Well I am black and involved in the culture and its still corny as fuck.
I do like Lamborghini Angels though.
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Well I am black and involved in the culture and its still corny as fuck.
I do like Lamborghini Angels though.
PhoenixDark
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Shit is amazing. Can't wait for CDQ
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Bitch Bad is what I feel is the opposite that I said about Lupe earlier. To me, anytime I listen to lupe, I feel like he puts his message and getting his point across above all else. Most artist these days are trying to put their message out there, but at the same time they are doing it in ways so a mainstream listener can vibe to it and it's actually a legit good song. Ab-Soul and Killer Mike are the first ones that come to mind.
If you look at these artist, their flow is just about as good as any other rapper who isn't talking about political things. Well, maybe not Ab-Soul, but you can definitely see that Ab-Soul tries to get his massage across while making the song entertaining for the listening.
That's just how I feel about a lot of Lupe's songs. I don't feel this way about any of Lupe new songs outside of Bitch Bad, but truthfully, if I listen to that Lamborghani Angels and go back to that old stuff. I think he had a really shitty ass flow in the past.
Edit: I feel like moooose basically said what i was trying to say.
If you look at these artist, their flow is just about as good as any other rapper who isn't talking about political things. Well, maybe not Ab-Soul, but you can definitely see that Ab-Soul tries to get his massage across while making the song entertaining for the listening.
That's just how I feel about a lot of Lupe's songs. I don't feel this way about any of Lupe new songs outside of Bitch Bad, but truthfully, if I listen to that Lamborghani Angels and go back to that old stuff. I think he had a really shitty ass flow in the past.
Edit: I feel like moooose basically said what i was trying to say.
Why would Bitch Bad draw from raw emotion? That's not really Lupe's thing. He's a detached story teller who concerns his music with making a point.
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I made a track the other day with this chick I met (she makes beats). So it's getting good responses and comments on soundcloud and shit, and I'm all happy about working with her some more. Then she posts some birther shit on facebook today talking about how Obama is a fraud and someone needs to check his social security number.
I think I got somehow reverse Lupe'd.
edit: on-topic, Dead Prez's Hip-Hop is still my #1 "song with a message that's still bumps" of all time.
I think I got somehow reverse Lupe'd.
edit: on-topic, Dead Prez's Hip-Hop is still my #1 "song with a message that's still bumps" of all time.
PhoenixDark
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Two very very talented dudes for a variety of reasons. I love these guys. Q in particular. His lyricism appears like nothing at first but the words he picks, his ability to make songs, as well as his flow and especially charisma, and ability to humbly tell stories... he's a very special guy. You can tell that even if he makes a song like Hands on the Wheel, he's making it because he really wants to. Every song he makes is because he is hungry and has something to say. That's not something you can say about many rappers. Lupe, for instance, seems like he was stretching to find subject matter. He seems so forced.
Because his stories invoke no emotion because he's completely detached. How can I feel something about something he feels nothing about? And he has to feel something to make the song, but nothing comes across in the song. Just a bunch of words and a lesson that no one will learn from.
Professor Beef
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fucking dying here lmao
its a fair critique...
Lupe's always been more concerned with telling you his message (actually he beats you over the head with it) rather than making you feel his message.
Nas sorta has the same problem
PhoenixDark
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I would have been all over Bad Bitch if I was 16 and on that backpack tip still. Ya boy PD used to act like someone listening to Ja Rule in my presence was equal to aborting a baby and throwing it in my face. Now...meh. Do I like the way "bitch" is thrown around? Hell naw. But I couldn't care less about Lupe preaching to me about it.
