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[LaunchpadMcQ]

*targets self*

*blocks self*

It wasn't in my role PM and I specifically asked Retro. He ok'd it.

Except that Bronx was actually at your table for a good chunk of D3, before I pulled the fire alarm, and after people had vouched for him

...still struggling with the table thing, huh?

The player needs to be at my table during the night phase. Even if I could have targeted him, I didn't put in any actions before the fire alarm was pulled. Thanks for that.

 

[CzarTim]

It wasn't in my role PM and I specifically asked Retro. He ok'd it.

I don't believe that for a second.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I don't believe that for a second.

OK.

 

[SalvaPot]

I don't believe that for a second.

He didn't let kingkitty self-douse, I doubt he will let launch self-protect.

 

[Ourobolus]

Ok, putting aside the rest of this claim

Spoiler

totally called a jailor, thanks Salva/Camjo

, the idea of a jailor that can self target is ridiculous.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

wow, fuck you guys at leaving myself one shred of information to protect myself with. Fine, I can't self-target. Lynch me or don't, I'm dead tonight anyway.

 

[Ourobolus]

Whoops. Already covered. That's what I get for not refreshing.

 

[SalvaPot]

wow, fuck you guys at leaving myself one shred of information to protect myself with. Fine, I can't self-target. Lynch me or don't, I'm dead tonight anyway.

Since the very start you played this game for YOU to survive not for TOWN to win.

Excuse us for calling you up on all of your bullshit.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Since the very start you played this game for YOU to survive not for TOWN to win.

Excuse us for calling you up on all of your bullshit.

Don't give me that shit. You know that the jailor is an important role that you should try to keep around as long as possible.

 

[CzarTim]

Don't give me that shit. You know that the jailor is an important role that you should try to keep around as long as possible.

Not at the expense of confusing everyone else? This is a team game.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

You guys are really making me feel like shit

 

[Xamtheking]

Don't give me that shit. You know that the jailor is an important role that you should try to keep around as long as possible.

Doctors aren't going to protect Jailors that haven't claimed, and especially won't protect those who have claimed to use a 1-shot

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Not at the expense of confusing everyone else? This is a team game.

One night of confusion? Really? That's a big deal?

Doctors aren't going to protect Jailors that haven't claimed, and especially won't protect those who have claimed to use a 1-shot

Because scum won't target me.

 

[SalvaPot]

Don't give me that shit. You know that the jailor is an important role that you should try to keep around as long as possible.

Sure, but do you honestly believe your power play on day 1 did more good than harm? If you had to made a roleclaim, why make it such it fucks over town far more than scum?

You are claiming this early because you want to earn back the goodwill you destroyed when running all of that stuff before. We could have easily lynch you on day 1 with that claim you did, since you where pretty much useless by that point for town. There is so many other ways you could have sticked around.

Also, what do you have to show for it? Ty4on?

 

[Xamtheking]

You guys are really making me feel like shit

Dude
Your "role claim" is cut-and-paste from PW when a scum TheGoddamn claimed town watcher/tracker
Let's run through the list
bread crumbs that are intentionally easy to miss: check
night actions that perfectly correlate with the narrative so far: check
absolutely no concrete proof that you've done anything you say: check

 

[SalvaPot]

You guys are really making me feel like shit

Sorry for that, don't feel bad, its just a game and I am honestly not heated up, to be honest I find it kind of hilarious and worthy of the very best/worst gambits of mafia, but right now I have to rip through it because, dude, what where you expecting.

 

[Xamtheking]

For fuck's sake, anyone can easily breadcrumb anything they want to. It's not really difficult to do, honestly.

 

[Xamtheking]

This play is more anti-town than what I do
And that's saying something

 

[SalvaPot]

For fuck's sake, anyone can easily breadcrumb anything they want to. It's not really difficult to do, honestly.

I don't, because I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNIMATION you should be watching.

 

[Xamtheking]

I don't, because I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNIMATION you should be watching.

salva are you Yeeny, the true Anime Waifu?

 

[AbsolutBro]

You guys are really making me feel like shit

FWIW, even though you tried to kill me, I believe you. I remember being a role cop in the DR game and having to come up with a fake claim.

Unless Fireblend ends up being scum, in which case you'll get a second look.

 

[Kevyt]

You guys are really making me feel like shit

I know the feel bro

It's okay, it's just a game. Try to have fun and don't take things too personal.

This is gafia...

 

[Xamtheking]

I know the feel bro

It's okay, it's just a game. Try to have fun and don't take things too personal.

