Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement
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vpance
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ChorizoPicozo
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I can see the amazingly retarded Greg Miller making a joke at one of many industry events... oh wait... he basically did, and everyone cheered... 
. Makes you think the ideological composition of the AAA corporate western industry
. Makes you think the ideological composition of the AAA corporate western industry
ShadyAcshuns
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So MS has put out a statement but not Sony? Very interesting...
Ryu_Joestar
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Consequence Culture is a very fitting term, everyone on the internet thinks they're golden and can say whatever crosses their mind without repercussions but words have consequences, no matter who you are
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Holammer
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Microsoft are professionals. Firing people is just business for them.
Rest of the games industry are smaller scale and not used to this type of public relations management, fewer employees and they fear internal division if they go too hard.
vpance
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Arrogant Sony is back with a vengeance.
Unknown Soldier
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Sony is also a Japanese company and I don't really know if they know what to do with these Americans because the culture is so different
Neff
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Exactly. If anyone wants to make gross jokes online about murder, they can. Nobody is stopping them. Just don't expect to be able to keep your job if you're stupid and brazen enough not to conceal your identity.
And yet, it seems that there are some who just don't get it. I wonder if they've ever even had a job.
laynelane
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The underlying cause of this behavior, in most cases, seems to be about justifying the murder. I have no vested interest in Kirk, never heard of him until a few days ago, and don't share his beliefs. From what has been reported, he debated and used words to get his points across and for that - someone decided execution was appropriate, people are cheering it and asking 'who's next', and all over the place there are people not so subtly trying to say his beliefs make this all okay. It's all rather disturbing, to say the least
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
So ...
You're saying Sony and the other companies are unprofessional?
Come on now.
And internal division? They should practice their staff to shut the hell up, because the majority of them believes in the same shit.
They just aren't used to consequences for their actions.
And this wasn't pointing to only Sony, all these western cesspool companies are leftist hive mind with their shit propaganda that makes modern games unenjoyable.
Sony has an American department. Within American culture.
That department knows, and should act accordingly.
Sucker punch is American.
They could have been way faster than 30 whatever hours it took them. But it's probably hard to fire someone that has "the right opinions, but needs to be fired for sharing them "
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Lokaum D+
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i find amazing how they are defending free speech now, its just mesmerizing.
Exactly. If anyone wants to make gross jokes online about murder, they can. Nobody is stopping them. Just don't expect to be able to keep your job if you're stupid and brazen enough not to conceal your identity.
And yet, it seems that there are some who just don't get it. I wonder if they've ever even had a job.
Unknown Soldier
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vodka-bull
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Nobody cares about genetic heritage. Everybody with two working braincells knows what kind of people are meant with the term arabs, even though technically they may not be from the arabian peninsula. Could be Druzes, Baloch people, Syrians, Afghans etc, doesn't really matter. It's also not all of them, but the rise in crime rates is inherently connected with the rise of arabian refugees in Europe since 2015 and the Afghan/Syrian war.
Hollywood Hitman
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When the media constantly spews that people are fascists or nazis nonstop, this is what you get. This never would happen to the lemons, the kimmels, the Colberts of the world because they aren't labeled as nazis or fascists, the right is capable of not resorting to violence as part of their disagreements. And when they contently label these people as nazis or fascists, to the point of ad nauseum... Unhinged, mentally disturbed and unstable people take this to the point where they think they gotta eliminate the threat and this is what you get. The left need to tone the rhetoric down, start helping solve problems instead of just point fingers at people saying they're this or that.
What a shame for Charlie, dude was a good guy.. Was he perfect, no... But he was a positive guy that if you watched his vids he debated with his heart and mind. Even people he adamantly disagreed with he'd thank them for the debate, using words not violence is as commendable as it gets.
But that aside if sucker punch fired that pos then I may still get yotei, I hate punishing folks that worked hard on a game and had no part in sick twisted mentality like that.
As much as I dislike pretty much everything the left says and does, I'd never celebrate or wish death on anyone over disagreeing opinions. It takes one hell of a dark, evil, disgusting human to celebrate death in this type of manner.
What a shame for Charlie, dude was a good guy.. Was he perfect, no... But he was a positive guy that if you watched his vids he debated with his heart and mind. Even people he adamantly disagreed with he'd thank them for the debate, using words not violence is as commendable as it gets.
