You could also use one of the more casual incarnations of post street mixtape/shooting 50 Cent for a comparison as well. Note that the former (Prodigy) also uses a piecemeal rap style for massive beats as well, yet you don't hear dustheads complaining there.
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You could also use one of the more casual incarnations of post street mixtape/shooting 50 Cent for a comparison as well. Note that the former (Prodigy) also uses a piecemeal rap style for massive beats as well, yet you don't hear dustheads complaining there.
Pickles the Firecat
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If this dude rolls through Low End, MOD, or Discotan...brehs it would be too live. This is the venue:
Arca @ The First Unitarian Church, 09.25
tickets on sale 08.01 at 12 PM.
If this dude rolls through Low End, MOD, or Discotan...brehs it would be too live. This is the venue:
Tokubetsu
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Net_Wrecker
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You're right. Personally, I don't have a problem with their verses at all. French + Fraud = Gimme. An entire album of that would be top 5 for the year, and I'm not even a French fan otherwise. He just works so well on those beats.
88 Coupes is great too.
Discotheque
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I was playing the hell out of coke boys intro, 88 coupe and especially god body during the semester but still damn I forgot that even released this year until esch posted that
I fxcked with this joint heavy, because it sounds like some swaggy final fantasy 7 casino shit, but it's not quite exactly where I want it. I need French to ride the wave, and the wave requires a borderline obnoxious pitched and distorted female voice mixed up super loud with some purely wavy keys to accompany.
Had low expectations since I don't much care for The Beastie Boys, but this is fucking awesome. Hak's verse doesn't sound as good over this beat, but the overall the track is cold.
this is hot. (lol did not intentionally do that in response to your "cold" playdat)
I can't even fuck with any of those French songs posted. His voice and flow is just poison on tracks, even with hot beats. I don't even think he's hype on Pop That.
I think the only songs I've enjoyed him on are Stay Schemin, Mula' and Body Work. Everything else ranges from barely tolerable to terrible. No hyperbole, I think he might be one of the worst MCs to ever graze a mic and pop off.
I think the only songs I've enjoyed him on are Stay Schemin, Mula' and Body Work. Everything else ranges from barely tolerable to terrible. No hyperbole, I think he might be one of the worst MCs to ever graze a mic and pop off.
PhoenixDark
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French is completely carried by his production. Horrible rapper, comes up with good hooks that blend well with whatever chorus jack his producer provides.
CountBlack
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French is just a human embodiment of
i'm gonna
PhoenixDark
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You might as well listen to Flo Rida if you're gonna stan French Montana. Both of them have perfected the "rap over good house songs or EDM" gimmick. Sure they're trash but you'll nod your head all the same.
As you all know, Max B is my guy. I found it strange for Max to hook up with French 6 or 7 years ago. Max had that wonderful flow with his verses and amazing hooks and French sounded pretty amateur next to Max.
Coke Wave 1 & 2 were great tapes, carried mostly by Max and Dame Grease production. But I got to say it, French's Ain't Worried Bout Nothing was one of my absolute favourite individual tracks of last year.
Coke Wave 1 & 2 were great tapes, carried mostly by Max and Dame Grease production. But I got to say it, French's Ain't Worried Bout Nothing was one of my absolute favourite individual tracks of last year.
No hypocrisy here, already mentioned that snippet sounds like trash. Not only that, but French will be trash even after the Earth hurls itself into the Suni'm gonnagood off both y'all misery and/or hypocrisy when all of that French/Kanye material drops, just like I eat good off PD, Detox's and Irish's dust misery right now.
unless Kanye helps evolve his rapping ability, which is unlikely
Flo-Rida is like Michael Jackson in comparison to French. At least Flo-Rida has put out quite a few great verses and been on many great songs before he went full pop. French doesn't have that quality, he struggles staying on flow, pretty much begging you not to bop your head.
French doesn't rap over EDM or house songs unless it's someone else's feature. Why do you use words and concepts you don't know, and pretend to know about music you haven't listened to?
Either way, no stan. I'm not saying he's incredible, but the hate is hilarious, given that i've seen you fawn over plenty of material with similar themes, delivery, flow, energy etc. Doesn't make sense to praise shit like Curren$y and Prodigy post takeover while turning your nose up at French. Maybe he should use the word dunny more.
Net_Wrecker
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Florida isn't being all wavy on Harry Fraud beats though.
It's like some kind of idiot savant thing that happens with that combo.
Discotheque
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This Christopher Walken soundalike at the beginning.
christopher walken co-sign >>>>> one from nas
from one king of new york to another.
best montana/fraud description. also suits lil b and riff raff on occasion.
I like this song.
PhoenixDark
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Didn't someone just post God Body lmao, or are you going to argue Crave You isn't house. I have better ways to spend my night but I swear I've heard French rap over similar shit before too.
