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GAF-Hop |OTX| Long Live the Watcher
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True. I'd rather go alone than drag people who are gonna complain the whole time. It might take a little effort but you can still have plenty of fun since everyone around you actually wants to be there.
So that Oxymoron show a couple nights ago... shit was hot brehs. We got there a little late so we missed Audio Push and Vince Staples, but Isaiah Rashad was a good opener. The guys I was with were fine just hanging in the back and smoking blunts, so I decided like halfway through Rashad's set to ditch 'em and get as far up as I could. Best decision. By the time Q came out, I had followed pushing this huge offensive linemen ass dude all the way up to the third row!! Place was fucking packed, probably the best crowd of any show I've been to. Shit was so hype for Q like omg... Most hype songs were Break the Bank, mAAd City (Lol Q just stood there as the crowd went batshit crazy), Man of the Year, Druggys Wit Hoes, This What They Want, etc... really great setlist IMO, every song was something I was hoping for. Q never took a break and just played out the whole show, I couldn't believe it. Encore was Oxymoron!! (I just stopped selling crack today!!!) Man of the Year though... that is the craziest things have ever gotten at a show I've been too. Overall he gave one hell of a performance. And the DJ before he came out played the most hype playlist, all songs that I love. I was gonna leave to get a beer or something but crowd was still really into the DJ and I was so close I just rode out the whole show. My friends were pissed I ditched 'em and I guess were trying to get a hold of me the whole show but fuck it, you're at a concert, free for all to get best positioning as possible IMO, unless you're with your girl. Chugged a tall boy on the way and smoked 4 blunts anyways so I was still super toasty the whole show. All in all great experience, and was so positive on it that I bought the Oxymoron shirt which looks really nice. That's how I support my artists, I might not buy your music, but if you come to my town and put on a live show at a reasonable price, hell yeah imma support.
FIGG SIIIIIIIIDEEEE
FIGG SIIIIIIIIDEEEE
Haha. Did he actually rap all his lyrics or did he skip a bunch like I've seen in videos of his performances?
Byakuya769
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... Budden was right.
PhoenixDark
Banned
First Lupe, then Drake, now Budden?You're gonna be a hell of a defense attorney.
Byakuya769
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I don't get what you mean...
Syph Medwes
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Big Ghost's Illmatic review is up.
Good stuff. Gave my fav song the lowest rating though shieet gotta disagree on that one. (Represent)
edit: Also, best line from Jay Elec's Control verse?
"Put your trust in the lord but tether your Chevy Nova" always stuck with me.
Good stuff. Gave my fav song the lowest rating though shieet gotta disagree on that one. (Represent)
edit: Also, best line from Jay Elec's Control verse?
"Put your trust in the lord but tether your Chevy Nova" always stuck with me.
The Artful Dodger
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I was just listening to Trillmatic again.
I'd rather just have A$AP Nast drop an album instead of an A$AP Mob album.
I'd rather just have A$AP Nast drop an album instead of an A$AP Mob album.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Byakuya769
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Haha. Name drop in obscure interviews but not in songs, breh.
MorisUkunRasik
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Jay doesn't even own any part of The Nets anymore...
jesus christ lmfao
Well, at least he doesn't sound as butthurt as he did vs. Kendrick.
CountBlack
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The Raptors? I know
So emotional after only a couple bars
Pickles the Firecat
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Drake knows damn well he enjoys himself some fondue
We talking cheese or chocolate fondue bruh. I only like the former.
Pickles the Firecat
Banned
Chocolate is superior without question, but if someone is making cheese fondue and invites me over it's not like I'm going to turn it down. And borderline fondue-ish stuff like queso flameado? Man. Man.
Either way I can guarantee Drake is all about fondue. He probably has a fondue/found you rhyme in his book somewhere that he's frantically scratching out right now. Drake probably cops gift cards to the Melting Pot.
Syph Medwes
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We all know that's his next investment
As for his next "diss" track
NipplesAndToes23
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Just got on to some Language Arts Crew. The brothers are dope!
the words of someone that needs to try cheddar and guinness fondue
Do it brehs. I promise you won't regret it.
The Artful Dodger
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hahaha, I have a friend on FB, and 90% of his posts are praising Drake. I really want to smack the dude.
Same. I don't even understand Drake stannery. I mean.. I understand if you like the dude, but stannery? Nah.. nah.
The Artful Dodger
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I can understand stannery for almost everyone else but Drake...him and Shyne.
Because those are the most popular in the states. Bagna cauda is pretty good though.
MorisUkunRasik
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Shabu Shabu is pretty good.
PhoenixDark
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Marlon Waynans discusses Jay v Nas
Pretty funny video but it made a point I can't believe I never thought of: in many ways Jay v Nas was like getting a glimpse at Rakim v Big Daddy Kane. Rakim being Nas, and BDK being Jay. Very similar in terms of rapping styles: Rakim tended to focus on a slower, more complex multisyllabic pattern whereas BDK had a faster, more versatile flow that bended back and forth between various styles.
Pretty funny video but it made a point I can't believe I never thought of: in many ways Jay v Nas was like getting a glimpse at Rakim v Big Daddy Kane. Rakim being Nas, and BDK being Jay. Very similar in terms of rapping styles: Rakim tended to focus on a slower, more complex multisyllabic pattern whereas BDK had a faster, more versatile flow that bended back and forth between various styles.
