Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
how is raekwon annoying? I've never heard anyone say that about him in a rap thread before?
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how is raekwon annoying? I've never heard anyone say that about him in a rap thread before?
I remember a lot of people complaining about him around the internet when the argument between him and RZA was going on re: the new album. I can see it tbh, especially since it feels like he's always been a little insecure that his classic was not achieved on his own; the RZA clearly themed a lot of it and ghost rapped a lot of it.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
wait rza ghost rapped obfcl? I never heard that before. Though I wouldn't be surprised I think ghost rapping happens all the damn time and people just don't realize it.
On the low I've always felt Rae was a top 5 MC when he was in his prime, he just didn't have the gravitas and personality to get from out of the shadow of being in the WU like Ghost did.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
when Obfcl came out he was definitely top 5. I would even argue he was a better rapper than Jay at that time.
Big
Nas
Rae
Pac (maybe prodigy)
Jay
His guest verses on Ironman also helped. But by 2000-2001 he had fallen off not because he was rapping bad he just had put out bad albums
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
nah man thats that hindsight effect. Ghost was nice but Ghost wasn't held in such high esteem when obfcl came out. Rae was the rapper everyone was expecting great things from.
PhoenixDark
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Jay-Z wasn't in anyone's top five in 1995-1996, let's be real. Ask an old head and they'll tell you that Biggie, Method Man, Nas, Rae, and Prodigy were the best. I know Prodigy gets credit for popularizing dun language but Rae was doing it a couple years before The Infamous came out. That being said I'm not sure anyone was better than Prodigy from late 1995 to 1996 (The Infamous+Hell on Earth). Nas was a better rapper technically, but verse for verse in 1995-1996? Nah...
Cappadonna wasn't joking on Wu Forever when he said half of NY was sounded like Raekwon. All this being said, personally I think Ghostface stole the show on Cuban Linx. But interestingly Rae stole the show on Ironman.
Cappadonna wasn't joking on Wu Forever when he said half of NY was sounded like Raekwon. All this being said, personally I think Ghostface stole the show on Cuban Linx. But interestingly Rae stole the show on Ironman.
for what it's worth Nas has said that he bit Rae's style hard for It Was Written.
Rae was your favorite rapper's favorite rapper for a minute there.
and yeah OB4CL was a moment in time that will never repeat. classic, all that can be said. saying ghost was better than rae on it misses the point. additionally it was earlier and better than iron man by a not insignificant margin
and no need to be cautious about saying Rae was better than Jigga at that time, it really goes without saying.
Rae was your favorite rapper's favorite rapper for a minute there.
and yeah OB4CL was a moment in time that will never repeat. classic, all that can be said. saying ghost was better than rae on it misses the point. additionally it was earlier and better than iron man by a not insignificant margin
and no need to be cautious about saying Rae was better than Jigga at that time, it really goes without saying.
Lol no I mean Ghostface rapped a lot of it; OB4CL's quality certainly came in part from his contributions. And of course, RZA set the tone with his music.
spindashing
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Ghost was definitely my favorite parts of OB4CL.
Call me dough snatcher, just the brother for the rapture.
I handglide, holding on strong, hard to capture.
Extravagant, RZA bake the track and it's militant.
Then I react, like a convict, and start killing shit.
It's manifested, the Gods work like appliances.
Dealing in my cypher I revolve around sciences.
Still gets me feeling
in 2014 brehs
Call me dough snatcher, just the brother for the rapture.
I handglide, holding on strong, hard to capture.
Extravagant, RZA bake the track and it's militant.
Then I react, like a convict, and start killing shit.
It's manifested, the Gods work like appliances.
Dealing in my cypher I revolve around sciences.
Still gets me feeling
I just changed mine too, had the GOAT for so long I almost miss it
youre not my real dad
The Artful Dodger
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Raekwon needs to realize Wu brings out the best in him. His complaints about RZA's beats make sense in some ways, but like...it's not like he's been able to excel with the dude.
I liked Cuban Linx 2 as well, but Raekwon's more dependent on Wu-Tang than he likes to admit. All his Non-RZA solo efforts are decidedly Eh...
Nobodys like, Put on Immobilarity or The Lex Diamond Story just like nobody really wants to remember Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang and will try to forget Fly International Luxurious Art...
But it seems like he has to put out two mediocre projects before he swallows his pride and goes back to the Abbot for help.
Take a page out of Meth's book, Rae and learn what you need.
I liked Cuban Linx 2 as well, but Raekwon's more dependent on Wu-Tang than he likes to admit. All his Non-RZA solo efforts are decidedly Eh...
Nobodys like, Put on Immobilarity or The Lex Diamond Story just like nobody really wants to remember Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang and will try to forget Fly International Luxurious Art...
But it seems like he has to put out two mediocre projects before he swallows his pride and goes back to the Abbot for help.
Take a page out of Meth's book, Rae and learn what you need.
Complex Shadow
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Reposting this too, cuz beats are ill:
1) link doesn't work.
2) cover looks hilarious/awesome
will download when I get home.\
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toku usually has great avatars. I can't even remember your last one. but then again your one of the few gaffers I just recognize by name.
Discotheque
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Haven't listened to much rap in awhile
I think I'll go through Enzo's last wrap-up since there's a lot of stuff there I haven't listened to yet
I think I'll go through Enzo's last wrap-up since there's a lot of stuff there I haven't listened to yet
Tokubetsu
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Drugs
RZA & Faulkner - NY Anthem. Supposed to be for Yankees or something?
Joell Ortiz ft. B.o.B. & Mally Stakz - Music Saved My Life.
Joell Ortiz ft. B.o.B. & Mally Stakz - Music Saved My Life.
Must be doing a reference for Kanye's animal sounds album or something.
Discotheque
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Lol. What if he fell though? Would have been the goofiest tragedy ever
"LA Rapper YG Falls to his Death While Reenacting Opening to The Lion King"
like what?
Tokubetsu
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Not any hip hop actually, been kinda post-punk and metal focused today. But in case you're still curious it's stuff from The Cure, Nick Cave, Sonic Youth, Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, Black Sabbath, Neil Young, Immortal, and some others.
nice choices.
He's definitely up there, if for nothing else than because the dude is just entertaining. He's entertaining on a level above everyone else. And he can rap.
This type of corporate manipulation is just disgusting.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
IrishNinja
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admittedly i skimmed it, but...does this add anything new? we've known clear channel as the industry's pimps for quite a while now
you don't hear someone like iggy blow up without thinking about shit like this...its like, my girl was saying yesterday that after the 1,000th time hearing it, she came around perry & juicy's track; that's clear channel in effect mode
i can't make it through this fuckery
i once worked a temp gig on the beach out here for some shit just like this, if joe showed up...damn i don't even know
FINALLY
Hahaha whaaaaaaaat. This might be more than 4Tay ever made back in the day.
Tokubetsu
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My favorite rap album of the year so far. I think it's his best album.
The best post punk band that no one ever talks about is Josef K.
Cool, I'll check em out
Tokubetsu
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basedworld isn't from a Cure song. It's an M83 song. "Moon Child" iirc. Off Before The Dawn Heals Us.
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