brain_stew
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*US config now includes the ASUS custom monster of a GPU*
Talos said:Just a question for the techies - What COMPUTER CPU is the Playstation 3's CELL CPU most equivalent to? I know, I know, apples and oranges, but since the ps3's gpu is an Nvidia 7 series, I'm curious. Brain-stew - camineet - anyone know? Just to have a rough idea of power I suppose, nothing more. Thanks!
8800GTX is still a solid card no worries.rhfb said:So my brother is going to be looking to upgrade his gaming rig at the end of the summer, his current rig (as best I can remember it) is
- AMD 64 4600+, 2gb ram, 8800GTX 768MB, ect, ect.
I'm thinking he is going to basically need to upgrade everything but his harddrive :| Or does the 8800GTX still have enough legs to play for the next two years at semi-high resolutions (not 1080p)? I'm telling him to jump on a 4890 when he does upgrade, but he is trying to keep the price low, and if he has to get a new mobo/cpu/case/ram/card I don't know if he can at the performance he wants (he would also have to get Windows 7)
Using the components in the OP and http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php:Router said:Do we have an ultimate AUSgaf budget rig? I really need to get back into PC gaming... Stupid iMac.
Flying_Phoenix said:What do you mean by "fresh install" with Windows 32 Bit to Windows 64?
Jtyettis said:Alright I got the 4890 for $130 after rebates. Just too good to pass up and a heck of an upgrade for me to say the least.
Means you cannot gracefully update the OS. You need to install from scratch. All programs will have to be re-installed, settings restored, etc...but your data(pictures, music, files etc) will be preserved.Flying_Phoenix said:Anyone?
Cheeto said:Means you cannot gracefully update the OS. You need to install from scratch. All programs will have to be re-installed, settings restored, etc...but your data(pictures, music, files etc) will be preserved.
Fredescu said:Using the components in the OP and http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php:
MBD $129 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_803_808&products_id=11110
CPU $132 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_345&products_id=11556
GPU $195 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_686&products_id=10982
HDD $115 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_268_344&products_id=8806
Case $110 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_733_734&products_id=6754
PSU $145 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_354&products_id=5158 (swapped in a Corsair as they dont have the Antec Basiq)
RAM $79 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_216&products_id=8883
$905 all up. There are cheaper retailers (like MSY, use staticice.com if you want the absolute cheapest price per component) and I haven't adjusted the build for what's cheaper over here. It's a start though. Do you have a specific budget in mind?
Doesn't matter if installed programs are on another drive, there are still many hooks to the OS that won't be carried over if you do a clean install.Flying_Phoenix said:I see. But what if my programs are on my 2nd Hard-Drive?
Also so that means I will have to reinstall my XP OS first or just install my Windows 7 OS?
Yazus said:This thread inspired me to build my first PC, since my Motherboard totally rejected my HD4850 (pc doesnt boot because there isnt enough power for the Video Card and my Mobo isnt compatible with it...)
So I decided to give to my parents this pc (they use a 6 years old Acer lol) and to build a new one.
Tips would be much appriciated:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P Socket:AM3 Chipset:AMD 790X ATX - 120
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition 45nm 3Ghz Socket:AM2+ Cache:8 Mb - 180
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD4850 512MB DDR2 RAM - 0 (I already have this one, its new)
RAM: OCZ DIMM Gold XTC 2GB DDR3 1600Mhz x2 - 70
Case: COOLERMASTER Elite 334 Black + 520W PSU - 55
Case Fan: COOLERMASTER Hyper212 Blue LED Fan 120mm - 7
CPU Fan: ARCTIC-COOLING CPU Freezer 64 LP - 17
DVD-W: SAMSUNG DVD 22x Writer SATA Bulk Version - 20
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Green Power 500 Gb SATA 7200 rpm - 50
Total is: 519.
GAF, am I forgetting something? I am a total newbie when comes to build a PC, and this is the first one. May I forgot something? Also do my components work ok togheter or are there some incompatibilities? I chose a AMD Motherboard, a AMD Processor (sounds like that Mobo only uses X3/X4 CPUs so I wanted to get a X4 Phenom II) and a ATI GPU.
