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GAF Madden 2005 Season 2 Online League: Because Halo 2 can't last forever!

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Matrix said:
"Oh yeah you also have to press up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, B, A, start while the game is loading for 100% knockdown. "

:lol

I'm sorry if you felt what I did was cheese,but I didnt run the same play Mig posted,I didnt even have a hb in to block.I didnt run that play at all after you said it was cheese,I'm not going to try to win by cheesing it up if someone says a certain play is wrong.Ive ran that play countless times against other people and no ones said anything to me.I only took it to heart because you were beating me and then I felt after you said that I couldnt play the way I was used to playing.

I'm sooo over this and I dont want you to change your style of play if its successful for you.I'm actually happy this is out in the open,atleast now im 100% sure on what can and cant be used.

Well if it makes you feel any better I had been practicing for this game since you whooped me so thoroughly earlier in the season.

*Hugs Matrix*

*Music swells*

*End Full House moment*
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
:lol :lol :lol
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
HG, when do you want to play? It has to be today or tomorrow, Wednesday I am going to a college bowl game.
 
gg ramirez

i knew i was in trouble when it was raining :(


this game reminded me an awful lot of my 70-58 game with fifty. i would work my way downfield, converting 3rd downs, getting timely runs and passes and get a score. then fifty would get a 1 play drive for 80 yards. that's what happened here. ramirez got probably about 24 points off turnovers (maybe 17) and then somehow my guys would just miss dunn and he would get a 60+ yarder. i stayed in the ballgame pretty well and vick was a nonfactor (give or take).

i must have fumbled about 8 times in this game also. rain + hitstick = not good! don't worry ramirez, you'll lose in the playoffs. you know you played the perfect game and i still could have taken it. next time i will!
 

Mrbob

Member
Yeah, I'm surprised at how elusive Dunn is in this game. While attempting to tackle, my players slide off of him like he is covered in butter.

I get one more regular season shot at you next, Ramirez! Will it be revenge?! Or another beat down? Probably a beat down my defensive players are horrible. Playing Gunstar I've finally noticing the difference between a mediocre and good defense. In our game I attempted to do a lob pass over his linebacker to my running back and his linebacker was granted the touch of god for that play and jumped like 15 feet into the air to grab an INT. My linebackers can't even attempt to knock the ball down one foot in front much less go for an interception (Those super jumps in the game need to be toned down. Oh hey my receiver is open oh shit a linebacker from 20 yards away just made an amazing dive to knock the ball down! If you have a highly rated D it is way too easy for them to make amazing leaps to knock down passes. I hope Tiburon addresses this issue for Madden 2006.). Or my cornerback will actually tip a pass into the safeties hands and he'll bobble it and drop a potential INT. The awareness level is so poor for this defense I refuse to take another team in season 3 with such a bad D! :lol
 

Fifty

Member
Mrbob said:
Yeah, I'm surprised at how elusive Dunn is in this game. While attempting to tackle, my players slide off of him like he is covered in butter.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm. New Buttery Dunn Chicken. Double the butter, double the touchdowns!
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Mrbob said:
Yeah, I'm surprised at how elusive Dunn is in this game. While attempting to tackle, my players slide off of him like he is covered in butter.

I get one more regular season shot at you next, Ramirez! Will it be revenge?! Or another beat down? Probably a beat down my defensive players are horrible. Playing Gunstar I've finally noticing the difference between a mediocre and good defense. In our game I attempted to do a lob pass over his linebacker to my running back and his linebacker was granted the touch of god for that play and jumped like 15 feet into the air to grab an INT. My linebackers can't even attempt to knock the ball down one foot in front much less go for an interception (Those super jumps in the game need to be toned down. Oh hey my receiver is open oh shit a linebacker from 20 yards away just made an amazing dive to knock the ball down! If you have a highly rated D it is way too easy for them to make amazing leaps to knock down passes. I hope Tiburon addresses this issue for Madden 2006.). Or my cornerback will actually tip a pass into the safeties hands and he'll bobble it and drop a potential INT. The awareness level is so poor for this defense I refuse to take another team in season 3 with such a bad D! :lol

:lol

Suck it down Bears fan! Must feel good to have an offense though. All those dropped passes must have sucked, but you at least have the incredible Bears blocking.
 

