The Friendly Monster said:4/10, you need to learn from Copernicus.
sleeping_dragon said:im not a troll.
Yes, except Firefox on the desktop has become exceedingly slower and slower with each release (I use it on multiple computers with many different specs), and the Android version doesnt have Flash support, which makes it useless. I'm not sure what their issue with that is, but Opera Mobile is superior in every way. I just cant wait to see what Google brings with Chrome for Android.jobber said:Firefox does all that stuff already
sleeping_dragon said:dude just stop it! i know your standard is your iphone 4 but the iphone 4 dont even hold a candle on what my GS2 is doing in the background, all i got with the iphone is that is just icons and of course is gonna move smoother between page cos the icon is static with android and its widgets and background data; its dynamic and of course there is gonna be some stutter but on the Galaxy Nexus is barely noticeable, u make a big deal of a small trivial things while underplay all the major features of ICS, i had the iphone 3gs for 2 years and it lags like shit when i have a few apps open, with my GS2 i can open 10 apps and i cant notice any lag at all. Can the the 4s play wmv, avi, divx, or mkv natively or u have to use handbrake to convert them to mp4?
Just hold off, it's 3-4 weeks away. ICS will be worth it, at Samsung's rate you might have ICS on the GS2 by next summer if the past has anything to do with it. They are just now rolling out Gingerbread to the US Galaxy S line. Put that in your pipe and smoke it :/.Ferrio said:Any idea when they announce carriers/pricing? I'd like to get a new phone asap, but holding off until I can make a decision between Nexus or Galaxy S2?
Where did you find Roboto from? I'd love to change the font on my phone to see what the fuss is all about.The Friendly Monster said:Stuck roboto into my game, looks pretty nice so I think I'll stick with it.
It absolutely needs capitalization but not all caps to look right though for me.
Typography geeks hate it - http://typographica.org/2011/on-typography/roboto-typeface-is-a-four-headed-frankenstein/
The Friendly Monster said:Stuck roboto into my game, looks pretty nice so I think I'll stick with it.
It absolutely needs capitalization but not all caps to look right though for me.
Typography geeks hate it - http://typographica.org/2011/on-typography/roboto-typeface-is-a-four-headed-frankenstein/
To be fair, I havent seen the fonts on a phone, in person, and Google promises that they are built specifically for that medium
Gwanatu T said:Just hold off, it's 3-4 weeks away. ICS will be worth it, at Samsung's rate you might have ICS on the GS2 by next summer if the past has anything to do with it. They are just now rolling out Gingerbread to the US Galaxy S line. Put that in your pipe and smoke it :/.
http://briefmobile.com/download-roboto-font-from-android-4-0Gwanatu T said:Where did you find Roboto from? I'd love to change the font on my phone to see what the fuss is all about.
The Friendly Monster said:Stuck roboto into my game, looks pretty nice so I think I'll stick with it.
It absolutely needs capitalization but not all caps to look right though for me.
Typography geeks hate it - http://typographica.org/2011/on-typography/roboto-typeface-is-a-four-headed-frankenstein/
Jtwo said:So I'm just learning we missed out on the real hangout. :[
Kinda for the better, my connection couldn't have handled it and the conference video anyway. What was up with them being in front of that screen? It looked awful on the videofeed.
Excellent, thank you. I'll change it in a minute!The Friendly Monster said:http://briefmobile.com/download-roboto-font-from-android-4-0
I think their teardown of it is a bit daft, looks fairly consistent to me, just taking the less geometric letters of a Helvetica style font and making them conform, the fact that they look slightly like letters of some completely different typeface shouldn't be surprising. I mean it's nothing like as inconsistent as arial.
The Friendly Monster said:http://briefmobile.com/download-roboto-font-from-android-4-0
I think their teardown of it is a bit daft, looks fairly consistent to me, just taking the less geometric letters of a Helvetica style font and making them conform, the fact that they look slightly like letters of some completely different typeface shouldn't be surprising. I mean it's nothing like as inconsistent as arial.
Horses for courses, I think Roboto is way nicer than Droid Sans, maybe I'm just bored of it though. I'm a big proponent of changing things to make them feel fresh.Zefah said:I agree with one of the comments that Droid Sans looks much better (but still not amazing). I strongly dislike the new font.
This is one of the few issues I do have with Android. Unless you have a Nexus device, you have to wait until the manufacturer releases a software update for your phone. The only other choice you have is to root the phone and flash a new ROM (a custom-built version of Android) on to your device. I prefer to do that, but I'm also a tech geek that likes to fiddle. For the 90% of the other noobs out there, there is no other option, unfortunately, and the consortium that was formed earlier this year was supposed to remedy this by making manufacturers pledge to put updates out weeks after Google updates Android rather than months like has been done in the past.Ferrio said:So.. you have to wait till the manufacturer releases the OS? I was always under the assumption it was something you could just on the damn phone yourself. Either way I'd hate to wait 4 weeks then find out that this phone isn't available at AT&T subsidized.