This is gafia...

I don't care about how scum feels
Except if the scum is Sorian
Then I want them to receive hugs

 

[CzarTim]

Ok, larger question.

Who thinks Ty is scum? I've been town reading him.

But working through the scenario here, what's scum launches play here? Get us to test him with a lynch and waste a day?

 

[SalvaPot]

salva are you Yeeny, the true Anime Waifu?

Yes, I can also switch two tables WITH MY NEKO EARS. #Breadcrumbs

But moving on, the main reason why I don't buy Launch's claim is because of the scramble Retro does every time between Night and Day.

Remember we didn't know this was mechanic until Night 1, so on day 1 the fact that he lied about the switch would become painfully obvious on Day 2, effectively making his rolecalim incredibly unsafe. So he HAD to:

1) Be telling the truth about his role.

or

2)Know Retro was going to scramble the tables at the phase transition.

 

[Kevyt]

And the other thing would be, if Launch flips, should we look into Ty4on?

Also yes, I'd hug Sorian all day every day. :3

 

[Xamtheking]

And the other thing would be, if Launch flips, should we look into Ty4on?

Also yes, I'd hug Sorian all day every day. :3

you didn't attempt to do anything n1, right?

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

Ok, larger question.

Who thinks Ty is scum? I've been town reading him.

But working through the scenario here, what's scum launches play here? Get us to test him with a lynch and waste a day?

To be honest I've been flip flopping on him.

 

[Kevyt]

you didn't attempt to do anything n1, right?

Other than plan world domination and further the gay agenda?

Nope.

 

[Xamtheking]

plan world domination

You're a fucking mons-

further the gay agenda

carry on

 

[CzarTim]

Running through scenario:

A) Scum-Launch / Town-Ty: Launch trying to get us to mislynch? Maybe I was right and he is a lynch bomb.

B) Scum-Launch / Scum-Ty: Launch knows he's a goner here so tries to clear a buddy on the way out.

C) Town-Launch / Scum-Ty: Launch caught scum red-handed.

D) Town-Launch / Town-Ty: Scum tried to kill Ty last night or something else happened to the kill?

My problem with D is Ty claimed ordinary so why would scum try to kill him over PRs?

 

[CzarTim]

Oreo, are you protected from night actions when you purge or something?

 

[SalvaPot]

Running through scenario:

A) Scum-Launch / Town-Ty: Launch trying to get us to mislynch? Maybe I was right and he is a lynch bomb.

B) Scum-Launch / Scum-Ty: Launch knows he's a goner here so tries to clear a buddy on the way out.

C) Town-Launch / Scum-Ty: Launch caught scum red-handed.

D) Town-Launch / Town-Ty: Scum tried to kill Ty last night or something else happened to the kill?

My problem with D is Ty claimed ordinary so why would scum try to kill him over PRs?

Don't forget he claims he didn't block camjo, so that means we actually also have a roleblocker.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Sorry for that, don't feel bad, its just a game and I am honestly not heated up, to be honest I find it kind of hilarious and worthy of the very best/worst gambits of mafia, but right now I have to rip through it because, dude, what where you expecting.

First of all, I appreciate this post. I'll keep my chin up.

Sure, but do you honestly believe your power play on day 1 did more good than harm? If you had to made a roleclaim, why make it such it fucks over town far more than scum?

You are claiming this early because you want to earn back the goodwill you destroyed when running all of that stuff before. We could have easily lynch you on day 1 with that claim you did, since you where pretty much useless by that point for town. There is so many other ways you could have sticked around.

Also, what do you have to show for it? Ty4on?

If you look at the playing field of what PRs are left, I don't think that gambit affected much. It was contained as much as was possible. Also, there's no evidence it didn't fuck over scum. They've already figured I wasn't the lost partner nor a neutral; they could have killed me already, but they had their own doubts about whether my ability happened or not.

No, I'm claiming this early because it'll take you guys a minute to realize I'm telling the truth. If I do it late in the phase, with the trajectory we have, you'll lynch me for naught. \

Also, no, I don't know that my block was definitely the one that stopped the killer. It could have been Ty4on, the person that targeted him, or someone else that was roleblocked.

Dude
Your "role claim" is cut-and-paste from PW when a scum TheGoddamn claimed town watcher/tracker
Let's run through the list
bread crumbs that are intentionally easy to miss: check
night actions that perfectly correlate with the narrative so far: check
absolutely no concrete proof that you've done anything you say: check

For fuck's sake, anyone can easily breadcrumb anything they want to. It's not really difficult to do, honestly.

