ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
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What OS should i go for since Windows 7 is comin soon?
Windows 7?ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:What OS should i go for since Windows 7 is comin soon?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:What OS should i go for since Windows 7 is comin soon?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
So thats pretty much it, any changes or whatever, moneys not really a huge issue, postage might be a bitch :lol
brain_stew said:Use W7 RC for free for the time being. Silly paying for a MS OS that isn't W7 at this time. If you already have a copy of Windows to slap on it, fair enough, use that.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
So thats pretty much it, any changes or whatever, moneys not really a huge issue, postage might be a bitch :lol
pseudocaesar said:Can you explain to me how that works? I have a copy of XP I can transfer across, so should I do that to get it running, and then install Win 7 over it on my new pc? How about when the time comes for full retail release, do I have to pay full money for it or will it be discounted?
pseudocaesar said:Yeh Aus prices suck. Take my MB for example, the 790x ud4, 110 at Newegg, which converts to 136 AUD, yet the cheapest I could find it was at the $170 AUD mark. Or my CPU, the Phenom II X4 Black, 189.99 on Newegg which equals 236 AUD. The cheapest I seen it for was $260 AUD, with most sitting at the $290 mark. We pay out of our asses for parts lol.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:So thats pretty much it, any changes or whatever, moneys not really a huge issue, postage might be a bitch :lol
FromTheFuture said:That said, my current monitor is a 19" 1440x900 res monitor. Is it possible to force a higher resolution, say, 1680x1050? Sorry if this is a noobish question, i just really need to know. I read around on Google, and read somewhere that it might be possible through the graphics card? I just thought i would ask to be sure.
Mareg said:Alright, I'm assuming this is in Canadian funds... if not its even worst.
Basically, your getting totally ripped off.
Our VAT equivalent is GST and it's usually included. You can see "All prices include GST" on the bottom right hand corner of pccasegear.com.brain_stew said:Do Aus prices not include sales tax/VAT in with the price though (US prices don't)? The US always pays less for parts what with it being the biggest single market and all, the Aus prices seem pretty in line with UK prices and that's with our currency being at a historically quite low value.
Read the thread?Mareg said:Alright, I'm assuming this is in Canadian funds... if not its even worst.
Basically, your getting totally ripped off
brain_stew said:Do Aus prices not include sales tax/VAT in with the price though (US prices don't)? The US always pays less for parts what with it being the biggest single market and all, the Aus prices seem pretty in line with UK prices and that's with our currency being at a historically quite low value.
Damn, thanks. I'll have to rethink everything now :\Mareg said:Pretty sure you can't force higher resolutions then native on LCD screens.
FromTheFuture said:Hey brain_stew, great thread. You're making me rethink my entire purchase. Either way, i had a quick question. I was thinking about holding off a new monitor purchase as i thought i dont entirely NEED it, and would rather upgrade at another time instead.
That said, my current monitor is a 19" 1440x900 res monitor. Is it possible to force a higher resolution, say, 1680x1050? Sorry if this is a noobish question, i just really need to know. I read around on Google, and read somewhere that it might be possible through the graphics card? I just thought i would ask to be sure.
If you don't know, i guess i'll ask somewhere else. Thanks a lot, and good job on the thread!
edit. Oh and another quick question... I was going to get a Phenom II x3 720 BE and DDR3-1600 RAM with an HD4850, but you recommended an X2 550 BE with DRR2-800. Would it be smarter to go with the X2?
Well cheaper will definitely be better for me, that's why I'm wondering if the X3 is exactly necessary, or if it will be fine if i downgrade to the X2. Also, the DDR3-1600 and X3 was recommended to me by you :lol. It was in the 'I need a new PC 2009' thread, but you probably wouldn't remember individual cases.brain_stew said:If you can afford the X3 go for it, especially if you want to look into overclocking. Why the super expensive RAM? Generally going with DDR2 RAM is much cheaper and offers basically the same performance but if you're in the US this combo makes the DDR3 platform worth it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.205337
But either way, no need to get top of the line DDR3, you won't notice the difference. Just get this pack:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180
Performance will be identical compared to the expensive stuff you were going to buy.
On the GPU side, you'd be well served by bumping up to a 4870 1GB for $140, its well worth it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150394
or a GTX 260 if you don't mind rebates:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143140
What exactly are you asking with regards to the monitor? If you managed to force a higher resolution you'd be scrolling around to see all of your desktop. Regardless the leap from a 19" 1440x900 monitor to a 23" 1080p monitor is huge and for less than $200 I highly recommend it. Make sure you get one of the faster graphics cards (that $140 4870 1GB is a steal) if you do make the switch.
Are you talking about ingame? You can use a technique called supersampling to render games at a higher than native resolution than your panel, and they'll be downscaled for super IQ but this is a hge resource hog and only really useful in old games and can only be forced with Nvidia cards afaik.
I'd have used that mobo/CPU/RAM combo in the $500 rig but I just couldn't get it to come in on budget so I went the X2 550 route, its a great deal if you can stretch to it.
FromTheFuture said:Well cheaper will definitely be better for me, that's why I'm wondering if the X3 is exactly necessary, or if it will be fine if i downgrade to the X2. Also, the DDR3-1600 and X3 was recommended to me by you :lol. It was in the 'I need a new PC 2009' thread, but you probably wouldn't remember individual cases.
Also i was talking about out-of-game but yeah i guess that isn't going to work out.