Mrbob

Member
:lol

Yeah, I have an offense, but at the cost of additional turnovers. I think my offense with the Bears was more productive overall, even with less numbers, because I didn't turn the ball over as much. The Rams offensive line is pretty bad too. The guards or tackles can't hold their blocks worth a damn allowing plays to only get like 2-3 yards when they should be going for 20+. It forces me to pass more which leads to more turnovers. But I gotta make do with what I have, which isn't much. :lol I got some ideas for teams to take for season 3 and I can guarantee you one thing. It won't be the Rams! :lol
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I miss the run and gun style of the Texans :( well more gun then run.
 

Mrbob

Member
You want to trade teams Matrix? You can run and gun all you want with the Rams! :lol It works great if you can get a ton of 20+ yard TD passes. But once you get in the red zone you need a running game and that Rams Oline just can't hold up! I've decided I'd rather go more defensive than offensive for season 3. The Rams are a nice experiment to try an offensive minded team but I really don't like them. :lol
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Man I disagree with you Bob. I played as the Rams on Sunday trying to fill in the requirement for the team usage trophy and their o-line holds up pretty damned well, in my opinion. You just got too used to the uber blocking from the Bears!

I lost because of some punt block shit, argh! I couldn't get one off he was timing the run in so well. Fuckin bastard!
 

Mrbob

Member
Yeah but your D sucks though I don't know what Matrix and DM are crying about.:lol I can shred your D like butta with the Bears offense! I got your number in this game like FMT has mine! :/
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Mrbob said:
Yeah but your D sucks though I don't know what Matrix and DM are crying about.:lol I can shred your D like butta with the Bears offense! I got your number in this game like FMT has mine! :/

Bears O > Ravens O in madden
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.

Fifty

Member
Matrix said:
Bears O > Ravens O in madden
That's not true! I hate to give you tips, but nobody insults the Ravens offense like that :( You're still in Texans mode...you rely on the Ravens WRs too much. Pass to Heap and to Chester Taylor, and run all the time, with varying plays using Jamal. He has the highest break tackle rating in the game, and that alone is enough to get him 100+ yards a game, easily.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Fifty said:
That's not true! I hate to give you tips, but nobody insults the Ravens offense like that :( You're still in Texans mode...you rely on the Ravens WRs too much. Pass to Heap and to Chester Taylor, and run all the time, with varying plays using Jamal. He has the highest break tackle rating in the game, and that alone is enough to get him 100+ yards a game, easily.


How boring :p I guess I'll use those tips against CK next time and other people I play,I'll stick to Texans mode against you .....cause it works :p
 

Fifty

Member
Matrix said:
How boring :p I guess I'll use those tips against CK next time and other people I play,I'll stick to Texans mode against you .....cause it works :p


If you use 4 wide all game against me next time we play, and just win by passing streaks with kyle boller, I'll kill you. Please do that in your next league game.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Fifty said:
If you use 4 wide all game against me next time we play, and just win by passing streaks with kyle boller, I'll kill you. Please do that in your next league game.

:lol Thing is I run in league games against you,atleast I think I do.

I think that game against CK was the first time this season where I didnt run and it backfired.
 

