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overcast

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I need to sort my top 10.

I liked Vince Staples EP quite a bit though. At least the first 5 songs are really good, then it kind of gets really dull in the last two tracks.
 
my top 10. cover your eyes.

migos - no label 2
kap g - like a mexican
future - honest
zach farlow - the great escape
rick ross - mastermind
riff raff - neon icon
yg - my krazy life
travis scott - days before rodeo
hs87 - we the plug
yung lean - unknown memory

lol kap g? is his album actually any good?

my list is looking pretty similar to Des' with a couple additions
gotta show Days before rodeo love
although id raise pinata
loving the Banco inclusion
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
Track rankings will be more fun. Right now the Cookin' Soul remix of Better In Tune with the Infinite is prob at the top. Also Paranoid rmx w/ Trey and French, RIP Kevin Miller, Honest, Hot Nigga, Chanel Vintage, Skyfall, Pull It, Studio and Blanguage off the top of my head.
 

enzo_gt

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Cilvia is gonna be up there for me. It's passed the longevity test, since I also still listen to it or tracks off it on a regular basis. The test of time is probably the biggest sign of a good album. I don't think I could do a top ten of albums I really feel that way about yet. Got plenty of the more underground shit to catch up with but so far there aren't a lot of projects that have really stuck with me after the first few listens.
Now that you mention it, I can't really name many albums I stuck with this year.

Also very weird because this year more than any I've spent less time catching up on the previous year and more time listening to new releases.
 
Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.
 
Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.

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HiResDes

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Track rankings will be more fun. Right now the Cookin' Soul remix of Better In Tune with the Infinite is prob at the top. Also Paranoid rmx w/ Trey and French, RIP Kevin Miller, Honest, Hot Nigga, Chanel Vintage, Skyfall, Pull It, Studio and Blanguage off the top of my head.

U Guessed It and Fuck Em have gotten a ridiculous amount of play from me
 

overcast

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Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.
What the fuck. Album is almost 80 minutes long. That's too damn long for somebody like Drake, he has nothing to say really. Drake sounds awkward over two of the best goddamn beats he's been given (Lord Knows and Under Ground Kings), and the album is composed of like 50% good tracks. NWTS is a much better put together package.
 

Snuggles

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U Guessed It and Fuck Em have gotten a ridiculous amount of play from me
I need to listen to that OG Maco again. Only got my phone for all things internet so it's difficult listening to tapes. The datpiff app is trash.

NWTS is my favorite Drake album for sure. It's a great and mostly consistent package overall with several fuckin killer tracks. After that I like So Far Gone then Take Care.
 

enzo_gt

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What the fuck. Album is almost 80 minutes long. That's too damn long for somebody like Drake, he has nothing to say really. Drake sounds awkward over two of the best goddamn beats he's been given (Lord Knows and Under Ground Kings), and the album is composed of like 50% good tracks. NWTS is a much better put together package.
Switch NWTS with Take Care, and replace Lord Knows and UGK with 305 To My City and Worst Behaviour and you have my opinion.
 

Esch

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Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.
No lies detected.
 

enzo_gt

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lol @ using influence as an argument, throwing random shots at Ye when 808s has had more of an influence than anything else in rap, and then ending with the notion that GKMC had any influence beyond My Krazy Life

Keep pushin' brah
 

DominoKid

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What the fuck. Album is almost 80 minutes long. That's too damn long for somebody like Drake, he has nothing to say really. Drake sounds awkward over two of the best goddamn beats he's been given (Lord Knows and Under Ground Kings), and the album is composed of like 50% good tracks. NWTS is a much better put together package.

Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.

yall killing me w/ these lies.
 

