque.

What gets me the most is Lux keeps saying he's doing this shit for the culture, but he's only looking out for his own rent money. That's the worst part of it all, Lux keeps coming up with all these schemes to make himself more money, while the rest of the game has been fucked up because there's no consistent source of money there and rappers are like "if Mook can spit some bullshit and get $20k, why am I being underpaid?".
 

Esch

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Apparently, according to Hollow on twitter, part of Lux' "plan" is never releasing the Lux vs. Hollow battle on YT. PPV only. Even Hollow is saying that's on some sucka shit and it should be released to YT maybe after a month. He says Lux proposed it to URL too and they said f that. Way to stifle your own exposure, with what could be the best move in your career and cement yourself moving into music, all for a temporary cheque.

What gets me the most is Lux keeps saying he's doing this shit for the culture, but he's only looking out for his own rent money. That's the worst part of it all, Lux keeps coming up with all these schemes to make himself more money, while the rest of the game has been fucked up because there's no consistent source of money there and rappers are like "if Mook can spit some bullshit and get $20k, why am I being underpaid?".
What a bunch of bullshit. Is this battle filmed already? I hope Hollow washes this asshole.

edit: that came out wrong
 

enzo_gt

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What a bunch of bullshit. Is this battle filmed already? I hope Hollow washes this asshole.
Nope. Jan 26th.

No wonder URL passed on his nonsense; "bootleg tracker" lmao wtf.

Here is Lux trying to word "pay me" like he's doing something for the culture.

And here is Beasley exposing Lux' nonsense. Beasley is no idiot, he's an actual businessman who has worked as an A&R in the music industry for years for Geffen, etc. He knows people won't pay $30 for MyFirstStream, without any of the production value or editing, on top of Lux wanting a percentage of everything without putting anything in..
 

enzo_gt

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Livestream or sumtn, 1% of that
600 000 or sumtn, at like $20
At 10% man, that's like 6 million!
I mean, THE NUMBERS ARE THERE

- Loaded Lux

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Clips even suggested that Lux asked for more, probably over $100k "what he asked for looked like a run on sentence." Someone's gonna pay you more than your average MC for a show if you spit for 9 minutes? After coming off a battle where you choked in your first round too?

Bonus: Hollow talking about why the game is fucked up right now. You can tell Hollow does it for the love. Dude turned down cheques for half a year because of Lux' BS, and he's just spending that time writing because even after Lux dude is not stopping what he's doing and will go back to those smaller cheques.
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742468

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But really tell me its not about even in quality with the LP source material.....

Also I feel for Lux, he had the equivalent of a hot single for a rap battler, Give him that work became a part of the lexicon, and he is still seeing about 60-80 G's at best (which is a lot but not really for a successful rapper) and his moment in the son is already passing him by.

Idk what I would do in that situation, Maybe ask behind the scenes for a percentage of the door going forward on top of a reasonably larger check? idk his whole field isn't set up to make money. its nice to say you do it for the culture but Lux is a 30 something year old. That culture shit doesn't sound so poetic when you got bills to pay.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
If I were Lux I would've put out a goddamn album. A real one, not a mixtape. You telling me nobody wanted to sign the guy? You telling me he doesn't know he's on borrowed time?
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
If I were Lux I would've put out a goddamn album. A real one, not a mixtape. You telling me nobody wanted to sign the guy? You telling me he doesn't know he's on borrowed time?

Yeah but who is trying to pay to listen Lux make "Songs"? Maybe he could get a good paying job as a ghostwriter for a more commercial artist. Especially if said artist was afraid he would have to defend himself on tape. but even then I can't see him making much more than he makes now unless he gets a sweetheart deal.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah but who is trying to pay to listen Lux make "Songs"? Maybe he could get a good paying job as a ghostwriter for a more commercial artist. Especially if said artist was afraid he would have to defend himself on tape. but even then I can't see him making much more than he makes now unless he gets a sweetheart deal.

All you need to be commercial is a hook. He gave himself the hook. He just isn't capitalizing on it. Probably too late.
 

enzo_gt

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All you need to be commercial is a hook. He gave himself the hook. He just isn't capitalizing on it. Probably too late.
I just don't think he made the impact he should have initially. His mixtape came out a full year after he destroyed Calicoe. Yeah in that time he was able to hook up with a bunch of artists and network but it hurt his momentum. And how many of those dudes will remember Lux in 3 years?

Not that I think anyone reasonably expects Lux to have mainstream success, but I don't even see why a label would scout him for a smaller publishing deal or anything. His magnum opus had a slow burn of 3 million views over a year, I don't really think that's on the level of other viral hip-hop sensations really, or even enough to warrant a frenzy of attempts to sign him. I type in "get this work" in my YT search and get Iggy Azalea as the top hit. His appeal is still restricted to this insular group of hip hop heads.

He would be best to cultivate a fanbase like Mac Miller did and go independent. Why not when he has earned the respect of his peers and he wouldn't have trouble trying to get features and probably wouldn't get charged crazy either? I don't think it's over for Lux, because if he knocks it out of the park again, who knows how high his stock will rise, but I also think that could stifle his progress if Hollow cooks him or even puts a dent in his armor. I don't know how he can exceed that performance really, especially against Hollow's comedy and ability to throw Lux' words back at him in freestyles. If he slips, Hollow will end him.