Fifty

Member
My computer is fucked up...my xbox is fucked up. The last thing I want is an average game that hardly anyone is playing ;p
 

Fifty

Member
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I fixed my computer (Don't ask me how, or even what was wrong) and I'm back online fully now. I blame EA!!! But I have found the cure baby
 
guys, let me know what you think about the following rule. here is the playoff system we CHOSE to have in place when we created the league:

Playoff teams per conference: 3 Teams - 2 division Winners, and 1 wild card


However, EA has a glitch in the system that makes the playoff system as follows:

Playoff teams per conference: 4 Teams - Division winners and 2 wild cards


this kills competition. Bob could feasibly lose the rest of his games, finish 3-13, and get into the playoffs. also, over in the other conference, fifty/ck/matrix dont even have to PLAY their remaining games, they are likely all in by default. so what i wanted to do is run the playoffs outside of EA's "leagues". we know who should be where, and we will just play exhibition games and keep track of the results. we had to do it in season 1 cause EA literally erased our league when the playoffs started.

let me know what you guys think, it's up to all of you
 

Fifty

Member
That is the best way to do it. One wildcard per conference. I don't really need to say why, since you've hit it on the head.

Also, Bob has a chance at catching Gunstar (since we have 7 games left and he's 3 games back) so there is still competition in his conference.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
Matrix said:
How boring :p I guess I'll use those tips against CK next time and other people I play,I'll stick to Texans mode against you .....cause it works :p

:lol

You actually did do that though. You ran around the backfield for a good five or six seconds, then playmakered Heap or whoever the main target was on that play, then you would fire it and Heap would actually catch it between or over my defenders.

My gameplan for you was as follows, worked on over the course of what, like 2.5 weeks or so... And actually, you helped me.

On defense, no blitzes, stay in 4-3 (not over), or 3-4, Nickel Strong if you started running weak side. Play only 2 Man under in 4-3, or the play that's assigned to X on 3-4 (forgot what it's called). If I recalled correctly, and I did, you would only ever run inside on the weak side, on the strong side you looped all the way around and tried to get to the outside whether it was designed or not. Every play I audibled motion to the right with my line because my RE would hit the gap you would potentially run into on a weak side run, and Strahan would hit the outside on a strong side run. I would overload the weak side as Strahan has a high tackle/strength rating and when I get there I would be able to make the tackle. Also, you have Jonathan Ogden on your weak side (Why the fuck do you not run in his direction), so I would need the extra help there. No blitzes because I wanted everyone back in position to be able to make their tackles if I needed it. If you recall that play in which you broke a 76 yarder in the first game was a blitz in which two guys (Lineman and an LB) bounced of Jamal. My safety was out of position.

I was not afraid of Bollers arm, nor of the Ravens WRs, and I felt that my DBs could handle them. Other than the deep outside post plays, they did. My only problem came with Heap. I did not want to double him because my safety would be out of position, I did not want to bump him for fear of him getting off the line a little too well with no protection, and I did not want to stick a DB on him because I wanted an LB in to make the tackle (with the exception of the 2nd and long and 3rd and mid range nickel strong calls) on Lewis if needed. I took the risk, believing that whatever pass rush I could generate would fuck Boller up enough to keep me out of trouble.

On offense, in the first game, your LBs shot the gap ridiculously well. So i did something I started doing with Fifty, and that was a lot of misdirection, and a lot of FB runs straight into the gaps. I started the game with an FB run from the strong I formation into the strong side of your defense, where Ray Lewis was parked. I believe I got four yards off the carry as my O-Line opened a colossal hole, which after all the practice I had put in, I knew they would. Next play, I formation, I think the play is called HB Blast. The play is designed to go between your DT and LE, so the FB would lead block right into that LB shooting the gap. I think you were in 4-3, Shockey picked up the other linebacker, and since you were so bump happy in the first game, I knew you would be the same way here too, so I ran right near your CB, which could not get off the block from Toomer. I used the same play about 60% of the time I called a run. Mixing it in with more FB runs to keep you honest to the inside and to the weak side. Knowing that you like to take control of your players to make the tackles also helped me. Barber is an elusive back and on that one 33 yard TD, you took control of Ed Reed, I juked to the outside and you could not make it to me in time. I tried to run at Ray Lewis to make you miss, but him being the MLB was a problem, as with Barber, I did not want to run into the middle on that defense. I wanted to run to set up the play action pass.