Snuggles

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lol @ using influence as an argument, throwing random shots at Ye when 808s has had more of an influence than anything else in rap, and then ending with the notion that GKMC had any influence beyond My Krazy Life

Keep pushin' brah
What has 808s inspired? I just wanna see your reasoning.
 
zach farlow aka white homie quan warmed up on me after i relistened later on.

it's too derivative of all that other stuff though, i don't think it'd make a top ten.
 

enzo_gt

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What has 808s inspired? I just wanna see your reasoning.
It broke in the acceptance of singy songy rap, tempered use of autotune in rap and gave it a more stylistic appreciation (mostly because songs like Heartless outlived pretty much everything else from the autotune era), fathered Drake's style which later disseminated into a lot of modern MCs. From there "emotional" rap became a lot more common and acceptable in the mainstream after eras of gangster rap and some of the more braggadocious stuff inbetween. Decent retrospective here.

The last one is a correlation, not causation, but after 808s you pretty much saw a ton of producers start using the 808 and a year or two later we saw it take over hip-hop and birth trap.

808s was so influential it inspired T-Pain to use autotune which then inspired Kanye doing it on 808s.
And then 808s inspired The College Dropout.
 

Esch

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The last one is a correlation, not causation, but after 808s you pretty much saw a ton of producers start using the 808 and a year or two later we saw it take over hip-hop and birth trap..

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the 808 been a sound of the south etc way before kanye

there are like, 2 live crew records with that shit on it
 

Snuggles

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Nice post Enzo. Guess I never looked at 808s like that as a birth of a sound but since then there's been a lot of tuned singing in both verses and hooks, especially from the chicago and atlanta dudes.
 

enzo_gt

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the 808 been a sound of the south etc way before kanye

there are like, 2 live crew records with that shit on it
Like I said, no causation (pretty much everything you can trace back to someone using a voicebox or some shit in the 80s if you really want), but the resurgence was timely.

It is a stretch though, I would still put Flocka as the 2nd most influential artist (Flockaveli as the album), because it was more than just production that he brought to the game (his rapping style diversified throughout the years too). The other influences? Self-evident, really. Flocka deserves the credit for trap, even if 808s theoretically influenced trap.
 
lol @ using influence as an argument, throwing random shots at Ye when 808s has had more of an influence than anything else in rap, and then ending with the notion that GKMC had any influence beyond My Krazy Life

Keep pushin' brah
808s is just a worse The Love Below. That album birthed 808s, sold better, was more critically acclaimed, had a bigger hit song, and was a better album.

GKMC opened the door for the west coast revival going on right now. When an album is successful, labels look for the next similar thing. Like how Lupe got a deal because Atlantic wanted the "next" Kanye: not saying Lupe is the next Kanye, just that's what the label wanted.
 

enzo_gt

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808s is just a worse The Love Below. That album birthed 808s, sold better, was more critically acclaimed, had a bigger hit song, and was a better album.

GKMC opened the door for the west coast revival going on right now. When an album is successful, labels look for the next similar thing. Like how Lupe got a deal because Atlantic wanted the "next" Kanye: not saying Lupe is the next Kanye, just that's what the label wanted.
The Documentary birthed GKMC in the same way you allege The Love Below birthed 808s.

I've said it a hundred times, you can trace shit as far back as you want, but it takes a certain project or album to make the shift. Next you're gonna say Run DMC influenced [broken telephone here] who influenced Lil Dicky. It doesn't matter, because it doesn't make a difference until someone makes that cultural shift.

Not only that, but the influence 808s had on Drake far outshines the West's resurgence (which also has slumped similar to when Game broke out, but with more artists that are maintaining), and is more widespread. Shit, even Kendrick cites 808s as an influence.
 