Also are there some cheaper but equivalent components? It may be hard for you to find cheaper components since they may be cheaper for you (US/UK) but the price may be the same (or higher) here. Also promotions does not applies for the same reason.
Router said:Nice. Thanks for that. I'm looking at spending around 700-800
Cheeto said:Doesn't matter if installed programs are on another drive, there are still many hooks to the OS that won't be carried over if you do a clean install.
Depends if you still want XP. You can dual boot 32-bit XP and 64-bit Win7 no problem. No you shouldn't have to re-install XP.
brain_stew said:Your motherboard isn't compatible with your CPU. Its an AM3 only motherboard and you've chosen an AM2+ CPU. If you want to go with a DDR3 build then switch out the CPU for a Phenom ii 945, note that this CPU is more expensive and isn't a black edition so OCing isn't quite as good/easy.
Personally, I'd say just skip the DDR3 board, and get a standard Gigabyte 790x board for a good wedge cheaper, this'll allow you to use the same 940 Phenom as well as cheap 800mhz/1066mhz DDR2 RAM, meaning you can probably get 4 gigs for the price you're paying for 2 gigs.
2GB of RAM doesn't cut it these days. Go with 4GB the price premium realy isn't too large at all. Again I always recommend 640GB and 1TB drives as they're the snappiest around, WD Caviar Black or Samsung F1s are both great.
Yazus said:Thank you kindly brain stew. You helped a lot. This is what I came up with:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4 Socket: AM2+ Chipset: AMD 790X ATX - 99
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition 3Ghz Socket:AM2+ 8MB Chache - 185
RAM: KINGSTON 2GB DDR2 800 Mhz (I'm buying two units of this) - 25 x2 = 50
Case: COOLERMASTER Elite 334 Black + 520W PSU - 55
Case Fan: COOLERMASTER Hyper212 Blue LED Fan 120mm - 7
CPU Fan: ARCTIC-COOLING CPU Freezer 64 LP - 17
DVD-W: SAMSUNG DVD 22x Writer SATA Bulk Version - 20
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Black 640GB Buffer:32MB 7200RPM - 70
Total: 500
So its around 20 cheaper but it also will work (previous one woudlnt ).
Thanks a lot again brain stew I was falling for a stupid error (AMD 2+/AMD 3 socket).
Also the RAM stuff really helped, 2 Gigs doesnt cut these days indeed, I'm getting two units of Corsair 800Mhz 2GB then. Also reducing the Mobo cost/Ram cost helped me to get a bigger/better HDD.
I'm also asking: are the CPU Cooler/Case Fan really helpful/necessary?
Ryu said:When is the next line of videocards slated to be released? I plan to piece together the system over a couple of months (leaving the mobo/CPU/ram/GPU for last) around August - October, but I don't want to be ambushed by a whole new line of GPU's the following month. I know the top of the line now will last for quite awhile, but I'm still curious.
brain_stew said:Try and get a single 2X2GB pack of RAM if you can, you can run 4 sticks fine but it can put more stress on your northbridge and sometimes limit OCing. I use 4 sticks myself (6 gigs, here ) and it works fine, but since its a new build you might as well leave yourself with the option of a future upgrade to 8GB. Ofcourse if that RAM is just a single 2GB stick then you can disregard this.
Yeah, I'd keep the fans, stock HSF can often be noisy, and heat can shorten the length of your components so its all good. Plus, it gives you the option of looking into OCing later on. Sure, its not as if your CPU needs it yet, but a free future upgrade for a small amount of time tweaking is a nice option to have. Oh, and if your local retailer stocks Yate Loon fans then use that instead of the 120mm coolermaster fan you specified, they're whisper quiet.
Looking good on the whole though.
brain_stew said:Done and under budget to boot! :
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6949
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11557
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11863
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8693
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11110
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6553
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11487
I'll be adding something very similar to the op now.
Actually, I'd recommend going with this case instead:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11746
Router said::lol
Damn, I had forgotten all about pccasegear... that's how long I have been out of the scene. Ok, so I am totally building a new rig! Now do I wait for windows 7 and build one around then or go for it now?
Yazus said:RAM replaced with CORSAIR - Dimm XMS2 4 Gb (2x2Gb) ddr2 800 Mhz CL5, at the same price (50) so in the whole its just an easier pack.