It's just, at what point should he and can he let the battle thing go and produce something that everyone can see and appreciate musically. I mean I fucks with this battle shit and Lux heavy and I still haven't downloaded that tape, despite liking everything I've heard. Eyes are on, but he hasn't been able to move those eyes towards his next step. Drake and Shaq are hosting the High Stakes event, decidedly bringing the most exposure thus far to this, and you decide to keep it behind a PPV? This is the opportunity to turn 3 million into 15 million and bring in more consistent cheques in the future but he can't see past his nose. He's trying to make the most out of this one opportunity as opposed to what other opportunities it could create in the future.
 

Esch

Banned
All you need to be commercial is a hook. He gave himself the hook. He just isn't capitalizing on it. Probably too late.

Cmon brah, you need more than that. You need a distinctive sound, the ability to write the right kind of songs, a certain voice, and a look. Loaded Lux looks like an xbox 360 Redguard preset in Oblivion character creator.

edit: now that ive watched more battle rap, think Calicoe vs. Lux is not really that great. It's a bodybag, but it doesn't really have that full unadulterated sonning feel until round 3. Round 2 is mostly just calicoe starting to come really wack and Lux building up steam... But it's with some pretty standard bars.
 

Esch

Banned
Not that long till the new ot guys. Feels like this one is still new! Who's gonna do it?

GAF-Hop |OTX| The Dynasty: GAF La Familia
 
Goodz walking around with that Hennessey bottle is an image gimmick. And it's certainly better than all these dudes putting the same tired ass slogan bars in every battle.

Lux knows he won't move a a decent amount of units with just music. Battle fans are notoriously horrible about supporting battlers music and the rest of the world would still have to see more from him before purchasing. If Lux was really interested in moving to the music side, then he'd have to effectively quit battling and focus all his energy on music and he'd still have to put the whole package together. He feels like working these little hustles through his battling would be more lucrative and in theory they could be since Battle fans will spend money on events.

Consider who has really done well moving from battling to music? Jin and Dumbfoundead (who goes by the name Parker now) was able to make a living off of music but both have a specific built-in market in their cultural background. In Jin's case he had to straight up go to China to get good money. Soul Khan may or may not be doing okay with Brown Bag All Stars and they actually put out solid well rounded music.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I just don't think he made the impact he should have initially. His mixtape came out a full year after he destroyed Calicoe. Yeah in that time he was able to hook up with a bunch of artists and network but it hurt his momentum. And how many of those dudes will remember Lux in 3 years?

Not that I think anyone reasonably expects Lux to have mainstream success, but I don't even see why a label would scout him for a smaller publishing deal or anything. His magnum opus had a slow burn of 3 million views over a year, I don't really think that's on the level of other viral hip-hop sensations really, or even enough to warrant a frenzy of attempts to sign him. I type in "get this work" in my YT search and get Iggy Azalea as the top hit. His appeal is still restricted to this insular group of hip hop heads.

He would be best to cultivate a fanbase like Mac Miller did and go independent. Why not when he has earned the respect of his peers and he wouldn't have trouble trying to get features and probably wouldn't get charged crazy either? I don't think it's over for Lux, because if he knocks it out of the park again, who knows how high his stock will rise, but I also think that could stifle his progress if Hollow cooks him or even puts a dent in his armor. I don't know how he can exceed that performance really, especially against Hollow's comedy and ability to throw Lux' words back at him in freestyles. If he slips, Hollow will end him.

It's just, at what point should he and can he let the battle thing go and produce something that everyone can see and appreciate musically. I mean I fucks with this battle shit and Lux heavy and I still haven't downloaded that tape, despite liking everything I've heard. Eyes are on, but he hasn't been able to move those eyes towards his next step. Drake and Shaq are hosting the High Stakes event, decidedly bringing the most exposure thus far to this, and you decide to keep it behind a PPV? This is the opportunity to turn 3 million into 15 million and bring in more consistent cheques in the future but he can't see past his nose. He's trying to make the most out of this one opportunity as opposed to what other opportunities it could create in the future.

This makes sense.

Cmon brah, you need more than that. You need a distinctive sound, the ability to write the right kind of songs, a certain voice, and a look. Loaded Lux looks like an xbox 360 Redguard preset in Oblivion character creator.

edit: now that ive watched more battle rap, think Calicoe vs. Lux is not really that great. It's a bodybag, but it doesn't really have that full unadulterated sonning feel until round 3. Round 2 is mostly just calicoe starting to come really wack and Lux building up steam... But it's with some pretty standard bars.

This is...odd. Why are we judging rappers by their physical appearances? Besides, if anything, he should've used the suit thing as his signature. Now he looka lika everybody else. That doesn't help
 

Esch

Banned
This is...odd. Why are we judging rappers by their physical appearances? Besides, if anything, he should've used the suit thing as his signature. Now he looka lika everybody else. That doesn't help
Everyone judges everyone by their physical appearances. It's hard for an ugly dude to blow up/be commercially relevant in 2013. This is the post-metro era.

TBH, i kinda prefer lux outside of the calicoe battle. his normal style is more interesting. He came hard with the gimmicks for that one, but that has limited legs imo.
who lost out last time?

heh
 
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