Xam, you're going to regret everything. lol

The sad part here is that I actually believe you're town.

If I wanted a perfect story to correlate with the narrative, I would have said I jailed Camjo. Care to guess why I didn't?

Spoiler

because it's the truth

Someone else blocked Camjo, and I think I know who, so we'll at least have one useful role left over after I'm gone.

 

[CzarTim]

Launch do you think Ty is scum or not?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Launch do you think Ty is scum or not?

I'm not sure, but it's a good place to start looking

 

[CzarTim]

I'm not sure, but it's a good place to start looking

Ok, so like if you had an override who would you use it on, if you had to use it right now?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Ok, so like if you had an override who would you use it on, if you had to use it right now?

lol

I wouldn't use it on Ty4on, no. I'm not that sure. I'm not that sure about anyone

 

[CzarTim]

lol

I wouldn't use it on Ty4on, no. I'm not that sure. I'm not that sure about anyone

The issue here is that you have now full claimed and if you are telling the truth, we have absolutely nothing. You thought Ty was scum yesterday, blocked him, but are now hedging as if you know he'll flip town and you'll look bad when it happens. That's actually what is making me most suspicious. It doesn't seem like you claimed for any other reason than to save yourself, and that is what scum does.

What are we supposed to do now? Go down a completely different path and ignore all this?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

The issue here is that you have now full claimed and if you are telling the truth, we have absolutely nothing. You thought Ty was scum yesterday, blocked him, but are now hedging as if you know he'll flip town and you'll look bad when it happens. That's actually what is making me most suspicious. It doesn't seem like you claimed for any other reason than to save yourself, and that is what scum does.

What are we supposed to do now? Go down a completely different path and ignore all this?

Actually, I was intending to protect him because I didn't have a solid lead on anything else. The fact that there was no kill tells me something may have happened. I only called him suspicious to turn discussion on the actions surrounding him. I don't really want him lynched.

 

[SalvaPot]

lol

I wouldn't use it on Ty4on, no. I'm not that sure. I'm not that sure about anyone

I mean, if I was a jailor and no one died after I blocked him, I'll be EXTREMELY ADAMANT about it. Just look at how nin was acting when he believed he had a ping.

 

[CzarTim]

Actually, I was intending to protect him because I didn't have a solid lead on anything else. The fact that there was no kill tells me something may have happened. I only called him suspicious to turn discussion on the actions surrounding him. I don't really want him lynched.

....

There was a claimed PR at your table.

Ty was claimed ordinary. Why would scum kill him?

Vote: LaunchpadMcQ

 

[CzarTim]

Funny you should mention BSP. I have a theory about her that is contingent on Cam's flip.

I'll be honest, I'm kind if wary of voting BSP. I have reason to believe she's the roleblocker, but it's mostly unfounded

What is the correlation here?

 

[Ourobolus]

Oreo, are you protected from night actions when you purge or something?

Nope.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I mean, if I was a jailor and no one died after I blocked him, I'll be EXTREMELY ADAMANT about it. Just look at how nin was acting when he believed he had a ping.

....

There was a claimed PR at your table.

Ty was claimed ordinary. Why would scum kill him?

Vote: LaunchpadMcQ

Terra? I thought about that, but it would make it look like the roleblocker was scum when he gets a roleblock messaged.

I was town-reading Ty4on when I chose him.

What is the correlation here?

If the RB has the same table restriction as me, then the RB has to be between BSP, Time, and Fireblend

 

[CzarTim]

Terra? I thought about that, but it would make it look like the roleblocker was scum when he gets a roleblock messaged.

I was town-reading Ty4on when I chose him.



If the RB has the same table restriction as me, then the RB has to be between BSP, Time, and Fireblend

Well, in case you guys turbo, I would look at AB or Ty4on next phase. AB, I've said what I needed to about that, especially if Camjo is not an arso. Ty4on, I'm not sure. Lots of coasting there and I can't get a solid read on him. Maybe it's the mask.

?

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

So first I was "useless and borderline hindrance to town", now "I'm claimed PR who should've been protected/blocked"

Not saying launch isn't full of it, but using me as reasons why he is isn't exactly the strongest of arguments.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

?

That was a breadcrumb in case I died to look at him.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

That read wasn't even serious, come on lol I talked about his avatar

 

[CzarTim]

How would your death implicate him?