I don't hate French, I just think he's trash. Dude can't rap. Unless you're going to troll and claim Spitta or Prodigy can't rap, the comparison doesn't fit. French comes up with some nice melodies but he's often off key so...yea. His production carries him.
At least Flo Rida can rap lol.
He's rapping over a wavy cut of some house, not the actual genre- there's a difference.
Spitta and Prodigy CAN rap, but they often choose to do exactly what French does, and I'll never hear you complain about it. I've heard both mumble and coast to the extreme on tracks, but never a peep. Basically you just don't like him as an artist, you don't really have a problem with the technique.
Curren$y and P don't belong in a category with French.
I developed The French Montana Theory a while back, might as well share it with y'all. Pretty much: if there is any positive quality you can think of or associate with a hip-hop artist, or musicians flat out, it does not apply to French Montana. Has yet to be disproven, I've gone through some rigorous testing:
- Charisma
- Flow
- Technical lyrical ability
- Content
- Songwriting
- Hookwriting
- Feature potency
- Personality
He can do none of these consistently.
I developed The French Montana Theory a while back, might as well share it with y'all. Pretty much: if there is any positive quality you can think of or associate with a hip-hop artist, or musicians flat out, it does not apply to French Montana. Has yet to be disproven, I've gone through some rigorous testing:
- Charisma
- Flow
- Technical lyrical ability
- Content
- Songwriting
- Hookwriting
- Feature potency
- Personality
He can do none of these consistently.
I mean you're a Kanye West stan and he comes straight garbage, absolute corny barely rapped trash plenty of the time and you eat it up, now you're about consistency and technical standards?
Dude has hot beats, and rides them in a chill way that I enjoy? He adds a sing songy, talk that shit vibe to tracks, and even though he'll never be Max B level, it's still not an undesirable quality- to me
His songwriting is deliberately simplistic. Remember him saying last week that lyrical rappers are all broke?
As for hook writing, French spent a few years chilling with The Lord of Hook Writing, Max B. So it's strange why his hook writing isn't up there.
But still, French comes up with good tunes every so often.
PhoenixDark
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Wavy cut...more like a wavy loop of some house. So how am I wrong here. Flo Rida raps over some wavy shit lol.
I'm on record multiple times criticizing modern Prodigy. I like Albert Einstein but it's clear his rapping has been downgraded. Spitta isn't a great rapper, he gets by on charisma and dope lines. French looks like a fatherless clown from Harlem, I don't sense any charisma. And he doesn't have any lines. Dude is just trash, admit it breh. You're gonna die on a hill for French Montana? Listen to Spitta embarrass this cornball on a wavy track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8GnYXKfEk
There's literally nothing French does that is above average, breh.
At one point Prodigy was a top 5 rapper so I don't see the point in bringing him up.
Read the theory again. He has none of those components consistently. Can't sing very well, can't rap very well, annoying voice, etc. Kanye consistently has charisma, flow, songwriting ability. Curren$y has charisma, and Prodigy has technical lyrical ability and a great rapper voice too.I mean you're a Kanye West stan and he comes straight garbage, absolute corny barely rapped trash plenty of the time and you eat it up, now you're about consistency and technical standards?
Dude has hot beats, and rides them in a chill way that I enjoy? He adds a sing songy, talk that shit vibe to tracks, and even though he'll never be Max B level, it's still not an undesirable quantity- to me
I guess you can give him an ear for beats, but he does go in some some super tiring generic stuff more often than not. I guess hooking up w/Fraud tempers that a bit.
Once again, you're fascinated with and focus on how other men look and feel and use that as a choice whether to be interested in them or not. I suggest you look into that a little bit with a specialist. If you'd like, I have some contacts in the field and could direct you to someone who can help you work these feelings out, even up in Michigan. Also French came plenty chill on that, it's about feel and atmosphere setting. Dude does his thing on the right track. I'm not saying he's a contender for a crown of even decent rappers; just that he has some joints and contexts to be enjoyable.
either way, it's just weird to see you guys hate so much, for saying that a couple of guy's songs are enjoyable. he has a fairly unique style that works for him. On the tracks that he raps more- nah. He's always going to be a tone and theme guy who sets up with some chill shit. I'm not surprised that y'all are haters tho, cause the wave isn't for the super straightlaced.
Discotheque
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that project was whoooo. didn't it make a bunch of gaf-hop top 10s?
PhoenixDark
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You're trying way too hard breh. You gotta take the first L of this thread breh. I hate it had to be you.
Montana has no redeeming qualities and makes bad music. Not surprised that you focus on the beats though - that's all he has. Like some other rappers I could name.
Discotheque
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did you guys see the GQ top albums of the century list?
...why do white ppl love MBDTF so much? i like the album quite a bit but it's baffling how much critical reception it got.
was it the bon iver?
edit: maybe i shouldn't just say white people, why does everybody like it.