But that aside if sucker punch fired that pos then I may still get yotei, I hate punishing folks that worked hard on a game and had no part in sick twisted mentality like that.
As much as I dislike pretty much everything the left says and does, I'd never celebrate or wish death on anyone over disagreeing opinions. It takes one hell of a dark, evil, disgusting human to celebrate death in this type of manner.
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kpopSuperstar
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The right sucks at mobilizing, we just bicker instead of demanding change.
How the hell hasan and these people are still allowed on twitch is just indicitative of us not caring and letting them run free of all responsibility.
How the hell hasan and these people are still allowed on twitch is just indicitative of us not caring and letting them run free of all responsibility.
digimaster7
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never knew Sony is an indie dev studios…
delirium trigger
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Unknown Soldier
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The right tends to be very sleepy and passive but I think they are going to wake up now...
Twitch has been dodging responsibility for the content on their platform a very long time now, and so has Amazon (their owner). Someone needs to Tweet to Elon about it or something
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Sure. As long as you bring a valid argument.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Leave it to those ladies to really know what guys want! It is crystal clear why so many games suck now.Your answer
CLW
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So no Dems have no valid arguments and belong with the pedos over at reeeeeeeeee
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
You can have all the free speech you want. Just prepare for the consequences of your actions.
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Hollywood Hitman
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Yea, people are fucking stupid.... I have all the right to walk into a restaurant and call every fatty a fat fuck, but they then have every right to kick me out of their restaurant. It really is as simple as that.
Unknown Soldier
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SkeeterPackage
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Do we have a list of people that were fired for being subhuman trash ?
And my god that reset era post, free speech eh? You mean the thing that got Charlie Kirk shot?
And my god that reset era post, free speech eh? You mean the thing that got Charlie Kirk shot?
Unknown Soldier
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Honestly the whole monologue is really good and worth watching
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laynelane
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I was going to post this video because it's really good. He sticks to gaming and the impact devs like Drew (Sucker Punch) have on their companies, co-workers, and audience. I especially liked his point that they have a platform because of their employer and they use that platform to be unprofessional, narcissistic, and amoral - all while believing they won't face any consequences.
He has also wondered how Nintendo feels about a Sony employee using their iconic mascot (Mario) in their 'joke' about assassinations. It's an all-around thought-provoking video and doesn't veer away from gaming into pure politics - which I appreciated. Would very much recommend to anyone with an interest in the topic.
viveks86
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The Wokei Six?
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Moriarty1889
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That picture of weirdos says it all……they can all piss off.Your answer
Topher
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Moriarty1889
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Well said indeed.
ChorizoPicozo
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they don't even know what women want. and that's a fact
Plague Doctor
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Center left here as well more so on economic issues.
I am open to most talk. Except glorifying murder and calling for a climate where political violence is acceptable. That is a dark road in which everyone loses.
I have looked in Charlie Kirk enough now to say I disagree with many of his viiews. But he didn't deserve to be killed in front of his family no where near fucking close. No one does for having a different opinion. People cheering that are fucking ghouls.
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StreetsofBeige
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The problem with wild west politics infiltrating workplaces is a combo of weird ass people to begin with, and companies allowing it. Or worst of all, actually supporting it.
Companies and bosses seem too lax or lazy to get rid of troublesome people, and any wacky employee bringing their home life crisis politics are too brainwashed to know any better.
That's why good companies typically dont hire these kinds of people to start with. But oddly, they are really infested in job roles that have lots of content and plot like teaching, arts, media and stuff like that. And the topics and interactions often involve kids since these kinds of people are child creepers in nature too hoping they can influence their upbringing or take advantage of them in some way.
What larger companies do (at least from my experience) is instill Code of Conduct training courses you got to get through every 6 months. Mandatory. And prove you did it, you even got to pass an easy test at the end. When complete your boss gets a notice it's done. And there's tons of courses too. All business related (illegal activity, using secure connections, dont tell outsiders confidential info etc....) and also general things like verbal abuse, discrimination, respect people's opinions and dont drag the company's name in the mud on social media etc...