I feel like I wanna try it but it seems kinda bland. Boiled meat? In water?
I sleep pretty heavy on hotpots and the like. Maybe I should give them a try. I always flip past them on asian menus and cop other shit.
I don't think I've ever seen this stance
PhoenixDark
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Trillmatic is dope...but lord does the beat and Meth's verse completely overshadow Nast.
who produced that? Call Nas.
who produced that? Call Nas.
MorisUkunRasik
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It's best to go to places dedicated only to hotpot stuff. They usually have different stuff to flavor the pot and make it more broth-y cause like you suspect just boiling water + meat is pretty bland, but even in that case you get dipping sauces to flavor the meat after you boil.
Never been blown away by it but it's pretty good.
edit: actually been told most japanese places just do boiling water but Chinese places use broth.
Tokubetsu
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PhoenixDark
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Who The Hell Am I: My Frustrating 20-Year Love/Hate Relationship With Nasir Jones
Great article that really captures some of the the frustrations of Nas.
While many look at some of Nas' worse albums of the 90s (half of I Am, and Nastradamus) as disappointing failures that "suck" to me it's more complex. Nas...is rapping pretty damn well on both albums. I Am starts out with one of his most lyrically stunning songs, NY State of Mind II. Multiple tracks feature amazing lyrics and flows. Same applies to Nastradamus which has Come Get Me, Project Window, and Life We Chose. Yet the projects are extremely uneven due to Nas' search for mainstream appeal.
I'm reminded of Questlove's book where he notes the night he saw Nas/Illmatic lose every away to Biggie/Ready to Die at the Source Awards, and how uncomfortable Nas looked. He said Black Thought witnessed it too, and said Nas would never be the same. He has tried to replicate Biggie's rap & bullshit approach to mainstream tracks, and they almost never work. He got it right the first time, with If I Ruled The World. But it's been about a 70% miss rate since then (although I like You Won't See Me Tonight). He never mastered the ability to dumb down for radio, like Biggie or Jay. Biggie's singles feature slower flows and simpler rhymes, but they're still good tracks. He understood that he couldn't do Big Poppa with the same strategy as he did Machine Gun Funk, for instance. Nas never got that.
Even more frustrating is the beat selection. I could forgive some bad mainstream songs if they had dope beats and nice hooks. Even that shit isn't done right on Nas albums.
Ultimately the frustration is listening to someone who is clearly better than his peers on nearly every level, but is limited due to his surroundings. It's like watching a great running back behind a shitty offensive line in football. You know he's better than his stats but you sound like a fanboy when you make the argument.
Great article that really captures some of the the frustrations of Nas.
While many look at some of Nas' worse albums of the 90s (half of I Am, and Nastradamus) as disappointing failures that "suck" to me it's more complex. Nas...is rapping pretty damn well on both albums. I Am starts out with one of his most lyrically stunning songs, NY State of Mind II. Multiple tracks feature amazing lyrics and flows. Same applies to Nastradamus which has Come Get Me, Project Window, and Life We Chose. Yet the projects are extremely uneven due to Nas' search for mainstream appeal.
I'm reminded of Questlove's book where he notes the night he saw Nas/Illmatic lose every away to Biggie/Ready to Die at the Source Awards, and how uncomfortable Nas looked. He said Black Thought witnessed it too, and said Nas would never be the same. He has tried to replicate Biggie's rap & bullshit approach to mainstream tracks, and they almost never work. He got it right the first time, with If I Ruled The World. But it's been about a 70% miss rate since then (although I like You Won't See Me Tonight). He never mastered the ability to dumb down for radio, like Biggie or Jay. Biggie's singles feature slower flows and simpler rhymes, but they're still good tracks. He understood that he couldn't do Big Poppa with the same strategy as he did Machine Gun Funk, for instance. Nas never got that.
Even more frustrating is the beat selection. I could forgive some bad mainstream songs if they had dope beats and nice hooks. Even that shit isn't done right on Nas albums.
Ultimately the frustration is listening to someone who is clearly better than his peers on nearly every level, but is limited due to his surroundings. It's like watching a great running back behind a shitty offensive line in football. You know he's better than his stats but you sound like a fanboy when you make the argument.
Definitely.
Nas is still one of those rappers that can give me chills through what he writes. I honestly can't say that about many other active artists today. His verse on Hip Hop really cemented that in my head as he reflected on his legacy and sort of accepted the fate of his career, so to speak.
PhoenixDark
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I honestly can't think of one rapper from his era who is rapping as well as him today. Prodigy sometimes sounds like he forgot how to rap, and Hov is like someone who switched their jump shot up and lost 30% of their accuracy. Em...no explanation needed, listen to MMLP2 (although I admit Rap God has grown on me, a ton). Ghostface often sounds uninspired.
And this makes it even more frustrating because you just know he could release something really fucking dope...if he had the right production. For instance, Nasty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo97R0ib1CE
That's a pretty amazing song, lyrically, but the beat is just weak. Weak drums, weak scratching, it just doesn't hit you as hard as the rapping. If you pair him up with T-Minus, Justice League, ALCHEMIST, Just Blaze, whoever...you will get an AOTY contender.
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