...why do white ppl love MBDTF so much? i like the album quite a bit but it's baffling how much critical reception it got.
was it the bon iver?
edit: maybe i shouldn't just say white people, why does everybody like it.
CountBlack
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You're trying way too hard breh. You gotta take the first L of this thread breh. I hate it had to be you.
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esch my nigga
Good lookin out.
MorisUkunRasik
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French Montana should be whack as fuck....and yet he has made some dope tracks.
Pitchfork influence
I think French Montana makes awesome hooks and can be surprisingly lyrical (if you're walking into one his verses with absolutely no expecations, as you should). He has some clever word play sometimes. He also broke Harry Fraud on the scene, keeps the spirit of Max B alive, and in general is a real dude. There is no reason to hate. Also his off key and mumble delivery is really dope if you're high as fuck.
I remember PD hating on Stay Schemin when it came out, saying that "Ross was too cheap to pay Drake to sing the hook". Drake couldn't have sang that hook without sounding dumb as fuck. No one could've, but from French, it really works. Dude has no shame and his drunk as fuck flow makes shit just sound pretty cool. Ever since then tho, I knew PD was a fuckboy.
I remember PD hating on Stay Schemin when it came out, saying that "Ross was too cheap to pay Drake to sing the hook". Drake couldn't have sang that hook without sounding dumb as fuck. No one could've, but from French, it really works. Dude has no shame and his drunk as fuck flow makes shit just sound pretty cool. Ever since then tho, I knew PD was a fuckboy.
Discotheque
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esch...don't do that brah.
:yeshrug fair enough, I meant what I said as far as giving a hand (currently work in mental health). It's just that for once, I'd like to have a discussion about rappers not based on attractiveness or how they look, it's a weird derail.
PhoenixDark
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You're really mad over some real talk about French Montana?
My porn habits are well known, I make no apologies about that. I'm not the only dude who got his stroke game from Lex Steel, Mandingo, etc. Beyond that, dunno what my trolling has to do with anything. The virgin shit got old and I moved on; dunno see how it's any different from Demi's bear trolling.
I find it interesting that you try to take personal shots whenever you get into a debate or argument but hey, you're still my breh. But you're looking mad sensitive right now. I'm chilling eating some black bean tacos and sonning French Montana. Not the best Thursday night but I'll take it.
I know I've posted it a million times, but this song is a certified banger, and really only could've been done by French. It's probably his best song, mostly because it sounds well produced, mixed, recorded, and engineered unlike most of his best songs. It's the epitome of wavy to me and one of his coolest verses with all sorts of flow changes.
This song alone, says to me that French has some raw talent that is waiting to be translated to a pretty great album under the right executive producer.
Mean
edit - straight up tho PD is the most sus dude in gaf hop history and maybe gaf. when the bell tolls he will be remembered for his odd infatuation with men and denial of his homo tendencies. not that its a bad thing, just odd
This song alone, says to me that French has some raw talent that is waiting to be translated to a pretty great album under the right executive producer.
Mean
edit - straight up tho PD is the most sus dude in gaf hop history and maybe gaf. when the bell tolls he will be remembered for his odd infatuation with men and denial of his homo tendencies. not that its a bad thing, just odd
Terrible list and I liked MBDTF.
They got Stankonia at #3 and the inferior Frank Ocean album at 7. Disregard.
IrishNinja
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you know i'm in agreement, but this is the part where i remind you how you ride for Sean, so
i'm gonnagood off both y'all misery and/or hypocrisy when all of that French/Kanye material drops, just like I eat good off PD, Detox's and Irish's dust misery right now.
that combo will likely happen again, and ill just fast forward or whatever...but my alleged dust misery is doing pretty good, watching animated batman over here and gonna go for a swim in a bit, i'm good my dude
oh if you meant musically than...well that last com album didn't go so well overall but i'm saving shabazz for the weekend
i need some spoiler free details here since i couldnt go tonight due to work, why is crow being served/did shit not deliever or did PD ride against it like obama in '12
Nah, some people thought the premise of the movie was shit when it was announced and it came out and people are unanimously saying it's top 3 marvel films ever. Someone just dug up all the naysayers and put them on blast.
TBH I loved the comics when I read them but I was skeptical too. Seeing it tomorrow and I'm hyped. Pretty much can't not deliver from what I've seen thus far.
PhoenixDark
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Real talk, I had a feeling Avatar would do well but had to take that bet for fun...but GOTG has me shook. The entire concept and look of the film is like a bad 90s summer blockbuster; all it's missing is a Will Smith song. But it looks like it's going to be a hit. Marvel has this shit down to a science I guess.
I was planning on a "Ant Man is going to bomb" argument but nah...Marvel has this.
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