I'll give 808s credit for its atmosphere but the 808 drums? That's just some bullshit. It never left the south. Just about every album was filled with it. Crunk was filled with 808s, we really going to ignore that and act like 808s birth trap somehow someway despite Crunk Muzik being the next closest thing to Trap and came before 808s? Truthfully if anything Kanye was just hoping onto the bandwagon with those drums because it was already popping since The South was becoming increasingly more popular year after year.
 

enzo_gt

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I'll give 808s credit for its atmosphere but the 808 drums? That's just some bullshit. It never left the south. Just about every album was filled with it. Crunk was filled with 808s, we really going to ignore that and act like 808s birth trap somehow someway despite Crunk Muzik being the next closest thing to Trap and came before 808s? Truthfully if anything Kanye was just hoping onto the bandwagon with those drums because it was already popping since The South was becoming increasingly more popular year after year.
Now that you mention it, Kanye really grew an infatuation for Jeezy at the time, who laid groundwork for trap and was on his way to his peak.

Yeah okay, scratch that completely. Like I said, no causation, because stylistically they're pretty disparate.
 

Esch

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I'll give 808s credit for its atmosphere but the 808 drums? That's just some bullshit. It never left the south. Just about every album was filled with it. Crunk was filled with 808s, we really going to ignore that and act like 808s birth trap somehow someway despite Crunk Muzik being the next closest thing to Trap and came before 808s? Truthfully if anything Kanye was just hoping onto the bandwagon with those drums because it was already popping since The South was becoming increasingly more popular year after year.
Word. I dead ass see the 808 as a building block of the south sound period. Not even just rap either but shit like Miami bass....
 
I play Cilvia much much much more than I play Pinata. I love Cyhi's project so much, but I really think the lower bitrate is affecting how I feel about it because I can barely stand to listen to it with headphones.

Agreed about Cyhi and That shyne vol 2 project from Vince is the same for me.

Take Care is better than everything Kanye has done since Late Registration IMO. I hate on Drake but that album is really good pop rap over great, lush production. And like it or not it has had more impact on modern rap than anything outside of GKMC recently.


I burst out laughing at that first sentence.
 

Tokubetsu

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Banco has some good production but idk how you could listen to all the amazing rap from all these different avenues and think it's the best album to drop this year. HRD is mad.
 

HiResDes

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Banco has some good production but idk how you could listen to all the amazing rap from all these different avenues and think it's the best album to drop this year. HRD is mad.

I don't think it's just great production, they're great songs to me, anthems if you will. Anyone that has YG in their list and has the nerve to call Banco samey is fucking deaf
 

enzo_gt

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Banco is probably 5-10 for me. My Krazy Life is a tough one. My N***a might just be song of the forever, and there's a few other songs on there that jam too. Oxymoron is another tough one. I think it's much better than what people are giving it credit for but truth be told I burnt out on it pretty quick. Potentially 5-10.

Come December I think I'm gonna go through a lot of the popular releases I missed (someone mentioning So It Goes reminded me of this).

Infamous Mobb Deep is another one on my list, seemed like there wasn't too much buzz around it. Scust @ myself for listening to G I R L but not this tho
 

HiResDes

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People that really liked Mick Jenkin's Water tape should listen to Sean Leon's Narcissus, The Drowning of Ego.





...And there's a ton of other stuff that I've talked about in the rapups that are creeping up on my top ten.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
My top ten of 2014

Fredddie Gibbs - Pinata
Rick Ross - Mastermind
Bubba Sparxxx - Made on Mccosh Mill Road (low expectations)
Nobody - Nothing Worth Making a Top Ten List, I Mean The Game Album Wasn't Bad, But Not Top Ten Or Anything

Disappointing album tier
The Roots, Isiah Rashad, Atmosphere, Schoolboy Q, Common
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Stop giving all your attention to mainstream/retail shit and you will find that this year has been great.

...what, is this 2001 or something? Like, only 30 percent of what gets talked about is mainstream stuff. Nothing really caught my interest this year on the understated end, but that doesn't mean I haven't heard of Soundcloud or try out some of the stuff posted ITT. Normally, there are some off the beaten path records on my list, but this year has just been sort of limp.

EDIT: I did forget the Jon Conner mixtape, but I don't know where to place a rapper who just spits over other people's beats. He's not really underground or whatever, but that mixtape is still on a playlist. Guess that'd be in my top 5
 
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