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GAF Post-Election Country Jamboree Bitchfest Catch-All Thread O' Doom

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Matt

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Well, since this travesty is now mostly over, lets talk about who it might be next time around, for both the Dems and the Republicans.

Richardson, anyone?
 
Scratch off Hillary, just not gonna happen.

Obama is looking like a good bet to be the running mate. He's gonna need some experience before he can run the big ticket.
 

Insertia

Member
Hillary? jeez, i hope the democratic party has enough brains not to put her on the ticket. That's a certified lose.
 

All Hail C-Webb

Hailing from the Chill-Web
Chuck Schumer would make for the best presiden of all time.
I would like to see Giuliani run in 2008 and then have Schumer take over in 2016, but that is a long way away.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
Sal Paradise Jr said:
Scratch off Hillary, just not gonna happen.

Obama is looking like a good bet to be the running mate. He's gonna need some experience before he can run the big ticket.
even if she is still hesitant then (which I don't believe she will be) the democrats will push for it. She is the "ideal" democrat and unless the Republicans DO run Arnold (after ammending the constitution) there is no Republican that can beat her.
 

ManaByte

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akascream said:
I'd like to see a real leader in the white house. I nominate Rudy Giuliani.

If Arnold can run, he'll win. He's like the ultimate combination of the popular moderate Republican and a Kennedy. People in California follow him, which is why so many things on the ballot that he supported passed.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
Insertia said:
Hillary? jeez, i hope the democratic party has enough brains not to put her on the ticket. That's a certified lose.
umm.. quite the opposite actually.

now note that I'm not endorsing any of this, but discounting it is ridiculous.

she is popular. she is married to arguably one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

She has the liberated woman thing down pat.

She has the "wronged" house wife thing down pat WITHOUT diminishing her "family values" appeal (don't ask me how the fuck that works).

She will convert millions of conservative women votes.

It would be almost solely a popularity contest, but one that unless she had another "superstar" as her opponent, she would win handedly.

as for obama, while he is black, I don't think he would have as good a shot as hillary. his name just isn't out there. The only recent chance we had at a black president was Powell. For the meantime it will just have to wait.
 

Kola

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Although I don't care that much about US politics, I gotta say that at the next election something has to be done about the influence of religion in America. When I look at the media in my country even the TV stations which used to be quite objective and calm about Bush and co are talking about the USA sooner or later becoming a "christian-fundamentalist"-country. It's scary, especially after reading news articles about Bush, who's "believing in faith" and the like.

Religion of any kind is a killer for all attempts of reasonable politics in every nation. I'm only excluding Buddhism here, although you've got to admit that Buddhism is not a "real" religion.

The last thing I heard Bush has 3,5 million votes more than Kerry. Three-and-a-half million people! Dear "God"!
 

Dilbert

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Isn't anyone paying attention to who votes Republican? Since they just proved they wouldn't vote for a white male with a history of military and government service...what makes you think that they would possibly vote for a WOMAN or a BLACK MAN?
 
Cheney? No way.

As said before, Obama is needing experience right now, it would be too soon. But Obama as a running mate is certainly possible.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
-jinx- said:
Isn't anyone paying attention to who votes Republican? Since they just proved they wouldn't vote for a white male with a history of military and government service...what makes you think that they would possibly vote for a WOMAN or a BLACK MAN?
there are more women voters in this country than men I believe. women would vote fort a woman, it's what they do.

Black I agree with. They would essentially need to be a "superhero" to win. I'm not racist, this isn't how I personally feel, I'm just calling it like I see it.

So no, no man in his right mind would probably vote for hillary, but the women would.
 

Phoenix

Member
Docpan said:
Vote for Arnold +1

Not a campaign promise, platform, or voting record and you'd vote for him. Good job, you are a perfect case for why a pure popular vote system should never happen.
 

Ristamar

Member
Relating to the Hillary vs. Obama issue, do you think this country will see a female president before a black president?
 

Brendonia

"Edge stole Big Ben's helmet"
Hopefully McCain will run, that would get my vote. I'm a democrat but there's no way in hell I'd vote for Hillary. I severely dislike her and find her very scary actually. If I had to guess right now I'd say Edwards/Obama or Hillary/someone vs. McCain/someone.

I think McCain would win the election if he could get the nomination. He's only slightly right and has respect from everyone. I can't believe Bush beat him 4 years ago in the primaries.
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
How about 20 more years of Bush?

Jeb Bush follows with 8 years after George W. Bush's next 4. Then George P. Bush gets elected for another 8?
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
borghe said:
So no, no man in his right mind would probably vote for hillary, but the women would.

plenty of men would vote for hillary, i'm sure of it. I think she'd win the election quite easily, especially coming out of a second Bush term. Republicans like to play it down and dismiss the possibility (perhaps in the hopes it'll never happen if they ridicule the idea enough?), but in all honesty, they know she has *high* potential.
 

Azih

Member
She's much easier to villify in the 'morals are everything' demographic than Kerry ever was, and that's the segment that gave Bush the win.
 

Dilbert

Member
gofreak said:
plenty of men would vote for hillary, i'm sure of it. I think she'd win the election quite easily, especially coming out of a second Bush term. Republicans like to play it down and dismiss the possibility (perhaps in the hopes it'll never happen if they ridicule the idea enough?), but in all honesty, they know she has *high* potential.
In what way is she immune to the same kinds of attacks that brought down Kerry? Isn't she just another "ultra-leftist Northeast liberal?" And, for bonus demerits, she is a) a woman and b) married to the single most hated man by the right.

If you don't think Karl Rove doesn't have a phonebook-sized set of attacks against her in mind, you're crazy.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
gofreak said:
plenty of men would vote for hillary, i'm sure of it. I think she'd win the election quite easily, especially coming out of a second Bush term. Republicans like to play it down and dismiss the possibility (perhaps in the hopes it'll never happen if they ridicule the idea enough?), but in all honesty, they know she has *high* potential.
eh, I was mostly being facetious.. yes many men would vote for her, and without an equally high profile opponent (of which NONE currently exist) she would win the presidency easily. Though probably not as large as say Reagan vs. Mondale..
 

Ristamar

Member
Brendonia said:
I think McCain would win the election if he could get the nomination. He's only slightly right and has respect from everyone. I can't believe Bush beat him 4 years ago in the primaries.

It's amazing what an effective smear campaign can accomplish.
 

fennec fox

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Kola said:
Although I don't care that much about US politics, I gotta say that at the next election something has to be done about the influence of religion in America. When I look at the media in my country even the TV stations which used to be quite objective and calm about Bush and co are talking about the USA sooner or later becoming a "christian-fundamentalist"-country. It's scary, especially after reading news articles about Bush, who's "believing in faith" and the like.
Could it be the TV stations' perspective of the US that has changed more than the US really has? Faith-based political appeals are a long-standing part of history in this country.
 

Kuroyume

Banned
People are actually trying to move to Canada? I thought it was just a stupid joke. I'm not depressed, just disgusted.
 
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