In terms of passing, you bump a lot on passing downs, and you control a linebacker, meaning you leave either my FB or my RB open. More often than not I held both of them in (I mostly passed with the two of them in the backfield for protection) to block. DM mentioned that to beat the bump I could avoid the pass rush and hit my WRs when they come off of it for a big gain. So I practiced all week with Eli in the pocket presence drill, and I would play in practice mode with an all out blitz and a bump with a certain three pass plays. Yes, three pass plays. One play action, one 10+ yarder, and one mid range slant. My first passing TD, you bumped Hilliard, I waited, he got off of it and was open behind your CB and off your safety about 15 yards, so i gunned it right at him. Same thing late on with Toomer on the other end of the field.

Now this is my ace, this is where I had you beat. You always left either my RB or FB open, and then you always audibled your DBs to move in front of whoever hey were defending in man coverage... however, the LB you controlled never moved in front of his responsibility. It's how I got that last TD, it was also the long run off of a swing pass to Barber in which I accidently ran out of bounds. Of course, I held the other back in to block whoever shot the gap.

My entire gameplan hinged on jumping out to an early lead and keeping it. You helped me by kicking off to me. 7-0, 14-0, 14-3, 21-3. My defense was a bit open to being passed on, admittedly, but my offensive gameplan was so incredibly sound that all I would need is a stop or two and I would be sitting pretty. I wanted you too pass and beat me with the pass after falling behind. The only thing that ever did stop me were those stupid ints I threw. I did not count on McAllister and Lewis having such sticky fingers. I went 8 of 9 in terms of third down conversions, only one I missed was an int. I had no punts. 213 yards on 38 carries (Tiki had 176 yards on 25 carries) and I passing game got me into some trouble, but actually moved the ball. I never once lost sight of my gameplan and got pass happy, even when I went down 31-21. Had I done so I would have easily lost.

I hope that clarifies exactly what I did and exactly how I did it. For those wondering, I get even more comprehensive with people I play more often. I've got a lot of info on DM, a lot on Dskillz since I play them most of all. Yes, I go ridiculously overboard in my preparation for some games. I just lose due to my execution.
 

Fifty

Member
Wellington said:
Also, you have Jonathan Ogden on your weak side (Why the fuck do you not run in his direction), so I would need the extra help there.

I'd love to know that. Choosing Orlando Brown to run behind is suicide. Ogden may miss a block or two because of a glitch, but he's the best tackle in the game
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Like I said before guys,I play stupid when I get angry..Fifty you of all people should know that.I'll stick to one stupid thing and keep repeating it over and over,I think its a glitch in my head :p

Now I really have to change my gameplan..I had no idea Ck took notes :(
 

hgplayer1

Member
dskillzhtown said:
HG, are you around???

my Xbox situation is still the same as it was a few days ago. Im without one and I was borrowing my cousins over the weekend but then my internet crapped out. tonight I was over at his house playing Halo with him and his son and my brother. they got a few new games for Christmas so I took it back to him so they could play them. Im not sure if Ill be able to borrow it to try to get my next few games in but Ill see what I can do. look for me tomorrow starting at around 7PM CST. Ill post here if Im not able to get the Xbox.
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
FrenchMovieTheme said:
can we possibly ban the atlanta falcons in season 3? :D


No. But we can all agree that I should have them. I'm not anywhere near the threat that Ram is with them. :D

I can't believe Wellie takes notes. Wow. Once again it is proven that my wins are all flukes. :lol. I've learned a ton this season though. But it might take me years to catch up to some players understanding of the game.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
guys, let me know what you think about the following rule.

*snip*

let me know what you guys think, it's up to all of you

So does this mean I can be in the playoffs FMT? :)

P.S. The check is in the mail.