I bought all my parts from America, off Newegg just recently with the help of a reshipping company called PriceUSA. Although shipping was a bitch, it costed me ALOT less than I would've paid otherwiseItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:Aus dollars, we gets teh raped on everything
Anyways ordered and payed for the DVD drive showed up as $0.00 when i ordered, tried refreshing and re-ordering still $0, see what they will do. $2540 all up with postage n GST n all that crap.
Yay im getting a new PC! the one im on cost $250 lol.
Thanks for the help as well everybody who helped.
Ah wellItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:Aus dollars, we gets teh raped on everything
Anyways ordered and payed for the DVD drive showed up as $0.00 when i ordered, tried refreshing and re-ordering still $0, see what they will do. $2540 all up with postage n GST n all that crap.
Yay im getting a new PC! the one im on cost $250 lol.
Thanks for the help as well everybody who helped.
FromTheFuture said:Oh I think i remember what it was... There was the X3 720 and an Asus mobo as a combo deal and the mobo only allowed for DDR3. Or atleast i think that is what it was. I don't exactly remember which one it was, I'm not at my PC although it should still be in the PC thread.
Oh, here's the CPU/mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.205337
Either way, I'd be using the PC for gaming, Photoshop sessions, perhaps video and music editing but nothing too major, or atleast i think so. It's just difficult to gauge the performance of each CPU relative to one another so it's kind of hard for me to choose.
Petrie said:Looking for a little advice. I built my first rig back in November with a combination of Gaf/CAG assistance. Using the following parts:
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04 - OEM
CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX - Retail
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EACS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
EVGA 01G-P3-N959-TR GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
I use this primarily as a media center, and for occasionally gaming (until Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3, though I have become a bit more interested in PC gaming, especially seeing the slick media centers in the other thread, having all my games in one place is very appealing I must say).
Anyways, my question is based on current pricing, are there any particular upgrades one would recommend I make in this current market? I'm not all that upset I can't run Crysis at high settings (it runs, but like crap). If there's any budget upgrades I could make to increase performance, I figured now would be the time to ask while things remain cheap. Or perhaps I'm set for what I'm looking for at the moment? I don't keep up too well on the PC scene, mostly because GAF is my primary source of gaming information nowadays, and there isn't much of a PC community here.
Yoboman said:Anyway, I noticed a lot of Aussies in this thread, so I'm glad I posted that. Anyone else who has looked at Aussie prices and balked. I've gone to upgrade so many times and just walked away unsatisfied with the build I was making for my budget or the price I'd have to pay for what I wanted. I'm glad I ran into the site, it saved me almost a good grand
I haven't looked into UK much, I know Aussies can import similarly from the UK. I don't know about UK GAF'ers importing stuff to be totally honest. I'm sure such sites exist.brain_stew said:What the situation with customs/import duty? No way you'd be able to get an order like that past UK customs, and they'd slap a huge charge on top, so it just wouldn't be worth it over here.
brain_stew said:For $160, you'll have made one serious upgrade, performance accross the board (and particularly in games) will be way up. You'd be totally ready to play both Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at max/high settings with those small adjustments.
I'm sure there would be problems ordering a whole build from there, but it looks awesome for smaller shipments. I've been thinking about getting a Q9550 and this looks like a good way to save a bit of money. Thanks for the link.Yoboman said:I bought all my parts from America, off Newegg just recently with the help of a reshipping company called PriceUSA. Although shipping was a bitch, it costed me ALOT less than I would've paid otherwise
Petrie said:Do you think I'd be better served waiting it out until closer to those titles, considering that in reality those are the 2 games that will see most of my playtime? Otherwise it's TF2 and a few other games of that nature.
I saved a lot of money, I'll probably use them for other purchases in the future as well. Though, yeah, you'll run into fees, you may run into custom fees as well but even then you're saving moneyFredescu said:I'm sure there would be problems ordering a whole build from there, but it looks awesome for smaller shipments. I've been thinking about getting a Q9550 and this looks like a good way to save a bit of money. Thanks for the link.
Yoboman said:Just maybe something to consider before you bludgeon your credit card with Aussie prices
cleveridea said:Does anyone have a good build for RPG's like oblivion, The Witcher and Drakensang.
I was planning on a X4 phenom oc to 3.2 to 3.8 GHz with an ATI HD 4890, but I dont like some of the CPU benchmarks in particular the less well known titles like witcher/drakensang
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,6...enu=browser&image_id=868653&article_id=654228
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,658399/PCGH-Tuning-The-Witcher-Enhanced-Edition/Practice/
If you're buying a new PC, get a Phenom II. Those benchmarks are for the original Phenom, which is pretty crap. The Phenom II in the OP will be plenty capable for The Witcher (and Crysis, for that matter), especially if you overclock it.cleveridea said:Does anyone have a good build for RPG's like oblivion, The Witcher and Drakensang.
I was planning on a X4 phenom oc to 3.2 to 3.8 GHz with an ATI HD 4890, but I dont like some of the CPU benchmarks in particular the less well known titles like witcher/drakensang
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,6...enu=browser&image_id=868653&article_id=654228
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,658399/PCGH-Tuning-The-Witcher-Enhanced-Edition/Practice/
also looks like Witcher prefers nvidia GPU
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3338&p=15
Does anyone have any advice? Would I be better off overclocking an i7 920? The money isnt an issue, though I want decent value. I would also like Crysis at 60fps, but that can wait until a future PC...