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I don't really think they were hit or miss. Four dope albums in a row and then a gradual fall off until they reached a horrible nadir (Risk) and became crap. That's about as much as you can expect from a metal band in terms of longevity. In terms of straight numbers they probably have the most enjoyable material overall of the big four other than Slayer the gawds.
All those American thrash bands have essentially the same trajectory: '80-'83 demos/creation of local following, '83-'90 classic after classic, '90-'92 peak commercial success, '93-'03 creativity bottoms out and/or desperate attempt to change your sound due to a shifting metal/hard rock landscape that isn't interested in you anymore, '03- you have now achieved legend status due to a nostalgic fanbase, the internet, and a healthy international audience; capitalize by touring across the globe. This pretty much goes for all mainstream acts that weren't involved in an extreme underground scene or those that didn't initially resonate with the metal audience.
 

Esch

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wait for real, ya'll recommend some 3-6 cause i slept

you should get Smoked Out Locced Out, Mystic Stylez and Chapter 2 World Domination

you should get all the Prophet Posse shit

you should get koopsta knicca da devils playground

All those American thrash bands have essentially the same trajectory: '80-'83 demos/creation of local following, '83-'90 classic after classic, '90-'92 peak commercial success, '93-'03 creativity bottoms out and/or desperate attempt to change your sound due to a shifting metal/hard rock landscape that isn't interested in you anymore, '03- you have now achieved legend status due to a nostalgic fanbase, the internet, and a healthy international audience; capitalize by touring across the globe. This pretty much goes for all mainstream metal that weren't involved in an extreme underground scene or those that didn't initially resonate with the metal audience.

Spot on. This actually applies to a lot of death metal bands too, but on a less commercially viable scale.
 

Snuggles

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My first hip-hop memories were listening to clips of Dr. Dre and Will Smith songs on the Encarta Encyclopedia CD-Rom back in the 90's. The first album I bought was The Marshall Mathers LP, I was thirteen years old at the time so it was a pretty big deal.
 
I think it's cool if rustie produces all the tracks he wants for rappers but I really wish he'd leave verses off his album. Another instrumental journeyman record please

someone better put out a version of attak without db
 

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Pilot Talk 3; big sean, lil wayne, flab soul, wiz khagina (I'm actually okay with this one) no ski beats

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Esch

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Yeah. The only guy who fits is Wiz. I don't care for him dolo but I like some of the tracks him and Spitta have done together. Whatever though man... Fuck Dame Dash.

Free da guy Ski
 
Spot on. This actually applies to a lot of death metal bands too, but on a less commercially viable scale.
I like it as an illustration of how a general audience can be reactionary to music scenes/genres both a generation and two generations prior. Bands, once a new genre had successfully dismissed them, would enter an incubation period where their sound/records/whatever wouldn't be viable until another new genre had dismissed the current one. I think this was a pretty common phenomenon within metal and I'm willing to bet it was common within other genres as well, at least before the internet came through and crushed the buildings.

If I had to liken it to hip-hop, I'd bring up a guy like Juicy J, who made a shift from occult Memphis shit to more radio congenial stuff with Three Six, and then finding his niche again on Taylor Gang.
 
Yeah. The only guy who fits is Wiz. I don't care for him dolo but I like some of the tracks him and Spitta have done together. Whatever though man... Fuck Dame Dash.

Free da guy Ski

So what is the situation with this something to do with Dame's old record label ?
 

Zeus Molecules

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no such thing as Pilot Talk without Ski, get the fuck outta here

I mean I like Cool & Dre and everything but that's not the point

cool & Dre is like going to trackmasters to do it was written.... it might sound dope but its souless

So what is the situation with this something to do with Dame's old record label ?

Zeus Molecules can explain it better than I can. I wish this forum didn't have such a shit feature set so I could @ him like in the coli.

basically the beef started because Dame screwed Spitta by releasing a shitty album (that in hindsight probably wasn't finished) once spitta left the dame's label. The reason Spitta left his label prior to that album being released was dame owed him money from Pilot Talk 1 & 2. Unfortunately the money Dame owed Spitta was based on a verbal agreement (aka nothing). So not only does Dame owe him for the first 2 pilot talks he also released an album without spitta's approval and owes him money for that as well. Even then Spitta said he was trying to make it work to get pilot talk 3 released.

As for Ski (who dame hasn't apparently screwed yet), he and dame are still cool. Ski is signed to him. So there was a point a few years ago spitta said they were trying to work it out between the two parties to make pilot talk 3 but that was dead in the water once spitta began the legal process to get the money dame owed him.

Anyhow I am always down for more Spitta but I would prefer he just leaves Pilot talk 1 & 2 alone and makes this a whole new title.
 
cool & Dre is like going to trackmasters to do it was written.... it might sound dope but its souless

basically Dame screwed Spitta by releasing a shitty album (that in hindsight probably wasn't finished) once spitta left the dame's label. The reason Spitta left his label prior to that album being released was dame owed him money unforuntately the money dame owed him was based on a verbal agreement (aka nothing). So not only does dame owe him for the first 2 pilot talks he also released an album without spitta's approval and owes him money for that as well.

As for Ski (who dame hasn't apparently screwed), he and dame are still cool. Ski is signed to him. So there was a point a few years ago spitta said they were trying to work it out between the two parties to make pilot talk 3 but that was dead in the water once spitta began the legal process to get the money dame owed him.

Anyhow I am always down for more Spitta but I would prefer he just leaves Pilot talk 1 & 2 alone and makes this a whole new title.

Wow that fucking sucks Dame being a hoe holding out on the money and I think Cool&Dre are dope but Pilot Talk is defined by Currensy rapping over some Ski beatz that set a particular mood.
 

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I just downloaded over fifty rap albums and mixtapes that I might have slept on over the past 6 months...Can't wait to go through all these. Might take weeks, but I'm pretty hopeful.
 
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