IrishNinja
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Ya'll want me to listen to this new Pharoahe Monch and post impressions?
yes please, havent fucked with Monch in a minute but if this goes well i'm down
This page is my favorite with the SZA pics up top.
also this
Ya'll want me to listen to this new Pharoahe Monch and post impressions?
This page is my favorite with the SZA pics up top.
we trolling or doing real talk here
I just heard Holy Grail on the radio. Is anyone here going to deny that Jay's verses were trash, or that you could replace him with any mainstream rapper and still get a hit due to the hook? So yes, with the right track Nas could make a hit.
Now do I think he'll get the "right track" from Timbo, or the right hooks? No.
That's my point though. Can Nas make a hit? The answer is yes, if he gets the right hook and beat. If I Ruled The World would have been a hit for anyone who rapped on it, and the same applies to Holy Grail.
The difference is that Hov verses are pretty much guaranteed to be trash, but he's also guaranteed to get the right tracks and the right hooks.
The difference is that Hov verses are pretty much guaranteed to be trash, but he's also guaranteed to get the right tracks and the right hooks.
How is that denial? Do you know how the music industry works? More than half of mainstream pop (rap and otherwise) hits have pre-written hooks before the rapper or singer even touches it. What do you think Skylar Grey, NeYo, Pharrell, etc do all day?
The reason Nas hasn't had mainstream success obviously has to do with his horrible ear for beats and inability to cater to radio; he doesn't "get" radio, never has and never will. I have never denied it. That being said, if he got his hands on the right beat and hook of course he could have a hit. Here's the problem: it's unlikely he'll even get to that stage, because of his ear. But to uniformly say there's no way for him to have a hit is just troll shit, smh.
Atlantic had hits waiting for Lupe during his album making process, all he had to do is fill in the verses. Nas has never done that, and I don't get the impression he wants to.
I also think Hov has a much wider range of "right track/hook" that'll work for him.
Damn, I can't wait to change my avatar in a few days
Like I said dude, you just don't get it period. Some artists have the fanbase and lane to do some things and work in others, some don't. If I gave Aphex Twin a song written and and even recorded by Skrillex, it wouldn't blow up because that's how life is No 'old rapper' (and thats how people think of Nas) is gonna get any burn after having no real hits since I Can. He might get some Urban/RnB play, but that's just the bitter truth of it. It's just stunning to watch you keep thinking that what people like Ne-Yo etc do is easy to even do once, let alone replicate many times.
Honestly? I feel a little bad watching you write fanfiction about things that you think could or would or should happen for Nas, because it's a little sad that you haven't come to terms with where he is in the music industry: He's an incredible rapper who has tried to make a transition into pop territory time and time and time again and failed. He just can't do it. And if he couldn't do it in an era where people were actually trying to hear rap on the mainstream airwaves, you think it's got a chance of happening out of the blue why? Because he copped some 'hot' producers? Because he might have a song with Justin Timberlake? Because.... Illmatic 20th anniversary? Because...? There's just no basis for your line of thought. Like I said, who's checking for Nas besides core hip hop fans (most of whom are old cheap bastards that hate the radio and clubs)?
Yes or no to everyone in the thread: if Nas (or just about any mainstream rapper) released Empire State Of Mind, would it have been a hit? Simple question.
Are you gonna change it to that lame Homer one again?
Damn, I can't wait to change my avatar in a few days
it's will smith in naruto gear, cmon that's hilarious
but only nas could bring us oochie wallie wallie
No skin off my back, just think its funny you think Dark Souls can do Skyrim numbers no matter how it's dressed up.
That comic book is dope. I'd cop the 2nd volume because of all the 80s rap ive been listening to recently.
Cmon tell me thats not a good analogy thoI'm actually having more fun with DS2 than I did DS1 (but I also think DS2 is easier, so..)
you been listening to any Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff by any chance? haha
why-don't-he-love-me-no-jutsu
Cmon tell me thats not a good analogy tho
I was talking to PD sorry lolHoly shit man, I just compared DS1 and DS2 to his first two albums lmao, that's all I did
Yes or no to everyone in the thread: if Nas (or just about any mainstream rapper) released Empire State Of Mind, would it have been a hit? Simple question.
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finally got around to reading this, anyone else given it a go? so much shit from before my time, shit was mad informative - writer's a good dude, he says volume 2 is gonna go up to about '85 or so, so there should be more familiar names by then, i honestly can't wait cause this last one was so thorough. its like $17 on amazon too.
No, it's not simple. Certain styles of emceeing don't translate well to pop based on the era. Why do you think Jay's flow has changed so much over the years? Not just because he started falling off, but also to fit in with different and increasingly more bombastic styles of production and different artists as well. Nas is largely the same as he was in the mid 90's-early 00s in terms of delivery on a lot of stuff. He doesn't really have the same gift of 'adapting' to records to make them work. Nobody gives a SHIT about dope verses when it comes to radio play. They just want something that sounds good.It's simple: if you give Nas a dope beat that he can actually rap over and hit verse, he can make a hit. His problem is that he's not going to pick those beats. I wonder how much dope shit he passed up to pick You Won't See Me Tonight, You Owe Me, etc. Outside of Drake tracks it's pretty easy to look at the rap songs that chart and it's the hook that makes it work for white audiences that don't really fuck with rap.
Every time you reference work that old you only add to my point. What you're predicting essentially is a commercial 'comeback', that has a horse's ass chance of happening. Even with the right production and features. And yeah, give Nas ESoM and it's a rap radio hit with minor play bruh, just like everyone else is saying.His sell out moments went double platinum (IWW, I Am), let's be real.
No skin off my back, just think its funny you think Dark Souls can do Skyrim numbers no matter how it's dressed up.