Looking good, I'm very exited for this, thanks brain stew! Also I heard my CPU (Phenom II x4 940 Black Edition) is very good for OCing, thats why I'm getting the fans etc.
Minsc said:If you already own a OS, make sure to take advantage of the pre-order of Win 7 for $50 going on for one more week. Then you could put the Win 7 RC on the machine in meantime (if all the drivers you need are out) and upgrade in October, with your copy arriving for free (since it's already paid for).
pseudocaesar said:Ok so here's my high end (I think at least) rig.
MB: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4
CPU: Phenom II X4 940 Black
Ram: 2x2 GB 1066 DDR2
GPU: Gigabyte HD4870 1GB
HDD: WD Caviar 640GB black
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster v8
Now, with the case, it will either be an Antec 300, with an Antec Earthwatts 650W (which will be around $240 AUD. Will I need that much power? I wouldn't mind the CoolerMaster Centurion 5 with 460W PSU, at half the price. Will 460W be enough? Failing that I could do the CM Gladiator 600 with 500W PSU, but its kind of ugly. Is it worth spending the extra money on the Antec gear (I love the Three Hundred case).
Cheeto said:Doesn't matter if installed programs are on another drive, there are still many hooks to the OS that won't be carried over if you do a clean install.
Depends if you still want XP. You can dual boot 32-bit XP and 64-bit Win7 no problem. No you shouldn't have to re-install XP.
Are those OCZ PSUs pretty solid then? They tend to have really good prices on Newegg, but I haven't seen them recommended too often around here.brain_stew said:Is this from that Aus site? 460w is fine in theory but the PSU included with the Centurion 5 isn't the "best" 460w PSU. The 500w should be fine, though personally I'd say buy separate parts, on a budget, this PSU is a good pick:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=10872
Though that you can get more headroom and a modular design (makes cable management so much easier) for a little more makes this a great buy:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=11225
That way you can choose your own case and still have a really good PSU.
rohlfinator said:Are those OCZ PSUs pretty solid then? They tend to have really good prices on Newegg, but I haven't seen them recommended too often around here.
Ah, that's good to hear. I'll probably go with one of those once I start building my new rig. They seem to be really good bargains if you catch a sale, especially for modular PSUs.vertopci said:Most of OCZ's products are pretty solid, with the exception of the keyboards which are hit or miss with everyone.
Registry keys, dlls, dependencies, etcdark_preacher said:many programs will still run with no issue. by 'hooks' i assume you mean registry keys, which most programs don't even require to run.
rohlfinator said:Are those OCZ PSUs pretty solid then? They tend to have really good prices on Newegg, but I haven't seen them recommended too often around here.
Make sure it's the 900-2, they added some stuff (better cable management mainly).Yazus said:What do you guys think about the ANTEC Case Gamer Nine-Hundred Middle Tower ATX and about the THERMALTAKE Thunderblade 120mm LED Multicolor?
I'm thinking about replacing the Coolermaster 331 w Power Supply with this one and a Coolermaster 500W PSU
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:Hrmmm can someone maybe give me a fairly awesome rig 1500-2000 Aus dollars from this site http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php , never done the custom thing before but should be easy enough if im on the right track. Thanks.
Fredescu said:CPU: i7 920 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346&products_id=8485
MBD: Asus P6T http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_775&products_id=8708
RAM: 6GB (for triple channel) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_216&products_id=8584
GPU: 4890 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_800&products_id=11039
Case: Coolermaster 690 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_31_504&products_id=5863
PSU: Corsair HX-620 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_354&products_id=5153
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_268_344&products_id=7890
DVD/RW: Lite-On http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=11487
$1474
Add in cooling for overclocking purposes:
CPU HSF: Noctua NH-U12P http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_769&products_id=8556
Thermal Compound: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5640
$1575
Not sure if you need a monitor in that price, but there are plenty of decent ~$350 24" monitors floating around which should still bring it in under $2k.
If you don't need a monitor, you could upgrade the GPU to a GTX285 or something and still be well within budget, but I think you're better off getting the 4890 to tide you over until the midrange DX11 cards are out.
Fredescu said:Oops. Mine has a video card though