The funny thing is I've never seen a module ever involving politics. Thats probably because companies dont think employees are that stupid they have to spoonfeed everyone to not muddy the office talking red vs blue hot topics. But for media companies they sure seem to need it.
The Code of Conduct stuff is done to ensure people get reminded about things to do and not do, but most importantly for liability reasons. As dumb as it sounds, if an employee can pass these courses they cant go back to their boss and say..... "Well, I didnt know I cant talk about my company online. So if youre firing me I'm getting my lawyer". Sure you did buddy, you passed the Code of Conduct module having to do with not goofing around on social media with the company's name and products attached to it. So youre fired and get out.
I dont get a sense gaming companies are the type who do this type of stuff considering what a freak show it is so many of them say dumb shit online. These kinds of companies have really emotional people who the company cant and dont seem to want to control. You'll never see an account manager at a game company saying dumb shit online, ragging on customers, leaking sensitive info or price lists to the public on 4Chan or Reddit. You'll never get hot takes from a finance guy telling the world the budget and COGS of a game made. But a game designer or some person in a creative role there, you never know what weird shit you'll get from their Twitter post.
Companies and bosses seem too lax or lazy to get rid of troublesome people, and any wacky employee bringing their home life crisis politics are too brainwashed to know any better.
That's why good companies typically dont hire these kinds of people to start with. But oddly, they are really infested in job roles that have lots of content and plot like teaching, arts, media and stuff like that. And the topics and interactions often involve kids since these kinds of people are child creepers in nature too hoping they can influence their upbringing or take advantage of them in some way.
What larger companies do (at least from my experience) is instill Code of Conduct training courses you got to get through every 6 months. Mandatory. And prove you did it, you even got to pass an easy test at the end. When complete your boss gets a notice it's done. And there's tons of courses too. All business related (illegal activity, using secure connections, dont tell outsiders confidential info etc....) and also general things like verbal abuse, discrimination, respect people's opinions and dont drag the company's name in the mud on social media etc...
The funny thing is I've never seen a module ever involving politics. Thats probably because companies dont think employees are that stupid they have to spoonfeed everyone to not muddy the office talking red vs blue hot topics. But for media companies they sure seem to need it.
The Code of Conduct stuff is done to ensure people get reminded about things to do and not do, but most importantly for liability reasons. As dumb as it sounds, if an employee can pass these courses they cant go back to their boss and say..... "Well, I didnt know I cant talk about my company online. So if youre firing me I'm getting my lawyer". Sure you did buddy, you passed the Code of Conduct module having to do with not goofing around on social media with the company's name and products attached to it. So youre fired and get out.
I dont get a sense gaming companies are the type who do this type of stuff considering what a freak show it is so many of them say dumb shit online. These kinds of companies have really emotional people who the company cant and dont seem to want to control. You'll never see an account manager at a game company saying dumb shit online, ragging on customers, leaking sensitive info or price lists to the public on 4Chan or Reddit. You'll never get hot takes from a finance guy telling the world the budget and COGS of a game made. But a game designer or some person in a creative role there, you never know what weird shit you'll get from their Twitter post.
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Topher
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WellSheet
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My useless two pence:
It's funny how those who rallied and jeered for the canceling, de platforming and ostracism of those on the right are now getting a small taste of their own medicine. Boy, they don't like it.
If we live in a society where a man like Charlie is considered radical; radical enough that it's safe for people in prominent professional positions in the gaming or entertainment sphere to feel so safe and comfortable celebrating it, then those companies certainly need to realign their company cultures. Regardless of politics.
RIP Mr. Kirk.
It's funny how those who rallied and jeered for the canceling, de platforming and ostracism of those on the right are now getting a small taste of their own medicine. Boy, they don't like it.
If we live in a society where a man like Charlie is considered radical; radical enough that it's safe for people in prominent professional positions in the gaming or entertainment sphere to feel so safe and comfortable celebrating it, then those companies certainly need to realign their company cultures. Regardless of politics.
RIP Mr. Kirk.
laynelane
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Yeah, that's a good point. Sony isn't making any announcements, but they have taken action. Still, both would be nice and considering people are making their decisions to buy the upcoming GoY right now (reflective of these events) - it would behoove Sucker Punch and Sony to make a public statement denouncing the support of violence by their current and former employee(s).
