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GAF-Hop |OTXI| Five Year Nation
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He is the only Executive Producer with something to say.
The Artful Dodger
Member
I think the intro and especially the Interlude are 2 of the best tracks on the album.
MuddyDonut
Member
Bones is dope and new Kendrick flylo is dope. GAF hop and I are no longer one.
MuddyDonut
Member
That new SoundCloud mobile update doe ~~~~
Courage your my new fave since kams/siddx don't post in here anymore.
Courage your my new fave since kams/siddx don't post in here anymore.
Wait, is there a new update? I'm not seeing it yet. I was deeply disappointed by all of the missing features when they overhauled the app a couple months ago, been waiting and hoping for some of that shit to get restored. They really fucked up with that one.
You can always go back to /mu/ where you belong
Discotheque
Banned
Bones tape is good
New Kendrick flylo ain't
New Kendrick flylo ain't
First Impressions:
Jeezy - Seen It All
Disappointing; seems like he put a lot of effort into everything but it just doesn't stick. I mean a lot of these songs aren't bad, you may even call them good for album cuts, but they're also either forgettable or very familiar in song concept. I think it would be less of a problem if the singles/standouts weren't so few and generally not as good as or diverse as anything off of TM103. And like Domino mentioned a while back, a general lack of faster songs that get you pumped up (which certainly would fit with the theme of the album too).
Very hesitant to call the album bad, I can understand how someone might like this (outside of some outright bad shit like 4 Zones and anytime Jeezy tries to sing) but yeah it's.. not satisfying. Almost reminds me of some MMG projects with the production being so homogenous and some of these songs feeling like they could have replaced each other very easily in the process of cutting the album down to a reasonable length. The singles were very well chosen though, they're pretty much the only better than average songs on the album.
tl;dr:
Flying Lotus ft. Kendrick Lamar - Never Catch Me
I mean, Esch already summed it up better than anyone else, but hey what the hell. Completely inorganic, Kendrick's verse has absolutely nothing notable in it, and is mostly tutti frutti rap. If this was spit by a different rapper with better delivery, and wasn't being completely drowned by the production, it'd get shit on. Inspirational lyrics contrasted against the very definition of overproduction. Anything that could be left alone and probably left alone is switched up, to varying degrees of failure. Some times you get a whif of it sounding like some cool 90s racing game BGM or something but just as it gets going and something good it starts to chop up, very reminiscent of Em all over MMLP2.
tl;dr:
Jeezy - Seen It All
Disappointing; seems like he put a lot of effort into everything but it just doesn't stick. I mean a lot of these songs aren't bad, you may even call them good for album cuts, but they're also either forgettable or very familiar in song concept. I think it would be less of a problem if the singles/standouts weren't so few and generally not as good as or diverse as anything off of TM103. And like Domino mentioned a while back, a general lack of faster songs that get you pumped up (which certainly would fit with the theme of the album too).
Very hesitant to call the album bad, I can understand how someone might like this (outside of some outright bad shit like 4 Zones and anytime Jeezy tries to sing) but yeah it's.. not satisfying. Almost reminds me of some MMG projects with the production being so homogenous and some of these songs feeling like they could have replaced each other very easily in the process of cutting the album down to a reasonable length. The singles were very well chosen though, they're pretty much the only better than average songs on the album.
tl;dr:
Flying Lotus ft. Kendrick Lamar - Never Catch Me
I mean, Esch already summed it up better than anyone else, but hey what the hell. Completely inorganic, Kendrick's verse has absolutely nothing notable in it, and is mostly tutti frutti rap. If this was spit by a different rapper with better delivery, and wasn't being completely drowned by the production, it'd get shit on. Inspirational lyrics contrasted against the very definition of overproduction. Anything that could be left alone and probably left alone is switched up, to varying degrees of failure. Some times you get a whif of it sounding like some cool 90s racing game BGM or something but just as it gets going and something good it starts to chop up, very reminiscent of Em all over MMLP2.
tl;dr:
I agree with all of this. I also felt the production was all over the place, which also made the album feel less remarkable.
Also fuck you Jeezy with the chill/laid back joints. Your voice is too abrasive and rough for that shit. Give me banger after banger.
Yeah the project definitely doesn't play to Jeezy's strengths. Couldn't even get through one listen of the album without having to throw on Get Crunk Muzik to break up the monotony.
I understand he wants to be a bit more grown up with this project, but I listen to him for that abrasiveness that's conveyed through his voice alone. You can spit game to the kids on those songs too, and hell, they'll probably be more receptive to it. Also, pretty much none of the slower songs on here are as good as the slower songs on TM103 either, like F.A.M.E., I DO, Everythang, etc., the only good feature is Jay, etc.
That FlyLoxKDot shit was dope now that I've gotten a chance to listen to it without the drops. It's definitely painting an interesting picture of FL's state of mind and the adventure into progressive jazz fusion. It'll be nice to see how it all belongs to the bigger picture and the album as a whole.
The Artful Dodger
Member
It seems like with rappers like 50 and Jeezy, it's harder to make that transition to maturing their sound as they get older.
There are a few factors involved, I think. Lack of lyricism/introspection is probably top of my list on it. Idk what do you guys think?
Pretty much what you said, along with a lack of vision/ambition.
But some artists don't even have to mature. Jeezy and Rick Ross will be fine if they keep doing what they're good at doing. It's just how they were built. No real room for progression unless they do something very left field and it happens to work.