That's why guys like 2pac and Nas did that shit better. They were flawed individuals full of contradictions, which makes them interesting. I could tolerate them preaching overall because they could do it in an intelligent way that could bump in my mom's Dodge Caravan, nahmean. Lupe? This ninja couldn't have fun at Disney Land - he'd be walking behind you trying to fuck up your time by reminding you what Walt Disney thought about Jews. Ninja I ain't trying to hear that shit, fuckouttahere
That's why guys like 2pac and Nas did that shit better. They were flawed individuals full of contradictions, which makes them interesting. I could tolerate them preaching overall because they could do it in an intelligent way that could bump in my mom's Dodge Caravan, nahmean. Lupe? This ninja couldn't have fun at Disney Land - he'd be walking behind you trying to fuck up your time by reminding you what Walt Disney thought about Jews. Ninja I ain't trying to hear that shit, fuckouttahere
Hahaha.
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my girl Orly Taitz got beats for days though
PhoenixDark
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Aite I don't want any beef tonight. Edited
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I like Talib and Kendrick's voices. I guess I could see how people wouldn't like Kendrick
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Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
So much dopeness they all deserve a bump
spindashing
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WHAT THE FUCK SPIN?!?!
See, that's the thing, I fucking love MF DOOM. MF goes off beat on purpose and then goes back on so it works. I feel like Talib just doesn't give a fuck throughout his entire verse. I dunno.
Some Mer Fers don't like how Sally walk
I'll tell y'all fools it's hella cool how ladies from Cali talk
Never let her interfere with the Yeti ghetto slang
Nicknames off nipple and tip of nipples, metal fang
Known amongst hoes for the bang-bang
Known amongst foes for flow without no talking orangutangs
Only gin and Tang
Guzzled out a rusty tin can
Me and this mic is like yin and yang
Clang! Crime don't pay, listen, youth
/Irish
I'm black. And this song explains it well. Anyone from the hood could relate.
You either get the emotion from the song -- the situation Lupe's illustrating -- or you don't. He doesn't trick or charm you into feeling something you don't or won't care about. It can be endearing when you actually feel that the rapper is opening up from within to provide the inspiration of the song and that you hear as much on the track, but that's not necessarily what an emcee must strive for.
And I would disagree that Lupe himself doesn't feel as much about his message just because he doesn't get into his emotions on the track. The kind of craftsmanship he puts into his lyrics and how they should be digested shows he does respect his message a very great deal.
Granted, if you don't agree with his world view/subject matter, and his flow ain't doing it for you, there ain't much to fall back on. Contrast that to TDE which has some fun ass high energy shit to sub in for any unfavorable semi-conscious joints.
I feel like you're right in that Lupe is way too preachy and negative about his messages. If only he could be more positive and make more songs like All Black Everything. That song is a fucking masterpiece, it brought a tear to my eye.
Bitch Bad is a decent song I probably won't come back to often. Lupe drops everything heavy handed, and yeah he is missing that charm or that hook he had on F&L and The Cool more importantly. Beat kind of sucks ass, at points theres a clear disconnect from the instrumental and him and in that time you just contemplate whether he's going to get back to rhyming or he's just gonna stay on this tip for a bit. Maybe this is just cause the content doesn't resonate with me either.
It is more lyrically sound than some of the other garbage he's been putting out recently, so I'm down for that.
EDIT: That video was good, not sure if I'd rank it high all year though.
It is more lyrically sound than some of the other garbage he's been putting out recently, so I'm down for that.
PD stay winning. This sums it up pretty well.
EDIT: That video was good, not sure if I'd rank it high all year though.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Not beef just trying to be fair to everyone
Anyone that has female friends that call themselves and/or their friends "bitches" can relate.
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+1, his kinda reckless style only works for me when mighty mos is trading bars & such. past his first LP, it's grating - his choice of content & production doesnt help though (dude should be worshiping hi-tek)
haha...and that's one of his better ones
aw man, totally different - that feels way more purposeful than talib's almost inability to stay on beat.
...CRS said it better
Indeed it is.
Quit biting the Black Album, Lupe.
Yeah, I don't think his label will let that shit fly or this is even real.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Tell Lupe i said...
cause I consider that black square a flash error.
spindashing
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Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
the real question is when questioned about this cover does he then say he designed it himself....
You're better than that, Toku. That's something I'd expect from...
...there it is.
Not enough DS systems on that cover.
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