If anyone is around today and wants to scrimmage, let me know.
 

hgplayer1

Member
dskillz, update on my Xbox situation. UPS is showing a delivery date of 12/29 so theres a good chance that Ill have it tomorrow before I get off of work. I could still attempt to borrow my cousins for tonight and maybe even play from his house but the timing would be really up in the air.

it looks like the deadline is the 29th at 8PM CST? is that correct? thats what I get from the email. if thats right then we could for sure play tomorrow between 6 and 8 CST if thats good for you AND if I have my new Xbox.

lets try this for tonight, give me a time to meet you. preferably at the top of the hour. Ill ask my cousin if I can either borrow his Xbox tonight or go to his house and play our game. I dont think it will be a problem borrowing it as long as I can tell him a little bit ahead of time.

I hope we can get this done and I apologize for being a big pain in the ass. :D
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
We can try tonight, but tomorrow is a no go for me. I am going the Houston Bowl. So anytime tonight/today is good for me.
 

Fifty

Member
Slo said:
Man, I've really got the fever. I can't wait for season 3.


If you play your cards right you might get the Colts. Odds are against it though, unless I win the championship and decide to give them to you.

In season 3 we're going to be using season 2's method of picking teams, which worked very well.

- Champion has the option of keeping their team

- Worst returning player (record-wise) has the first pick of a team, and so on

- New players pick after all returning players have picked (how order is decided is up in the air. Ideas are appreciated)
 

hgplayer1

Member
dskillzhtown said:
We can try tonight, but tomorrow is a no go for me. I am going the Houston Bowl. So anytime tonight/today is good for me.

ok its looking like I wont be able to get on during the early part of the evening but Im sure I should be able to at some point tonight. how does 8 CST sound?
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
hgplayer1 said:
ok its looking like I wont be able to get on during the early part of the evening but Im sure I should be able to at some point tonight. how does 8 CST sound?


8 tonight is fine. I'll see you in the lobby.
 

Mrbob

Member
FrenchMovieTheme said:
guys, let me know what you think about the following rule. here is the playoff system we CHOSE to have in place when we created the league:

Playoff teams per conference: 3 Teams - 2 division Winners, and 1 wild card


However, EA has a glitch in the system that makes the playoff system as follows:

Playoff teams per conference: 4 Teams - Division winners and 2 wild cards


this kills competition. Bob could feasibly lose the rest of his games, finish 3-13, and get into the playoffs. also, over in the other conference, fifty/ck/matrix dont even have to PLAY their remaining games, they are likely all in by default. so what i wanted to do is run the playoffs outside of EA's "leagues". we know who should be where, and we will just play exhibition games and keep track of the results. we had to do it in season 1 cause EA literally erased our league when the playoffs started.

let me know what you guys think, it's up to all of you

Translation: "I'm scared to play Bob in the first round! Oh please guys pleaaaase pleeease plleeeeasse spare me the horror of getting a beat down in the first round!!!"

I know your aura of invincibility went away when I beat you, but I didn't know you were this scared to play me!! :lol
 
i wasn't the one who brough it up buddy boy :D



plus, if you were a legit player, you would be able to catch gunstar. you know, i know, this whole board knows, that i will stomp you in the playoffs just like i always do. the thing that comes into question is why should you get a proverbial free pass to the playoffs? i don't mind either way to be honest with you. while allowing only 1 wildcard would make for a more competitive conference on the other side, our conference goes into non-competition pretty easily because of it. either way dudes!
 

Mrbob

Member
Well, I say we ride it out this year and any playoff changes need to be implemented for season 3. I'd actually argue the NFC factor in this case! It always extra competition for those of us lower in the standings to still play. If you want to implement one wild card you might as well just give the games away that me, DJ, and True play from now on as we are too far back.

Besides, it may take me almost a full season to get comfortable with the RAMS. If you really are any good you would make mince meat of me in the first round (If I make it) like you claim. You're just running scared 'cause you know I can beat you! That's ok though, you can hide behind the facade that only the teams with elite records should make it. Just makes it all the more apparent you don't want to play me in the first round. :D
 
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