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GAF-Hop |OTXVI| Build a Wall (of Better Top 20 Albums)
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Psychological Intellect
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Yo Stoney tho....No Option got me
Cesare Borgia
Banned
Less diverse? The instrumentation alone is more diverse than FHD. It's also more ambitious, and a "concept album."
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Few good tracks on the cole album on first couple listens. Definitely a much stronger first impression
Than FHD.
Immortal, Neighbors, folding clothes are all nice. Its very much on the nose but Cole's never been one for nuance but I can appreciate it.
Also there's a twitter thing going on about the Deja Vu beat. Vinylz and Boi1da claim that Vinylz made the beat first and the producer who did the bryson tiller song stole it. He basically admitted to it on twitter too.
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=6066137.0
Than FHD.
Immortal, Neighbors, folding clothes are all nice. Its very much on the nose but Cole's never been one for nuance but I can appreciate it.
Also there's a twitter thing going on about the Deja Vu beat. Vinylz and Boi1da claim that Vinylz made the beat first and the producer who did the bryson tiller song stole it. He basically admitted to it on twitter too.
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=6066137.0
Black Republican
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Freddie Gibbs
Net_Wrecker
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Stoney is so wavy, and yeah like Des said it starts super strong, but it's too long. Deluxe version is over an hour, Post Malone noooo. August 26th was so good in part because it was condensed. Got in, did what it did, and got out with you wanting more.
But damn Post Malone's melodies + the production still make it easy to play this whole thing through, even the "ehhhhhhh" tracks. I'm conflicted.
J. Cole on the other hand..... Nah.
But damn Post Malone's melodies + the production still make it easy to play this whole thing through, even the "ehhhhhhh" tracks. I'm conflicted.
J. Cole on the other hand..... Nah.
wild wild rice
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I see everyone putting Jeffery on their year end lists with SS3 and I'm Up nowhere in site.
SS3+I'm Up> Jeffery
SS3+I'm Up> Jeffery
Glass Rebel
Member
...isn't that basically what he is, sans the cowboy hat?
Junior Mint
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4 your eyez is the type of music that gets played at an independent coffee shop run by 30 year old white dudes
foldin clothes is the corniest shit i've ever heard.
foldin clothes is the corniest shit i've ever heard.
This Cole album definitely has a mellow and soulful vibe to it so I could see some people not rocking with this.
Only songs I'm not rocking with is folding clothes. Other than that I would say this is up there with FHD to me.
Basically if you don't like Cole this album won't make you a fan and if you are a fan than you are probably liking the album.
Lyrically though this is probably the sharpest he has ever been. Only weak point is that Cole insists on singing all his choruses. Some hooks would definitely benefit from an actual singer.
Only songs I'm not rocking with is folding clothes. Other than that I would say this is up there with FHD to me.
Basically if you don't like Cole this album won't make you a fan and if you are a fan than you are probably liking the album.
Lyrically though this is probably the sharpest he has ever been. Only weak point is that Cole insists on singing all his choruses. Some hooks would definitely benefit from an actual singer.
DJ Mustard ft. RJ - Main Bitch. Heater and prob the best song off of Cold Summer. Wanna hear more from this RJ from his features.
Africa Bambaata - Planet Rock (KAYTRANADA Remix).
The Roots, Joell Ortiz & Busta Rhymes - My Shot live on Fallon. Off the Hamilton Mixtape.
Yasiin Bey premieres new music at Art Basel. Says his last shows will be at the Apollo and Kennedy Centre in washington. Also Dec 99th album comes out today.
Africa Bambaata - Planet Rock (KAYTRANADA Remix).
The Roots, Joell Ortiz & Busta Rhymes - My Shot live on Fallon. Off the Hamilton Mixtape.
Yasiin Bey premieres new music at Art Basel. Says his last shows will be at the Apollo and Kennedy Centre in washington. Also Dec 99th album comes out today.
Storm Chamber
Banned
So apparently J. Cole put out another weedplate and Soul somewhat got his swagger back.
Hmm
Hmm
richardhawk
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Views is a great album that yall gonna be talking about in a few years. You cowards aint sensitive enough for it yet.
This man drinks Almond milk
I wonder if most of the people bashing Cole know that he dropped a concept album.
The whole album is a time capsule from a drug dealer, left for his daughter. Cole is just talking as him for the whole album, until the title track where he says his dealer friend who died asked him to tell his story so that his daughter could hear it.
torre_avenue
Banned
Nah. The last album from Drake the artist was "Nothing Was The Same."
VIEWS is just a melange of culture-vultured ideas and pop sensibilities. Views a year before it released must have been more grime-centric, a year before that a minor evolution of the Toronto sound Drake's been "pioneering" for years. Drake's aimless and has no real vision for what he wants his sound to be like, all he does know is what he wants the Drake brand to represent: pop domination.
Whoa breh, take a step back. I'm up is nowhere close to the other two. It's gonna be tough for me to decide which I want between SS3 and JEFFERY on my list. I'd like to keep it at one per artist, but both were truly phenomenal.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
I like the concept in the Cole album. I didn't even catch that it was a concept album until the last couple tracks.
Damn, Cole put out a decent album.