50 tries to emulate his old shit but it all sounds corny now, since that sound is so outdated.
I think it's because they gave us a certain feel, and when that changes or starts being forced, you take notice, and that affects your experience.
I think Jay has been generally good about it, and succeeded in places 50 failed, notably with respect to how he chooses and delivers content. It's totally okay for these older rappers to talk about old experiences and maybe even reflect on them, but Jay delivers it like that shit was written in scripture, whereas 50 is sort of sounding like he's trying to sell you what he sold you a while ago once more. I guess you could call it storytelling ability.
MuddyDonut
Member
....I don't know if I should say this but I left /mu/ for here.You can always go back to /mu/ where you belong
MuddyDonut
Member
It's really just the now playing screen. Everything else is the same as its been.
I'd recognize that smell anywhere
50 and Jeezy basically made hooks and bangers breh. Jay did too, but he had more morsels in his writing style that set him apart; the double entendres, the humor, the different flows and styles can use, he's more versatile than those guys so that's why he's the only surviving drug rapper. Plus the beats picked ain't right. Jeezy picks good beats, but they don't really strike me as some grown man shit, they're in that elevated trap area. 50 Cent? lol...
I just think it's funny af that Jeezy named his album after a MCHG track that Jay (stupidly) decided to throw away
i need context on this pic
Word is bond fam. I like that Pickles knows what he's talking about and is getting behind it but isn't going to the 'it's jazz and if you like jazz you'll like it' route. FOH. But that's the interesting thing about jazz. Since it often defies so many western musical conventions it's hard to evaluate on any level other than personal. I like jazz plenty. I'm a big Charlie Parker and Sun-Ra fan, and I used to be a MO state recognized Superior jazz guitarist in high school. I just have overtime fallen out of favor with a lot of clickity clackity clack jazz messterpieces that aren't even interestingly chaotic, just overlayered and disorganized.
But hey, everyone does their thing.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I just think it's funny af that Jeezy named his album after a MCHG track that Jay (stupidly) decided to throw away
peep the semi religious/semi Illuminati trolling imagery, and Jeezy's attempt to be more CEO-ish music wise lately. Dude is jacking hard. Gibbs said it perfect, Jeezy is too dumb to be Jay.
is it true homeboy couldn't bail himself out of jail a few weeks ago lmao, or was that Coli fuckerey.
MuddyDonut
Member
one of my favorite tracks on the clipping album with a kind of not so good video. The last couple were pretty decent..
The Artful Dodger
Member
Jazz fans. Do you like Rahsaan Roland Kirk?
Nope, any good?
Thank god i'm not the only one who noticed this too. The funny thing is it just doesn't really work for Jeezy. You ain't part of the illuminati or any shit like that breh. You're a tier 2 rapper from atlanta who used to be hot. Nobody's buying into that shit or image, even as a joke.
Bubbavelli
Banned
Ahhh a rap haven in neogaf? I can get jiggy with that. I used to be heavy into rap and even wrote for a couple sites but I can't get into it like I used to because everything just sounds so similar.
Lately I've been listening to a lot of southern shit (migos, young thug, gucci) mostly because that's where I feel all the creativity is,
Avatar definitely related
Im 21
Lately I've been listening to a lot of southern shit (migos, young thug, gucci) mostly because that's where I feel all the creativity is,
Avatar definitely related
The Return of
Banned
Yeah,I ain't want to comment on dudes in here acting like the FlyLo track is good because they like jazz
It's experimental jazz. Very abrasive and rough sounds with a sax. I'm sure more musically literate fans in this thread will give it a better description. I personally love it.
Judges is a good song of his
Syph Medwes
Member
I would've totally listened to a 45 minute version of On Sight. But only that song just for the beat switch up.
Speaking of beats, lyrics notwithstanding, you guys telling me you really didn't like that Jeezy song?
Also in case Des hasn't posted it yet:
Johnny Polygon - The Fall
Speaking of beats, lyrics notwithstanding, you guys telling me you really didn't like that Jeezy song?
Also in case Des hasn't posted it yet:
Johnny Polygon - The Fall
The Return of
Banned
Is that Peewee long way mugshot? Lol
Bubbavelli
Banned
That it is sir.
RUNNIN AROUND THE LOBBY LONGWAY LONGWAY
RUNNIN AROUND THE LOBBY LONGWAY LONGWAY
New history one and two are monumental records of contemporary doom jazz
Will check out. I'm on a big carnatic music kick right now and could use something else to listen to.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I'm fine with someone doing it for one song (see: Devil Is a Lie) even if I find it corny...but the entire album is using that imagery apparently. I get that Jay is the blueprint and there isn't anything wrong with following it...but when you're jacking shit that is Hov's specific "niche" then you lost. Being a CEO, making broad financial boasts, belittling the competition...all that stuff is fine. But if rap was wrestling, Illuminati trolling would be Jay's gimmick. Jeezy out chea trying to use caskets as if the Undertaker doesn't exist.
kiss ophelia
Neo Member
Seen some of you guys post about being short. Here are A$AP Ferg's Tips for Short People. Go get those tall ladies brehs.
So this is why 360 deals always fuck the artists over so much; they're missing the true money maker.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Tokubetsu
Member
R.I.P. PhoenixDark
"wear baby clothes," got it
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