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Angry_Megalodon
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Actually, it would be pretty epic if Yotei did something meta like Matrix Resurrections and Atsu represented an unfairly fired Sucker Punch employee who takes revenge on Hermen and co. Jim Ryan as secret boss and Mr. Shu as the wolf.
I have mentioned a few times that there's a massive problem at the hiring process. These lunatics hold managerial positions and they cross check the personal profiles of the people they hire. The possibility that they accept one single dev who doesn't align 100% with their political views is zero. I mean, this crazy girl at SP was "punching nazis". I'm not believing for a second that she would hire anyone "neutral", let alone conservative. So, in the last years every western studio dismissed the old guard (the non-crazies) and replaced them with these assholes. This is a filter worse than DEI, because it impacts the whole staff, not a minority of filler employees.
The chances of getting good creators when you reduce the talent pool by 50% is very low. These ideologies are the talent-killer and they have destroyed the entertainment industry from a creative point of view.
ChorizoPicozo
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Yes, the statement is equally important, if not more. I wonder if PlayStation/Sony Japan is getting involved in this clusterfuck behind the scenes. I also think GoY's PR is permanently damaged too.
ChorizoPicozo
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one can argue given the performance of western entertainment that financially too.
StreetsofBeige
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It's a crazy thing because when I think of hiring process, it's all about finding good people with a combo of: good resume to start with, good track record, skills, friendly personality who can effectively answer questions, and of course within the salary budget. Pretty traditional way of screening candidates.
You'd think political views during the hiring process wouldnt ever be a thing. It'd be taboo to even bring up unless it's a job that actually involves politics like someone wants to work at city hall for the mayor.
UltimaKilo
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I don't know why this is, but he is 100% spot on. It's sad we don't have proper parenting anymore; people have raised ignorant monsters.
Also, I will be doing all my game purchasing on Microsoft consoles from now on and will not be purchasing any Sony titles on PC either.
Maybe with less woke morons at Microsoft studios, they will finally start outputting some bangers.
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UltimaKilo
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I'm not a big cinema or TV watcher, but I have heard that there has been a snap-back to normalcy after financials have taken such big hits due to the woke crap seeping into film and television. Not sure if that's true or not.
I imagine this could be one of those catalysts that sucks a lot of it out of gaming.
laynelane
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I was looking at the comments of their most recent video for the game - PR is definitely damaged. Lots of people talking about Sucker Punch's support of political violence (it wasn't just Drew) and cancelling their pre-orders or plans to buy the game. There's no doubt that people unaware of current events are going to see those comments which may impact their decision to buy or, at the very least, their hype for the game.
As well, considering how fast Drew was let go, I'd say Sony is definitely involved. Sucker Punch, as a studio, seems to have some issues which makes me doubt they would have moved so quickly or at all to fire 'one of their own'.
Bernardougf
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Its pretty clear wtf happened to western gaming...
Pimpbaa
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Yeah but still a lot of woke people there, Blizzard in particular. Playgound games apparently too. Trying to find non woke western devs is hard.
StreetsofBeige
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Who knows. But a lot of Woke-ish stuff has bombed lately in gaming and hollywood.
It's understandable with the big shift in normalcy the past 12-18 months any company who had worked on products for years got caught in the tailwind snapping back and now has a soon to be failure on its hands. Sunk costs and no turning back. Just release it, scrape up some money and move on.
What will be interesting is if media/gaming companies keep it going for the next wave of products that start developing now for release in 2030. If over the years, all these ultra left products and employees keep coming out it'll show nothing has changed. But if they thin out more and more as every year passes then it show companies are changing. They just need time to get past any existing WIP products and fire any off-kilter employees, if their new goal is to get back to normalcy. And that can take years.
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Bernardougf
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Imagine the ambient and culture that this kind of people thrives ? This are not low level programmers, its leading positions... people who are not afraid to openly congratulate political/ideological murder dosent walk quietly into a hostile work place... you can be pretty fcking sure.. working at their "dream job" in their "dream place" while being a crazy lunatic extremist tells all we need to know about those studios and the culture they promote internally...
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Bernardougf
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Well they have a golden opportunity to do some real in-house cleaning...if ever was a perfect time for getting the rotten out is now..
Problem is.. I dont think they consider anything "rotten"
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