Immortal,Neighbors,4YEO,Change are my highlights. The Deja Vu track is probably the worst because I instantly think of the Bryson Tiller song.
Like someone said above, definitely the sharpest Cole has been lyrically in a minute, gets a but pedantic but it doesnt hurt it too much.
Buuuuuut
That "dont believe in santa" shit on shes mine pt.2 made me roll my eyes hard af
Damn, Cole put out a decent album.
Immortal,Neighbors,4YEO,Change are my highlights. The Deja Vu track is probably the worst because I instantly think of the Bryson Tiller song.
Like someone said above, definitely the sharpest Cole has been lyrically in a minute, gets a but pedantic but it doesnt hurt it too much.
Buuuuuut
That "dont believe in santa" shit on shes mine pt.2 made me roll my eyes hard af
Team Jones
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J. Cole, just like Frank Ocean, benefits greatly from the fact people will give the album more than one spin before judging... and partially due to the general nature of repetition you'll begin to appreciate the music.
the album is cool.
I enjoyed J. Cole '4 Your Eyez Only' more after the initial spin.
the album is cool.
I enjoyed J. Cole '4 Your Eyez Only' more after the initial spin.
Psychological Intellect
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Neither single are on the album.
Yup
richardhawk
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Cashew milk. We off that almond shit.
WOAT part of VIEWS-era Drake is him fueling and creating a caricature of the "Toronto" accent, which pretty much started and continues as a wannabe-Jamaican thing, which is kind of fitting. Now it's gone overboard from people I know.
The project itself.. IDK. I don't even think aping other styles is the main issue with it. I've warmed up to it a bit since release, but the songs just aren't that good overall. Keep the Family Close, U With Me, Feel No Ways, Weston Road Flows, Redemption, Too Good, and Fire & Desire are pretty true to Drake's style (though even that has it's obv influences), the rest is jumbled and shameless, but even some of those make for some of the better songs on the album (Controlla/Pop Style).
The project itself.. IDK. I don't even think aping other styles is the main issue with it. I've warmed up to it a bit since release, but the songs just aren't that good overall. Keep the Family Close, U With Me, Feel No Ways, Weston Road Flows, Redemption, Too Good, and Fire & Desire are pretty true to Drake's style (though even that has it's obv influences), the rest is jumbled and shameless, but even some of those make for some of the better songs on the album (Controlla/Pop Style).
Agreed. Aping other styles has never been something I care about with music from any artist, if it sounds good it sounds good. I just don't think the songs are that good on Views. A few are pretty great imo, like Feel No Ways, but as an album (an 81 minute album no less) it's not very replayable for me. And this is coming from a pretty huge Drake fan.
That's kind of what he is tbh. Just with cornrows instead of the cowboy hat.
I can't deny that his whole image and persona feels artificial at times and some of his lyrics are corny, but he can write a nice melody and usually has pretty good production.
There are some definitely some misses on Stoney, but overall I think it's dope.
DangerStepp
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Born Sinner was awful, dumped J. Cole.
Skipped FHD.
Gave him a chance because I thought 'False Prophets' was good.
Listened to 4 Your Eyez Only.
Nope. Putting J. Cole back in the tank.
Skipped FHD.
Gave him a chance because I thought 'False Prophets' was good.
Listened to 4 Your Eyez Only.
Nope. Putting J. Cole back in the tank.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Controlla is probably my favorite single released this year. I thought Views was an average album but there was plenty of good stuff on it. With You is a sleeper for me.
bobbychalkers
Member
I wasn't hyped for new Ab-Soul but that line hit.
theignoramus
Member
4 Your Eyez Only is gunna be used at a lot of wedding receptions. It has that "floating on air" vibe to the production and the thematic content to match a wedding's atmosphere.
DangerStepp
Member
It could be and it's a neat concept.
Too bad the music and everything surrounding it isn't that great.
Too bad the music and everything surrounding it isn't that great.
bobbychalkers
Member
Ab-Soul's craft is definitely much better on this new album but I'm increasingly not a fan of conspiracy brother raps the older I get. 17 year old bobbychalkers would have loved it.
I like the album but I think this is Cole's biggest fault.
Whether in arrogance or just unaware of criticisms, Cole's albums could be much better if he had outside help.
With these last two albums Cole seems like he is trying to come off as a discount Lupe Fiasco. He wants to make these artistic "raw" projects but can't seem to fit everything together. The concepts are there, the lyrics are there, but the production is weak and the singing is poor.
I still think his latest project is solid but I definitely can understand lots of the criticisms people have about it.
Andrew Korenchkin
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VIEWS still has a slew of keepers, yeah.
For me:
U With Me?
Controlla
Pop Style (Remix)
Fire & Desire
What I really want from Drake is just an album full of U With Me?s and Fire & Desires. Won't stop him doing all the more upbeat/hype/trap/party singles like 0-100, just give me a cohesive project.
For me:
U With Me?
Controlla
Pop Style (Remix)
Fire & Desire
What I really want from Drake is just an album full of U With Me?s and Fire & Desires. Won't stop him doing all the more upbeat/hype/trap/party singles like 0-100, just give me a cohesive project.
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