Gwanatu T said:... They are just now rolling out Gingerbread to the US Galaxy S line. ...
Is that your post or theirs?Copernicus said:Typographers hating typography.
I need to join some typography forums, that has got be super entertaining.
I'm imagining posts like this:
"Look at that serif, are you fucking insane? It's way to wide for that stem, and don't even get me started on the dimensions of the inner O's, Let me ask you something, did your mother huff paint while she was pregnant, or did she just kern her legs a little too much with a crackhead?"
The Friendly Monster said:Is that your post or theirs?
Just in time for Halloween, from the depths of the Android 4.0 laboratory emerges a frightening cross-breed creature called Roboto.
jayb said:they are? my wife has a t-mo vibrant. link please.
DAT ASSBattersea Power Station said:https://plus.google.com/111962077049890418486/posts/QgxoPi5d55u
Verizon version? Doesn't look too thick
Battersea Power Station said:https://plus.google.com/111962077049890418486/posts/QgxoPi5d55u
Verizon version? Doesn't look too thick
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Heres the thinking with the open terminals on the e and g. It has been the hard and fast rule for sans serif types that the a, c, e, g and s must agree as to their angle of exit. Interestingly, this is not the case for serif types, and certainly isnt true for any kind of handwriting. It is common for the lower case e to be more open than the a for example. If there is a single story g it will often remain open, or even curve back the other way (up until it forms a two story g).
As I experimented with this thinking I realized a couple of things:
1 / I have always hated the way Helvetica and all of her acolytes close the terminal on the g. It is just so awkward. You cant do it with a pen; the terminal always wants to end somewhere other than straight up (note that this is not true of s or a). Its like a t or f that hooks all the way around. Its just gross. Its even worse with the geometric bowl on top. You get such an awkward double curve. I equally hate any calligraphic g that closes with a ball terminal. (Im looking at you, Georgia italic!)
2 / I discovered that the type with a closed a and s and an open e and g has a really beautiful texture across longer blocks of text. The rhythm has this kind of a swirl that is actually really nice to read. You are correct that Fudge and Marshmallow may initially disrupt some expectations, but over the course of actually using the font, you forget that e is decreed to be closed like a (it doesnt want to be anyway and g needs a friend). Despite the PR speak, the variation in exit vectors does make for a more cheerful type.
As for the other two monster heads, Im ignoring the part about the straight sided caps, since I dont find it a problem that the lower case arent equally straight sided. Also, I find your disagreement with the K hardly worthy of justifying another head; possibly a finger or toe. Now, how to respond to all of the silly hipsters that think any grotesk is an Arialesque affront to Helvetica
Note that there are still some bugs in the font that has been extracted from the SDK. Many of these have been corrected already, and you can expect to see some fixes to minor kerning issues and some diacritical misalignments. Also, since Android doesnt use much of the nastiness that is TrueType hinting, Roboto is not hinted to support older Windows browsers, for example.
Gwanatu T said:This is one of the few issues I do have with Android. Unless you have a Nexus device, you have to wait until the manufacturer releases a software update for your phone. The only other choice you have is to root the phone and flash a new ROM (a custom-built version of Android) on to your device. I prefer to do that, but I'm also a tech geek that likes to fiddle. For the 90% of the other noobs out there, there is no other option, unfortunately, and the consortium that was formed earlier this year was supposed to remedy this by making manufacturers pledge to put updates out weeks after Google updates Android rather than months like has been done in the past.
Akkad said:Why won't Google get other phone manufacturers to make other versions of the Nexus?
The Friendly Monster said:Stuck roboto into my game, looks pretty nice so I think I'll stick with it.
It absolutely needs capitalization but not all caps to look right though for me.
Typography geeks hate it - http://typographica.org/2011/on-typography/roboto-typeface-is-a-four-headed-frankenstein/
Akkad said:Why won't Google get other phone manufacturers to make other versions of the Nexus?
Jtwo said:That 4g logo is fucking ugly. The way to rub those off is with sugar cubes, right? You tape around it and then rub sugar cubes on the branding until it goes away. Anyone done that?
Zombie James said:
Thank you.
edit: Really wish there was an option to make the icons smaller. Not finding anything like that in the emulator.
Jtwo said:Yeah, the interview with Matias specifically points out an RGB notification light beneath the screen. Just like all the rumors.
But I don't see it anywhere else.
Ok watching the hands on at TIMN, and Vlad points out the LED> He says its hidden.
SWEET!SimleuqiR said:
This is going to be the greatest phone ever.rabhw said:I remember seeing the notification LED glowing in a video, but I can't remember where now. It looked beautiful, it's hidden under the black bezel at the bottom, and it glows "through" it. It looks really nice and soft and natural.
rabhw said:I remember seeing the notification LED glowing in a video, but I can't remember where now. It looked beautiful, it's hidden under the black bezel at the bottom, and it glows "through" it. It looks really nice and soft and natural.